Flight attendant catches two Southwest Airlines pilots live streaming hidden camera video from a plane's bathroom to the cockpit.

Lucas, I'm not at all surprised that the flight attendants look very unhappy and exhausted while checking in at their hotel. After enduring a 16 hour plus flight, I'm exhausted and all I did was eat, sleep, and watch movies the whole time. Those flight attendants have to be on their feet most of the time working nonstop with minimal breaks.

They have to constantly deal with working in extremely high altitudes, variations in cabin air pressure, cross different time zones, disruptions in their sleeping cycle etc. It's a very harsh job. Yes they get paid a lot and they get to stay in nice hotels and see the world but it's still not worth it. Originally Posted by VeryClean

LOL. You're extremely naïve in a very odd way to me. I'll leave it at that just to be nice if you are not smart enough to figure out what I was referring to what those ladies have to deal with when it comes to the men in their countries. You have made it clear that you don't understand TTH's post and you don't understand mine. Let's just leave the topic alone and move along.

Edit: Geez, I read your post below and you make no fucking sense to me. You are like that challenged kid in those "Bad Santa" movies. Okay, Middle Eastern men treat women like Queens. Does that work for you in your bozo world that will never exist with that culture? Happy now?

I admit, I never read much of your posts. You're way too long winded and illogical to me to waste my time doing so.

LOL. You're extremely naïve in a very odd way to me. I'll leave it at that just to be nice if you are not smart enough to figure out what I was referring to what those ladies have to deal with when it comes to the men in their countries. You have made it clear that you don't understand TTH's post and you don't understand mine. Let's just leave the topic alone and move along... I'm not going to waste my time explaining to you how men treat and view women over there. You can google that shit on your own because you obviously don't know much about it and I'm not your fucking Middle East history teacher. Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

I'm not asking you to "waste your time" explaining anything to me. I do understand what you're referring to but I disagree with it. I think you're the one being naive here, Lucas. Or perhaps prejudiced is a better word.

Sure, Emirates is a middle eastern airline but it's also an international airline. One of the largest & most awarded international airlines in the world. Emirates flight attendants are from all over the world and Emirates passengers are from all over the world too. In fact, most Emirates flight attendants & most Emirates passengers are not even middle eastern. So I disagree with your blanket generalization that Emirates flight attendants are unhappy because they're being sexually harassed by middle eastern male passengers. Again, most Emirates passengers are not even middle eastern. So your whole point of middle eastern men treating women badly and that's why flight attendants are unhappy goes out the window.

I'm sure that if flight attendants from such a huge & well known international airline were being routinely sexually harassed, we would hear more about it in the news. There would be more lawsuits as well. Sexual harassment towards any flight attendant is simply not tolerated. After all, it's a plane, not a strip club. Anyway, I doubt either of us can make the other change his views so like you wrote, let's move on. I respect your views on too many of your other posts to argue with you on this one.

LOL. You're extremely naïve in a very odd way to me. I'll leave it at that just to be nice if you are not smart enough to figure out what I was referring to what those ladies have to deal with when it comes to the men in their countries. You have made it clear that you don't understand TTH's post and you don't understand mine. Let's just leave the topic alone and move along.

Edit: Geez, I read your post below and you make no fucking sense to me. You are like that challenged kid in those "Bad Santa" movies. Okay, Middle Eastern men treat their women like Queens. Does that work in your fairy tale world that does not even exist? Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

Your argument makes no fucking sense to me too. Unlike you though, I have no desire to insult someone just because they disagree with me.

My point has nothing to do with middle eastern men and how they treat their women. I'm well aware of the fact that in a lot of middle eastern cultures, men don't treat women as equals. I'm certainly no fan of such men because I believe in gender equality and women's rights.

My point is that I don't believe that Emirates flight attendants are being systemically sexually harassed by middle eastern men and that's why they're unhappy.

Let's agree to disagree and move on.

Let's agree to disagree and move on. Originally Posted by VeryClean

Let's just leave the topic alone and move along. Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

You must have a really bad memory. I already suggested the same in what you just quoted me above because our back and forth will not go anywhere

LOL

I already suggested that in a previous post. You must have a really bad memory Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

Sure you did, Lucas. You also wrote that I'm "extremely naive in a very odd way" and that I'm not smart enough to understand what you were referring to.

You insulted me and disrespected me so I felt the need to explain myself before I moved on. I wanted you to know that I understand perfectly what you were referring to and I'm not the naive dumbass that you're portraying me to be. I don't regret that. Instead of accepting that I have a different viewpoint from your own, you then decided to insult me some more. So be it. I feel no negativity towards you so I'm not going to reply to your insults with some of my own.

