This is for all you Bozos that don't think LE doesn't get information from reviews and use it in investigations!

Why else would we not be seeing places opening as fast as they're closed down? Spa owners sick and tired of clearing 2-3 million a year in tax free revenue? The property owners know what's going on in their place and who they're renting to. Going after them and giving them a legal hassle would give most pause as they're still paying property taxes regardless if it's occupied or not. Originally Posted by twitch760

Bingo. Some of the property / building owners are unlikely to rent these places out at $15,000 month moving forward. And yet if they do not cooperate they could face legal consequences. The Asian hotties need to go indie or get adopted by well established providers.

Guys,
Even though we may not know every single reason that some of these Spas and AMPs are shut down but the obvious reason for a lot of them are Illegal Activity(Prostitution) and alleged Human Trafficking. Those would be the TOP reasons. We do know that LE has infiltrated these websites and they are collecting information and intel from reviewers to use in their investigations. They are shutting down these establishments at a higher frequency. They have State and Federal dollars and assistance. They can strike at any time. They will not stop as long as the law is being broken.
Not too many people talking about change or adaptation when it comes to this site and the information that is given out for public consumption. We should be able to come together on some kind of common ground. There is no single right answer or solution. It's going to take a collective effort from everyone and that may mean swallowing some your pride.

Guys,
Even though we may not know every single reason that some of these Spas and AMPs are shut down but the obvious reason for a lot of them are Illegal Activity(Prostitution) and alleged Human Trafficking. Those would be the TOP reasons. We do know that LE has infiltrated these websites and they are collecting information and intel from reviewers to use in their investigations. They are shutting down these establishments at a higher frequency. They have State and Federal dollars and assistance. They can strike at any time. They will not stop as long as the law is being broken.
Not too many people talking about change or adaptation when it comes to this site and the information that is given out for public consumption. We should be able to come together on some kind of common ground. There is no single right answer or solution. It's going to take a collective effort from everyone and that may mean swallowing some pride. Originally Posted by Mental AtrraXXXion

Proof federal and state dollars are going towards shutting down spas? You're making a shit ton of statements but you're not showing any evidence of there being a dark cloud over the scene.


Do you really think the powers that be don't know about this site? Or p411 which literally advertises providers? Why is this still around if it's the golden mine you think the LE consider it to be? You're neglecting to mention that one piece of evidence you have us took 23 reviews after almost six years. You're telling them it took over half a decade for that to be factored in?

Am I saying that things shouldn't change and people shouldnt be mindful? Nope. But I also think you're massively overstating your case with very little evidence.

Spas shut down. And sometimes they open. But you don't know the reason for the rate of either so you're just crying the sky is falling.

Again, I am going to emphasize that there should be some revisions but the reality is, NOTHING YOU'RE SAYING isn't already being read by and noted by LE.

Provide evidencem

It seems like the obvious solution is for AMP ladies to go Indy. The demand is overwhelming. Some might get a good chuckle but a few have done it

In no uncertain terms Asian hotties turning Indy would take the “human trafficking” argument off the table. They have the pussy. They should have the power

I have said this before stay away from amps DFW has planned to close them all I told y'all that all the amps on walnut hill would be gone an look what happened. Now I'm telling that all the amps on Harry Hines are next blue an the rest Originally Posted by Cumflywithme42

IF THE PLAN IS TO CLOSE THEM... WHY DOES DALLAS KEEP OFFERING SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESS LICENSES?....

IT IS IN THE INTEREST OF DALLAS TO KEEP THESE PLACES OPEN! THE S.O.B LICENSES GENERATE TAX $$$$

I think the objective s to keep the ladies off the streets so AMPs are tolerated. Until election time. These raids always coincide with the election cycle.

IF THE PLAN IS TO CLOSE THEM... WHY DOES DALLAS KEEP OFFERING SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESS LICENSES?....

IT IS IN THE INTEREST OF DALLAS TO KEEP THESE PLACES OPEN! THE S.O.B LICENSES GENERATE TAX $$$$ Originally Posted by Haus

the Spas do not have SOB licenses. but property tax revenue is a reason, apparently it has historically been good reason, since the Spas have been around for decades, and nobody seemed to care until recently.

