Loosing Virginity

The OP should start out with chickens and then to goats ...

I been there before. My first time I had sex was with a Provider, I was 23 years old. I don't regret it, she gave me a mindblowing session. She was a pretty Irish redhead girl with green eyes and I miss her.

The OP should start out with chickens and then to goats ... Originally Posted by pyramider

Asshole. I had no choice over being born into a closed, fundamentalist community. But thank you for your input.

I am staying out of this one. See how religion fucks with peoples heads. Originally Posted by FlectiNonFrangi

Thanks for telling me by head's fucked up. Gee, I didn't know that. Thanks!

Actually, even though I have been damaged by religion and even though I consider myself agnostic, I could make a pretty good defense of religion. I've been on the inside. I know what I'm talking about. I have seen religion "save" lives and religion destroy lives.

And I would submit that there are a whole lot of men in jail for sex related crimes who had little contact with religion.

But this is not a forum about religion.

[QUOTE=ThekNight;3166080]The OP has already made an appointment and had a provider flake on him.

How do you think that makes him feel?[quote]


It made me feel like shit. Thanks for your understanding of the situation. However, she didn't flake because I weirded her out when she met me.

On the day of the appointment, when I called to verify, she tried to raise the price, saying she was on the other side of town, and it was too far to drive. Which is true, she does operate in another part of town. Furthermore, I was already skating on some thin ice with her for trying to "jew" her down, telling her our appointment wasn't going to include the desert. So, yeah, being a newbie, it was a blow to my fragile male ego. But I recovered. I went out to a breasttaurant, and continued to feel like shit. And than I got over it.

Slim,
You're thinking too much. I popped my cherry when I was 15 with my GF who I'm convinced now was bi-polar or manic depressive. Anyway, she was a bit nutty. Like all teenage boys I wasn't looking for romantic walks or cuddling or even a strong intimate relationship. I think this line of thinking may be why you're still a virgin. You live in Dallas man! Just meet a civilian chick and stay cool and don't try to be her BF or anything or find the hottest and most well reviewed provider, lay back and let her take care of you. I'm not trying to make you feel bad or anything but you're making this bigger than it needs to be. Once you finally do it and move on to other women you'll be pissed at yourself for waiting. It's not going to be a special moment, in fact you're not gonna be all the good at it for a while so don't think so much and enjoy yourself. Originally Posted by clitlicker7

I think you are correct on the over thinking part. And I think what you are saying about why I am still a virgin is true. Apart from the whole religion thing, I also suffer from nice guy syndrome. I had some opportunities to lose my virginity when I was younger but I was too nice of a guy.

I was a romantic even at 15, not that I would have said no to a girl who would have jumped on me. But given my situation when I was 15 that wasn't going to happen.

When you are an older virgin trying to hook up with a civilian girl -- at least an attractive one -- it's not that easy. Being an older virgin, I can't have any social life with the guys, because when you get guys together the talk always turns to women -- a place I can't go. And I do not want to be outed as a virgin. Ergo, I have no social life. A man without a social life and no male friends is not going to get laid by an attractive girl. Ain't gunna happen. Very few girls are hot for loners who with awkward social skills.

I could probably go out to a bar and go ugly and fuck some 200 lb slut with low self esteem -- maybe that's what I should do. Don't know. I was hoping for something less demeaning than that.

The OP should start out with chickens and then to goats ... Originally Posted by pyramider

Asshole. I had no choice over being born into a closed, fundamentalist community. But thank you for your input. Originally Posted by slim07

Slim, good luck in your quest...it sounds more mental than physiological at this point which is a big + for you. (Ball is in your court)
Pyramider was talking about streetwalkers then progressing to BackPage (I think? I hope?) To get on his good side, post pics of female taint (I believe that is permissible as female taint is not genitalia...)

