Disputing False Review from user bp6570

Johnny4455's Avatar
To op... You post here, and call anybody who responds "rude". Then you admit you meant to say "unfair" not "false". There is a huge difference. Let me see if I can help you understand.. Your post about the reviewer was false. Your response to destiny's post was unfair.

Your comment about kc folks not reading banners is rude.
Where can this high STD rate in KC be found?
Stiffy008's Avatar
What got me was the statement, that Kansas City has a high rate of STD's, this is the first time I have heard of this. KC seams to be on a lot of providers travel plans, and they do adjust their donation per the city's going rate, some do come in strong, but learn very fast we are not the East or West Coast. Maybe research on your part would have helped you make your plans go a little smoother, you also stated your friend lowered her donation for the area she travels to, at least she has a business plan, and knows how to price her services per the market area.

So your informing everyone that you are GFE at 350 to 400 per hour, but all services are Covered. That's not my type of a Girlfriend, maybe that's just me.
If you're not coming to KC, what makes you think anyone cares about the review.
There are some great ladies here that get great reviews. Doubt if you'll be missed.

From Showgirls :
Al Torres: You're a fucking stripper, don't you get it.
Nomi Malone: I'm a dancer.
malwoody's Avatar
Here is the Review:
I no longer visit such areas as Kansas City,
I would like more reviews but from guys who can actually be honest about the situation, and look at it from our perspective too, not just their own. Originally Posted by lacylovesluxuries

"such areas"...?

Like Destiny asked, in what way was he being dishonest?..I don't get why you agreed to see him in the first place..after all I think he buys his clothes off the rack and has to wait in line like the majority of folks who inhabit this area...obviously not up to your standards..so why see him at all and now that you will never come to "such areas".again.why endeavor to burn a bridge?

Oh and BTW...what "guys who can actually be honest" did you want the reviews from?
I had no idea that the east and west coasts had "honest" guys and there were none around here..

How long you been doin this...?

I no longer visit such areas as Kansas City, Texas or any midwest city where the market price is lower than what I like... But for 200/hr yes my services are limited... For 200/hr no I am not willing to give any extra service. it is a non gfe, non msog service... I do kiss but 200/hr is not my gfe rate. Originally Posted by lacylovesluxuries
...I only got 200/hr I know myself. That is my non gfe rate, and of course I am going to decline kissing, daty, or bbbj if it a non gfe service. Originally Posted by lacylovesluxuries
Yeah, I think we got the idea... You're never coming back to Kansas City, and you have a menu.

Another fine example of why I hate these "gfe upgrade" menus. Either a provider is gfe or you aren't.
This is exactly why I am not coming back... Originally Posted by lacylovesluxuries
...I am done with this thread. Originally Posted by lacylovesluxuries
So... I guess we're done here?
bp6570's Avatar
I just saw this post & am at a loss to respond.

I wonder how, when this appointment took place over a month ago, you can remember details about me? But then you obviously don't because I am not young, unless you consider the late 40's to be young?

Secondly, I read all your previous reviews & would not have seen you if you didn't somewhat approach GFE. If you read my reviews, which I am sure you haven't, I have had many experiences with ladies who only do cbj and I am fine with that. I don't need kissing of any sort.

Thirdly, our appointment was confirmed via text early on a Saturday for noonish. There was plenty of time between when we first communicated & the time we actually met. This was by no means a "rush" appointment.

I only made one request of you which you had done before according to your prior reviews. Were those reviews false? Will you dispute those details?

Also, I never once questioned your rates, in fact we never spoke about them. I got your rate information from your ads, your reviews, etc.

I could go on but it would be a pyhric victory. I wish you well but I stand by everything in my review.