Until election time. These raids always coincide with the election cycle. Originally Posted by DaddyJ

I see that posted all the time, and frankly, I don't think election time has ANYTHING to do with raids. I have never seen even slight correlation.

The no. 1 and jade raids happened around uniform election time

The no. 1 and jade raids happened around uniform election time Originally Posted by Aoi

"uniform" election time?

we had a small election yesterday.. that election?

the argument then should be that the next election is a YEAR away.. so no raids for another, what, 6 months?

what about the Emerald Street raid early this year? what election was that tied to?

I’m not saying they’re all tied to election time?

I’m just saying some are. A few years ago when every AMP in the area were closed for a few weeks, also happened during October. Also during election time.

There’s some truth in the election time argument but I never me said it was the end all of answers

I think “human trafficking” gets federal and state dollars. LE would go broke chasing individual hookers around every street corner. Apparently AMP crime pays and pays well. Mamasons get prosecuted and go right back into business. Property owners are not prosecuted Bc the city wants the tax base. Busting a few AMPs at a time is justification for more budget to stop “human trafficking” but why bust them all at once and run out of money?

If this is not the plot then what is it? If “human trafficking” is in fact such a dire issue why not raid all the AMPs at once. I’m not convinced many of the ladies would be happy but they would get “help with their trafficking situation”. Right ?

Proof federal and state dollars are going towards shutting down spas? You're making a shit ton of statements but you're not showing any evidence of there being a dark cloud over the scene.


Do you really think the powers that be don't know about this site? Or p411 which literally advertises providers? Why is this still around if it's the golden mine you think the LE consider it to be? You're neglecting to mention that one piece of evidence you have us took 23 reviews after almost six years. You're telling them it took over half a decade for that to be factored in?

Am I saying that things shouldn't change and people shouldnt be mindful? Nope. But I also think you're massively overstating your case with very little evidence.

Spas shut down. And sometimes they open. But you don't know the reason for the rate of either so you're just crying the sky is falling.

Again, I am going to emphasize that there should be some revisions but the reality is, NOTHING YOU'RE SAYING isn't already being read by and noted by LE.

Provide evidencem Originally Posted by Aoi

Are you serious dude??? OMG!!
The Spas and AMPs being shut down have been cited to be involved in Human/Sex Trafficking. Where have you been? Everybody and their mama knows that State and Federal funding is used to combat this and shut these places down except for you. Some of these raids even involve State and Federal Law Enforcement. Dallas receives regular funding from State and Federal LE. Before you challenge someone you should do your own research because you don't sound so bright and you should crawl from under your rock more often.
You want evidence, ok

Proof federal and state dollars are going towards shutting down spas? You're making a shit ton of statements but you're not showing any evidence of there being a dark cloud over the scene. Originally Posted by Aoi

Can you read?
It says State and Federal Law Enforcement involved in shutting down Dallas Spa/Amp!!



Want some more??

I am convinced that there are people on this board that have an agenda to try to derail any efforts that help our hobby community. They are coming with baseless arguments without even knowing the facts. They attempt to drive a wedge in between us. They are not educated in anything they talk about, just useless ramblings. They run in the same circle of misfits that want you to believe that being defiant is the way to go. They question common sense. They have no common sense. These are the careless types that hurt this hobby.

Are you serious dude??? OMG!!
The Spas and AMPs being shut down have been cited to be involved in Human/Sex Trafficking. Where have you been? Everybody and their mama knows that State and Federal funding is used to combat this and shut these places down except for you. Some of these raids even involve State and Federal Law Enforcement. Dallas receives regular funding from State and Federal LE. Before you challenge someone you should do your own research because you don't sound so bright and you should crawl from under your rock more often.
You want evidence, ok




Originally Posted by Mental AtrraXXXion

Chill out dude, I asked for evidence because your initial posts didn’t have them.

Quit your crying.

It really should be noted that NOTHING YOU POST HERE isn’t already being read so again instead of whining, come up with some fucking solutions.

From the BEGINNING, I’ve said we should exercise caution so don’t lump me in with the people who don’t think nothing is happening.

Come up with solutions. Or all you’re doing is crying.