Either way you succeed, you've gotta work that mental thingy out and fast. Ex: While in Florida earlier this year, I was with a provider, mature and with many reviews, did my research, etc. Just before giving me a bbbj, she started crying (tears) and stating how she was going to go to hell and all this stuff. Earlier she was telling me about herself, etc and part of it was growing up in a very strict and religious household. The guilt was killing her.

What? Oh, what did I do? I gave her a reason to be going to hell
I pulled her teary face closer and guided my dick into her mouth...very gently, then she took over!

I would not go the Brothel route. You will have a much better time in a relaxed atmosphere with a sweet lady who will take her time.
Just do some research to find the right one. You will probably have to go with a newbee friendly provider. She will still screen but will use other methods. Be sure to look at her reviews, which brings me to another point, you may want to buy up to premium access so you can see the rest of the story on the reviews. Do some homework in this area and you will be able to find a hot lady who will treat you right.
Good luck and have fun! Originally Posted by JG4DATY

I paid for a p411 membership. But that doesn't give access to reviews. Hot ladies who do real GFE are surprisingly hard to find. My brief experience is: this industry is 99% wahm bam thank you ma'am. Frequently in the most demeaning way possible. Sex completely devoid of human contact. And they say I'm the one fucked in the head for wanting more than that. Maybe they're right.

Client do not loose their virginity with me... They have taken from them!!! Originally Posted by LadyRed

Take me darling!

First, make the Search tab your friend. Life's, and hobby, questions can be answered.

Second, download porn and buy some lube.

If you are not willing to do the proper research always go back to #2. Originally Posted by pyramider

Dude, I've been jerking off since I was about 6 years old. I think it's time to move on.

This post was research.

Well I typed a reply but eccie fucked up after I pressed the reply, let me use notepad and retype my reply.

slim07 u and I are in a somewhat similar situation barring the religion side.


Real easy to do SL if the provider does not flake on the client like the one I discussed with you in the past from Austin. I was honest with the provider about my situation and she basically would never go through with the meeting. Originally Posted by ThekNight

Older virgins are a pariah. I'm with you.

A lot of the anti-sex brigade spend a lot of time wringing their hands over children who are exposed to sex too young -- and they have a point, I don't want to belittle that. But people who for whatever reason grow older without sex are also sadly damaged.

Not being mean towards you but what is the rest of the story going to show the OP but a bunch of sex acts that he does not know how to do while he has not even had sex yet? Originally Posted by ThekNight

The ROS can provide important information other than sex acts -- demeanor, personality, etc.

First off let me get this straight, you're paying two grand at a brothel? If you had that kind of cash you can get plenty of providers to be your girlfriend for the day. You do have to be screened. I suggest P411. You say you're a virgin and your older with the high school mentality for sex. Do not get taken advantage of. Do not fall in love with the first girl you fuck either.*

I'm curious, how far have you gone? Have you had oral sex? Because according to Bill Clinton, it's not sex. What have you done? This information will help us guide you in not such a destructive path. You my friend are in a pretty vulnerable *state. This sugarbaby route sounds good but I don't think it's good for you right now. You need to be introduced to the V Jayjay if you have not already met?. Originally Posted by Salsa man

It easy for an experienced hobbyist to say get a gf for a day. But due to legalities the logistics of that are another story.

I have been screened by p411.

I don't think I will fall in love with the first girl. Given my age and life's experiences -- although minus normal sexual relations -- I don't think that will happen. I could be wrong. Falling in love with a provider would actually be a step up from my current pathetic situation. I suspect I'm vulnerable primarily due to loneliness.