BTW: do I need to explain what a "pyhric victory is for you?
I agree with Stiffy. You will get complaints and bad reviews if you don't do what the other local gals are getting paid per their reviews. Simply research the recent reviews an focus on the fee, activities and take a look at the girl. If she is similar to you in beauty (height/weight, etc.) then no one will pay more to see you especially when you don't offer the activities expected for the standard donation rate here or anywhere. Places like KC require a provider to give more of a GFE for $300-$350 including LFK, DFK, BBBJ, and DATY including FS in any and every form. Hell for $350, you had probably be willing to do bbbj and then do Greek and return to bbbj here. The gentlemen here are some of the sweetest, you just can't expect them to be happy if they are used to spending their hard earned $350 or even $250 and not getting a bbbj. Take it from a recent KC transplant, the men are way more pleasant when they are getting for what they pay for as I am sure goes for other Midwest cities and states. Let me simplify by breaking down the economics of your main concern, which may I add is valid. NY city average gross income for the middle class business man = $$$$$. KC and other Midwest area average gross income for the middle class business man = $$$. Therefore $250 to an average business man who only has one income is A LOT of money, hell that's a truck payment. Also look at the real estate markets when you travel vs the average single male income stats in that area. Here, $350 is some peoples monthly mortgage cost. So yeah, they may not be pleased when they spend an automobile or a mortgage payment on a one hour session where they don't get what they are entitled to from any other sexy local VP. This is not meant to be an insult to any party, just advise if you intend to tour. It's all about the environment you're in. There are some of the sexiest VPs here in the US but they don't charge a mortgage payment and not give what is expected for that. Our men work long and hard for their money and so do us providers as I am sure you do too. It's all about knowing ones environment. Good luck and I hope you give the Midwest another try. For what you offer $150 is what you should expect for your time and limited GFE but you WONT find any men as charming, sweet, and loyal than those in KC vs up East. I guaranty that.
Like you said, this is a job. I'm assuming your an independent provider so technically you are running your own business. Since you a business woman, treat it like business and not so personal. Even if what you think was a negative review, learn from it. In my profession, you try to make up for lack of service. It really isn't costing you anything but time in your services. When you make a mistake and are not able to communicate well with a client, sometimes offering an incentive(s) well help give you a positive return from the client. If the client ends up being to pushy or rude, just walk away and give them their donation back. Don't lie to yourself and try to spin your one bad experience as the client's/city's fault. You have your right to your rates, and make sure to point them out next time. Or deal with adjusting your rates like any good business would do.
lakecat's Avatar
I think she's gone.

What a great idea to post this in the KC section. Makes me want to go play on the East Coast, I had no clue what I've been missing out on.

What's everybody think, was she more disgusted with the low life KC dudes who demanded services at an insulting fee she agreed to or with the clueless ladies here who offer ridiculously low rates and forced her to lower her standards?
I think she's just new at business 101. She will learn
I think the only reason why she posted this was because its killing her business where shes at, so disputing it would be her way of showing how he was wrong and she was right. So shes trying to clear her name to get business unfortunately I think this thread has back fired in her face and now shes gonna have to lower her rates for any business at all because of the way she has spoken rudely to the clients here in kc as well as very well known providers. Not a good look for her what so ever. I have seen the client in question over this review and would see him alot more.
I agree gfe does not come and go with extra donation its either u are or u arent.
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Girl, girl, *shaking my head*, girl....not a good way to draw unnecessary attention to something that is so minor!
…...and you brought on the negative attitudes for turning your pointy nose up in the air……….... Originally Posted by LeilaniBebe

Right on. I first had sympathy for this lady; but then, I thought about it. LelianiBebe is right. It has been my observation that most beautiful woman, no matter how beautiful and desirable, have a tendency to have an attitude problem. Somehow it makes them unreal. Note, I said most, not all.

My first wife was very beautiful, but passed away (breast cancer). She was great to me, but showed just a little bit of the "I am so beautiful" attitude. She enjoyed the attention it brought, and I guess I was proud to show her off, and she gave me some good looking kids. She used to say how nice it was that they had my brains and her looks. (Found the hobby, after she died.)

Life goes on. My second wife, was very beautiful, but passed away. A great woman, but not as beautiful as the first wife. But no problem with the attitude. She gave me step children.

Damn if I could not find a beautiful girl to marry the third time, so I married an ugly one, and got another family of all high achievers. Best decision I made in my older years. Before she got sick, she did everything she could for me. I have never known a woman more dedicated to her man. She has been a joy to be with, and a big help to my life.

We all love sex, and I still need it. But a beautiful girl is not as important to me as attitude. Just watch what a girls posts and find out if you would trust her to be intimate with you.

So, I don't establish relationships on how a person looks, and I don't give reviews.

JR
Here is the Review:

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...ight=lacy+love

Hello My name is Lacy Love. I am new to Eccie and did not even know that this review existed until now or I would have addressed it sooner.

I am a provider who lives in Sacramento, service the SF Bay area, but spend most of my time touring the east coast. First of all I want to say my normal hourly rate is 300, 350. At the lowest I have charged 250 for a full service gfe like session.

I no longer visit such areas as Kansas City, Texas or any midwest city where the market price is lower than what I like. The only reason I ever came is because I at one time had a friend who visits there often, but her rates are lower than mine. I wasn't getting much business with the higher rate so I lowered it.