VC, I post a certain way. I realize it definitely rubs some people the wrong way, but it's just how I post when I express my thoughts. It's never personal so don't take it that way. I am sorry if you thought I was attacking you. That was certainly not my intent. I hope there are no hard feelings. I don't come on this board to offend nice guys like you.

I'm definitely a troll by definition, but I'm not that next extreme level of a troll

VC, I post a certain way. I realize it definitely rubs some people the wrong way, but it's just how I post when I express my thoughts. It's never personal so don't take it that way. I am sorry if you thought I was attacking you. That was certainly not my intent. I hope there are no hard feelings. I don't come on this board to offend nice guys like you.

I'm definitely a troll by definition, but I'm not that next extreme level of a troll Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

No hard feelings and all's forgiven. Thank you for the honest apology. I know you don't necessarily mean everything you write at the heat of the moment, especially the insults. Let's start afresh with a clean slate.

Now folks, VC and I just gave you all a quick adult lesson on how to work things out on this board in a very civil manner. Follow our lead

Can folks here ever have a civilized discussion without it turning into confrontations, arguments, bickering, accusations, and downright non adult behavior?

There are times on here, the way some argue over nothing,

I am reminded of this:

In the 60's I was shuffled around between family,, usually on Braniff, ads in the day were "We'll shake our tail for you". Looking at those stew's was tough on a 15 year old.

I have to respectfully disagree with the victim rhetoric you're pushing here, TTH. First of all, I never mentioned that these flight attendants are all from "third world countries". I said there are flight attendants of all skin colors. That includes plenty of white & nonwhite flight attendants from developed countries in Europe, Australia, Canada, and the USA. People who had plenty of opportunities to pursue becoming a lawyer, doctor, accountant or any other professional field but decided not to do so. Not everyone wants to be a lawyer or a doctor or pursue graduate education. Furthermore, getting recruited into one of these top international airlines is exceedingly difficult and one could argue that it may be easier to become a lawyer or professor than become a Qantas flight attendant.

Most of them decided to become an Emirates or KLM flight attendant because they wanted an exciting jetsetting lifestyle where they get to travel the world and make a lot of money at the same time. Yes, they get paid a lot per year, more than the average annual American salary. Perhaps they tried to get into medical school or law school when they were younger but couldn't get in so decided to pursue a career based on their strongest asset, their looks. Are there some attractive men & women from poor countries who decided to become flight attendants as a way of escaping poverty and because they had limited options? No doubt. However to group all international flight attendants as victims who would rather be doing something else is ridiculous. TTH, perhaps that's not what you meant and if so, please correct me but that's the vibe I received from your post. Originally Posted by VeryClean

Do you know what the percentage of female barristers in in the UK? 13.7%. In Germany women make up roughly just a third of the bar. Only 21.6% of the doctors in Japan are women. There is still a great deal left to do to abolish gender based discrimination in the first world, let alone the Middle East and the undeveloped world. And I would imagine that gender based discrimination goes much further down the occupational list from the classic professions. And speaking of the classic professions, we haven’t even mentioned the clergy, where formalized doctrinal discrimination knocks many women out oof professional jobs in Catholic and Muslim countries.

Do you know what the percentage of female barristers in in the UK? 13.7%. In Germany women make up roughly just a third of the bar. Only 21.6% of the doctors in Japan are women. There is still a great deal left to do to abolish gender based discrimination in the first world, let alone the Middle East and the undeveloped world. And I would imagine that gender based discrimination goes much further down the occupational list from the classic professions. And speaking of the classic professions, we haven’t even mentioned the clergy, where formalized doctrinal discrimination knocks many women out oof professional jobs in Catholic and Muslim countries. Originally Posted by TexTushHog

Those are indeed some depressing statistics and I hope they improve with time. I hope the percentage of female lawyers, doctors, professors etc. goes up in all nations.

No one should be made to feel inferior over something they have no control over such as their gender, ethnicity, height etc.

It’s hard to believe two pilots could actually be this stupid. For every 200 passengers there’s usually only one or two hotties so who wants to film a bunch of fat fucks taking a piss? However the device does not discriminate and it it violated the privacy of a non-adult these sick bastards can and should face serious jail time.

at the risk of getting back on topic...

the story as alleged, is unravelling.. I knew the story as told was horseshit.. both flight attendant spouses still work at Southwest. if they were so aggrieved, I doubt they would still be in their positions.

https://www.foxnews.com/travel/south...tempt-at-humor