On another note, did anyone see the movie "12 Strong"? Interesting based on a true story about the war just after 9/11.Excellent movie.
Basically it is like the wild wild west there. Mountains, never know who your friends/foes are. Pretty much have to treat everyone as enemy. Originally Posted by royamcr
It's similar to Vietnam. There, we were fighting communism. We lost. Vietnam is now a communist country.How true.
I'm pretty certain Afghanistan will be a fundamentalist Islamic state. The Taliban is simply stronger than those, in Afghanistan, who fight it.
Much as we'd like to, we can't save everyone. Originally Posted by pfunkdenver
For those not old enough to remember the Fall of Saigon... this is how we roll.
Originally Posted by texassapper
TE=Jackie S;1062556056]Completely disagree.
Vietnam, while still a communist enclave, is now a modern country with a surprising capitalistic bent.
Thanks Republicans. Thanks Warhawk conservatives. Originally Posted by eccieuser9500You're welcome.
On 3 July 1979, Carter signed a presidential find- ing authorizing funding for anticommunist guerrillas in Afghanistan. ... Following the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan in December Operation Storm-333 and in- stallation of a more pro-Soviet president, Babrak Karmal, Carter announced, “The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan is the greatest threat to peace since the Second World War".https://archive.org/stream/10ALQAEDA...lone-_djvu.txt
06 November 1998
TEXT: US GRAND JURY INDICTMENT AGAINST USAMA BIN LADEN
United States District Court
Southern District of New York
New York -- A U.S. Federal Grand Jury in New York on Nov. 5 issued anhttps://fas.org/irp/news/1998/11/98110602_nlt.html
indictment against Usama Bin Laden alleging that he and others engaged
in a long-term conspiracy to attack U.S. facilities overseas and to
kill American citizens.
The indictment noted that Al Qaeda, Bin Laden's international
terrorist group, forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in
Sudan and with the government of Iran and with its associated group
Hezballah to "work together against their perceived common enemies in
the West, particularly the United States."
Additionally, the indictment states that Al Qaeda reached an agreement
with Iraq not to work against the regime of Saddam Hussein and that
they would work cooperatively with Iraq, particularly in weapons
development.
This is how this was ALWAYS going to end. It should have been done during Obamas term but he was a chickenshit... at least Trump started the process before TRAITOROUS generals actually disobeyed their CINC. My beast barracks roomie pinned his first star a couple months back... I went to the ceremony and he alluded to the same.Just two weeks ago “The Idiot” Biden was saying that the very well equipped and trained Afghan Security Forces would easily defeat the Taliban.
Frankly this should end the whole spread democracy crusade of the GOPe.
The only thing we should have done was to bomb them from the stone age to mesozoic... with the assertion that anyone that fcuks with us will get a JDAM down their chimney.
You don't wage war that you have no intention of winning. If we had killed 2/3rds of every man, woman, child, and goat in that shithole the world would be a better place today.
But alas, we haven't had a Jacksonian in office in a long time. Originally Posted by texassapper
To be fair, Trump was first to say we were withdrawing completely. Biden's mistake was telling the fucking world exactly how and when. Originally Posted by Chung TranOne should carefully examine the policy statements of Trump to discern the actual intentions he had with respect to phasing out the MILITARY activities of the U.S. in Afghanistan. Media pronouncements (particularly the Anti-Trump Pro-Communist media like CNN etc) are not reliable. I suppose when you hear or see the word "contractors" you immediately assume house builders.
Please research the history of the first attempt to bring down the towers .. Clinton years!I'll go ahead and quote you on that.
Trump? Around that time Trump was orchestrating a fund raising bash in Florida for ...
Cry Baby Schumer who asked Trump to raise funds in Florida for the Blubber Baby's campaign!
Trump is a Democrat! A real Democrat. Originally Posted by LexusLover
In the first half of the 19th century, Central Asia was a target of two main powers: Russia and Great Britain. The war between Persia and Russia from 1826 to 1828 had a big impact on their relations. Russia took advantage of a doubtful article in the Treaty of Gulistan and an-nexed Gokcha. Persia took it as cassus belliand wanted to attack Russia. Persia wanted to use the Decembrist Revolt as an advantage. The British saw this conflict as Persian aggression and did not help, in accordance with the agreement of 1814. Persia lost the war, which resulted in a very catastrophic peace of Turkmenchay. The policy of foreign secretary Lord Canning in this case was a target of major criticism by the Duke of Wel-lington and Lord Ellenborough. Ellenborough warned the government that this treaty would cause an increase of Russian influence on Persia. Charles Metcalfe had similar thoughts: “were we ever to expect any essential aid from Persia, in the time of our own need, we should most assuredly find ourselves miserably deceived and disappointed. If ever Rus-sia be in the condition toset forth army against India, Persia most prob-ably will be under her banners.”
Problems were also caused by the uncertain leadership in foreign policy of British India. There were two major institutions:
Just two weeks ago “The Idiot” Biden was saying that the very well equipped and trained Afghan Security Forces would easily defeat the Taliban.We don't even have that in Chiraq. Seriously, a couple of major cities are being held hostage to a bunch of people with bullhorns, rocks, leafblowers and dollar store lasers.
What a naive old fool.
He doesn’t have a clue.
Old, senile, and stupid. Originally Posted by Jackie S