abortion

Context doesn't change facts, dummy.

Sorry, I appreciate the offer, but I won't be taking over your job... you're already the best at it. Originally Posted by texassapper

He’s always hitting on guys on Eccie.

What would be wrong with letting each individual woman decide for herself whether to have a baby or not ?


No imposing on others.....no arbitrary decisions on when life begins......consistent with American ideas of freedom.


Why is that so difficult ? Originally Posted by VitaMan

Number one, You've stepped on the toes of the woke...a woman? Where have you been? According to the left, anyone can get pregnant. Man, you are so last century.
How about we let someone decided if they want to kill their annoying neighbor. Let that person decide, right?
An abortion involved at least two people, the mother and the baby. Who speaks for the baby's life? The baby is alive or else it would classified as a still birth. So there is no question of life. There is just a question of personhood. That is the same question the democrats argued about slaves. They're not people.
The right has been consistent; babies are alive and they're people. Kind of means that they have a RIGHT to life.

I think abortion should be legal until the kid moves out of their parents house.

Great advice on a Hooker Board. Congrats....you've won the fluffer job at a gay porn shoot. Originally Posted by WTF

Why do ya have to shit-up the thread?
No need to post unless you add to the discussion.

### Salty

texassapper and therealbarleycorn have made the same argument. It was addressed in the 1st post. What they are arguing is they know when life begins.....so we need to follow what they tell us.



Do you understand......not all other people believe what you do.....why do you have to go around telling other people what to do, based on your beliefs ? Why can't you leave them alone, to follow what they believe ?

The 2nd point texassapper makes is women can have rights and freedom, but the State can still swoop in later and make them follow State rules. So they really have no freedoms.


Maybe gun control laws should be changed. Gun owners can be free to have guns. However, after they load them, the State can swoop in and tell them what to do.

texassapper and therealbarleycorn have made the same argument. It was addressed in the 1st post. What they are arguing is they know when life begins.....so we need to follow what they tell us.



Do you understand......not all other people believe what you do.....why do you have to go around telling other people what to do, based on your beliefs ? Why can't you leave them alone, to follow what they believe ?

The 2nd point texassapper makes is women can have rights and freedom, but the State can still swoop in later and make them follow State rules. So they really have no freedoms.
Originally Posted by VitaMan

These Grumpy old men don't get it. If it fits their beliefs, the Government should be empowered to control you in all manner. Meanwhie they complain that there is a Leftist conspiracy to take away freedoms.

... Surely seem the Democrats and liberals are the same way.

"My body - My choice!" -- Except when the government wants to
FORCE you to get vaxxed.

### Salty

The difference you are missing is 1 of them is transmissible...but you would blame that on Joe anyway.

... No difference at all.

IF it's truly "My Body - My Choice" - then that's it.
The government should NOT be able to FORCE me to take
a vax or anything that might harm me... MY CHOICE, remember?

#### Salty

... No difference at all.

IF it's truly "My Body - My Choice" - then that's it.
The government should NOT be able to FORCE me to take
a vax or anything that might harm me... MY CHOICE, remember?

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

I'm with you Salty.

But that means if you refuse the vax, and get hospitalized, don't look to Biden's Build Back Better Bill to supply funds to pay for your ventilator.

... Seeing-as Biden RAN OUT OF ventilatours - it's surely
a moot point, mate.

### Salty

... No difference at all.

IF it's truly "My Body - My Choice" - then that's it.
The government should NOT be able to FORCE me to take
a vax or anything that might harm me... MY CHOICE, remember?

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

You are pro choice then. And a Republican.

... No, I'm for limited abortion choice and the states'
right to make rules for it.
Let the states put abortion on the ballot and let the people decide.

And I'm CONSERVATIVE - and mostly side with Republicans.

### Salty

You don't want to get vaccinated but if you don't, you may spread Covid and cause people to die.

You don't want to get vaccinated but if you don't, you may spread Covid and cause people to die. Originally Posted by VitaMan

you do know that vaccinated people can spread covid, right???