I am very accommodating but you must communicate with me what you like and what you want. But for 200/hr yes my services are limited, to where you can see on myredbook it says I do not kiss and am not GFE. My services have changed since then, a lot of them dating back to 2010, 2011, 2012.

I should have way more reviews for how long I have been around but have always been paranoid that it could be used against you by law enforcement & have requested not to be reviewed. But I have realized how essential it is to have them, and how one lowsey review can leave people wondering if it is not addressed.

For 200/hr no I am not willing to give any extra service. it is a non gfe, non msog service. Which is why he states "a lot of no's" If I am to get my full preferred rate I offer msog, lfk, daty, dato, cbj, hj, cfs, cum on body, toy shows, and many more desired services (which are on my P411 menu). I have never had any problems with anyone or any bad reviews in my history as a provider. Never heard anyone say I looked better in the pictures online. I always say YMMV.

I go completely off respect, and the way you approach me. With the right approach I can be a lot of fun. In my opinion he was rude, demanding, and asking a lot for such a low rate. The whole thing was just awkward and he did not communicate with me well. Maybe we just did not click. Maybe he was having a bad day. Maybe other providers in that area are comfortable doing all that for that price but I am not, which is why I shall not be returning to the area. I stick to the East Coast.

Also the fact that I do not do bbbj which was requested, as well as kissing. I do kiss but 200/hr is not my gfe rate. I never participate in any high risk, unsafe activities as STDs can still be passed through bbbj. (Kansas City has a very high STD rate) I can admit I do run a little late, especially on late minute appointments. You call and expect to be there in 10-15 minutes? That is not always possible & I do my best to be on time but I like to freshen up for each client. Hygiene is essential.

He was on the younger side too, I believe. I may be wrong about that it was awhile ago. I prefer not to see anyone under 35. Simply because they are more mature, established, and kind. They are often married, divorced, or do not have time for a relationship. They treat me like gold and just appreciate being in the company of a young lady who is wiling to please them and make them feel good.

The younger guys think that sex is required, and always want to do so much. It is known the reason most guys call. As I do enjoy sex and never decline, I am an escort not a prostitute. Donations are for my time & companionship. It is about connecting on a mutual level. If you want a bim bam thank you m'am where your screwing the whole time, go have a one night stand! Escorting is just like dating in a way, just no strings attached. Some guys may not agree with that but as you are entitled to your opinion, so am I. We want to be respected reguardless of our profession.

Plain and simple you treat me well I will treat you even better! I say give me a chance, and review me based on a normal scale, not some list of requirments you think you should recieve with every appointment you make with a provider, that is just not realistic. I am a very nice, smart, young, good looking girl. and I love sex! Shouldn't that count for something?


Here are links to all of my other reviews:


Myredbook: http://www.myredbook.com/showpro.aspx?id=1418033


TER: http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp? id=243052

Verification Sites:

P411: https://www.preferred411.com/P140311

DateCheck (I have a lifeime membership): http://www.date-check.com/memberarea...?ProID=MI8594F

I would like more reviews but from guys who can actually be honest about the situation, and look at it from our perspective too, not just their own. Originally Posted by lacylovesluxuries
Lacy

Its no doubt you are a very lovely woman....very hot btw!!

I do believe you have to charge that rate in those other areas because the cost of living is so high....correct?
No problem....the midwest cost of living is lower....so thats why there may be a lower rate here...good for us!

Now the article you qouted I didnt see anywhere where it said KC's STD rate was higher than normal....we are a city of 2 million....so not sure where you are getting your numbers??

Would I see you...at the $350 rate and CBJ.....probrably not.
Nothing personal...I would love to see you BUT ya see BBBJ is important to me and for me thats too high of a price ...so fair enough you don't wanna come here...ok no problem...we are a great stopping point for many beautiful women from around the country who love KC

Another thought is that maybe the expectations weren't set properly up front...and maybe again once you 2 met initially....maybe they were and this guy tried to push it anyway...if he did shame on him

Your menu might too complicated...charge a flat rate for everything

I do hope you do come to KC and give it a chance you might be suprised...if you dont I respect that but understand another bus is just around the corner...and they will pick up what you didnt...

My best to you...but once again you are very lovely!
Ive learned that in KC (and many other cities), if you're not a GFE provider, rates need to be reasonable or clients are just not willing to, well, get RIPPED OFF! If your services have changed, you have to inform people somehow, someway. If not, the only person being "unfair" is the provider. Simple.