I had two girl friends when I was high school age. I didn't go to a real high school. I want to a church school, and the two girl friends where not high school girl friends in the normal sense of the word. We didn't get to hang out together and do normal kid stuff like hang out at shopping malls, going to movies, etc. Both "relationships" involved heavy making out. The one girl didn't like to kiss, was self conscience of her small breasts (no touching there), but gave me near constant bare back hand jobs when we were together. I had a 24/hr erection back then. But she never brought me to organism, her technique being so poor. The other girl, was proud of her amazing breasts, liked to kiss and be fondled, but wouldn't touch my pants. Besides kissing her face, I also kissed her vee jay. But nothing oral, it was all kid stuff and very clumsy and naive. I did bring her to orgasm, but not orally, and more by mistake than anything. She liked to ride my leg. It was something I read in a Playboy years ago on things that girls like. One was putting your leg between hers when you draw her to you and kiss her. I tried it. It worked. She climbed on me, whimpered and trembled and shook and clutched at herself while in my arms, clinging to me. Those are the memories that make me a wealthy soul. I still carry a torch for her. But only because there was no sexual partners for me after that. When I said my sexuality is naive, I wasn't kidding. Both of those girls where inside the religious community and still are.

Inside the fundamentalist community, I was raised without TV or radio and had no access to main stream American popular culture. I left when I was 18 and went to a fundamentalist University. Although the university was fundy, it was main stream fundy, so I was no longer as sequestered from the larger world. But contact with the opposite sex was still limited and any sexual contact was of course strictly forbidden. However, during those years I developed a preppy life style and look that girls seemed to like. Because of my sheltered childhood I was not desensitized to girls walking around in short shorts with their bras showing, etc. as normal boys are. I was in a state (complete with raging hard-on) whenever I was around them. Girls found this cute about me. I learned that they like me ogling them. So there was a period in my life where I would go out to shopping malls or wherever girls were and ogle them till I got some positive feedback then run home and masturbate furiously. Then I discovered that I could skip the running home part, girls weren't necessarily opposed to my wanking to them if it was done in the proper manner -- worshipful, erotic eye contact, no nuditiy. The shit that kids do!

I was fortunate (or unfortunate, since it allowed me to continue with my arrested sexual development) in that I looked young for my age. My beard didn't start to grow in till my mid 30s. I continued to feed this particular dalliance till it became a fetish. If not a full blown fetish than at least a sexual release, that made it possible for me to go as long as I have without real sex. Now I'm too old for that sort of thing. However, that experience has left me with a strong voyeur inclination. Any adult relationship I have will have to accommodate a lot of looking and wanking. That's just who I am. That's not gonna change. I read in an Elvis biography that he also preferred looking and wanking to actual vaginal sex. His proclivity developed because getting a girl pregnant would have meant the end of his career. So at a young age he developed a kink of sorts. So I have something in common with the king.

So there. That's some fodder for the anti-religious crusaders.

I would advise getting premium access and spending some time looking at the reviews of potential candidates.

If I had 2000 and my virginity to lose, I would do it this way...

Set up a meeting with 4 providers for 90 minutes. If anyone ever asks how you lost your virginity, you can say, "I lost it in a reverse gangbang with 4 ladies." In terms of making a "connection," you will have increased your chances by 4.

After the 90 minute reverse gangbang, ask 3 or less providers to leave. Spend your remaining time and money with the remaining provider(s) -- the one(s) with whom you have made a connection.

Have fun. Good luck.

Now that I've given myself wood, time to masturbate...

Sounds like you want to turn the clock back to high school. Easy enough to do. Find a provider that does BBBJCIMNQNS. Then set up an evening appointment. Have her meet you at your car. Drop your pants and let her do her thing! That should prime the pump and you will be on the road to hobbyville! Get that first exciting encounter behind you and you'll be off to the races! Wait till you get to college, you’re going to lose your mind! Originally Posted by Still Looking

I don't' know that I want to be a hobbyist. It may turn out to be the only future for me. Don't know. But I need to get the virginity thing out of the way so that I can have a normal social life. At my age It is impossible to yuck it up with other men without talking about women and sex. And without a social life it's impossible to get attractive girls. As an older virgin I am in the weirdo zone and need to get out of it pronto to get on with my life.