OMG! I SAW U YESTRDY, AND NOW MY PEINS HAS TURND BALCK AND FALLS OFF1!!
FU! FU!1 U DISEES RIDEN HORE!1!
Originally Posted by LNK
I am just joking. If offensive, please accept my apology in advance...
A come-back could have been, "That's disease-ridden courtesan (companion, etc.) to you, buddy!" Originally Posted by emptywallet
][/I]Did you worry about this when you were single, Steve? Depending on how many partners you've had, and how many the lady has had, the risk is probably not much more or less than it would be in the non-Hobby world if you weren't monogamous and were a fairly randy dude.My very thoughts exactly. I leave the drunk in love sex to Beyonce.
I actually think that relations with a REPUTABLE provider/escort/companion would be safer than the half-drunk girl you pick up at the bar. We ladies know that our livelihoods depends on our health and hygiene, so we tend to take extra precautions and be more diligent about check-ups than most non-providers.
There is always going to be a risk. You have to decide how much is acceptable.
As far as BBBJ goes, the risk of contracting HIV is low. (Stomach and mouth acids are inhospitable. Oral AND kissing should be avoided after dental work.) For more info see:
http://www.aidsmap.com/Oral-sex/page/1044877/
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/behavior/oralsex.html
Originally Posted by Fancyinheels;1055199244[I
First off hearsay and flat out BS info about STD's is rampant about sex in the world from mostly clueless people online and off.
People never quote actual sources or FACTS about STD's, just random BS they spute from there unintelligent mouths.
For example...
1. The Bunny Ranch in Nevada in 30+ years has NEVER EVER had a reported STD case! Let that sink it. Why is that you ask? Because every girl working on any given week in a Nevada brothel because it's regulated and taxed by the State of Nevada must be tested EVERY WEEK by a licensed doctor.
(Source: www.bunnyranch.com/news/all-condoms/all-condoms.html)
The Bunny Ranch and all Nevada brothel providers get tested WEEKLY for HIV, herpes, genital warts, syphilis, gonorrhea and the clap. Even the most tested Porn Stars in California are only tested once a MONTH. The vast majority of people in the USA have never even had one STD test or maybe one there whole adult life.
But hobbyists consider themselves safe and low risk don't they compared to providers.
Outside of a virgin or a nun guys The Bunny Ranch girls are probably the safest girls you’re going to ever hook up with in your life. My point is just because providers are providers does not mean your STD odds are any higher than playing the general woman pool in America.
How many woman have you been with on a one night stand and gone bare back with? How many quote unquote "sluts" did you hook up with on a booty call in college or in your life and you knew they slept around, but you went bareback anyways?
I personally feel providers in America should be and get tested at least once a month. It doesn't cost very much at a Planned Parenthood or take much time at all.
Hell, I'd even be willingly to pay for it or share in the test costs if I got to see the results every month just so I sleep a little better at night. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
That could be a legitimate upsell ladies, become a "SAFETY GIRL". BBBJ girls are the big in demand sellers right, but this could be a big niche with hobbyists that would want this as well. Call them "Safety Girl lovers".
Hell, ECCIE could even make up a cute little Safety Badge girl icon to put next to your profile and signature so guys know you get tested every month or even worse case every other month.
Hard part would be how you would prove that to ECCIE and to hobbyists. You could cross off your name/address on the STD reports and scan or fax those to ECCIE every month that could be one option.
You could make your STD records public on your websites to regulars or serious people interested in a date. Again with your private name/address info crossed off for your security.
Or if our puritanical uptight about sex crazy-religious-hypocritical USA society and law makers would just make it legal than testing would be required. But that's a pipe dream and I digress.
2. Another very reasonable, logical and safe reason why providers want to see only guys 30+ or older. Not just because they assume that they have more money to spend on them or are more mature.
Young people (ages 15-24) are particularly affected, accounting for half (50 percent) of all new STDs, although they represent only 25 percent of the sexually experienced population!
The high school to college age guys/gals are the most likely to have and spread a STD! So all you hobbyists that are obsessed with seeing the 18-25 girls, you're also drastically increasing your rate of catching something with this age of providers statistically speaking. How's that for a boner killer moment!
(Source: www.cdc.gov/std/stats/sti-estimates-fact-sheet-feb-2013.pdf)
Two cents
BL Originally Posted by lovesbustyblondes
It may seem paranoid, but after hearing my SO warn my sons about the risks of even "safe"sex I am reluctant to go uncovered bbbj or do covered FS in the hobby. Could someone give me some perspective on the std risks involved with condom use such as, what if the condom breaks during intercourse or skin on skin contact uncovered by the condom. ok to pm Originally Posted by STEVE_STUDMUFFINHIV transmission through 'insertive fellatio', which means an HIV-negative man receiving oral sex from a person with HIV, is very low risk and may be impossible.
HIV transmission through 'insertive fellatio', which means an HIV-negative man receiving oral sex from a person with HIV, is very low risk and may be impossible.I'd bareback vaginally before I would bareback a lady doing Greek. I'd want junior covered if he is going in the back door
There have been NO documented cases of someone being infected with HIV through receiving cunnilingus from a woman with HIV.
Source: www.aidsmap.com/oral-sex/page/1044877
Any documented cases of HIV being transmitted by oral (BBBJ) were by one gay guy to another gay guy only and even then literally only a dozen or two documented cases ever! Literally one in a many millions type of risk factor even for gay guys.
If you're paranoid or just want to be safe and want absolutely no chance (100%) of zero STD's then option one is you only get from providers FBSM+1, HJ, Russian or CBJ completions for yourself.
NO DATY or DATO on a provider either unless you use a dental dam and then really what's the point.
Second option if you want 100% (99.9999999%) of no HIV chance, but you will still have a very small chance of catching other STD's just add to your menu the ever so beloved and beautiful BBBJ.
With both those two options you also rule out ever being a provider's baby daddy by some freak, but always possible pregnancy accident.
Now the #1 way (increased odds) to get HIV or STD's is giving/receiving anal (greek). A condom of course reduces the risk versus bareback and then next highest is vaginal intercourse on the risk scale.
That's why I don't understand hobbyist's obsession with Greek with providers.
Is it because societally it's still considered so taboo, is it because there wife/girlfriend doesn't let them do that on them, a macho power alpha dominance thing they just get off on doing, a "tighter hole" kind of mentality or preference or all they above?
In the ECCIE threads where people talk about worst provider/hobbyist experiences 80% of them had to do with a bad Greek experience.
Two cents
BL Originally Posted by lovesbustyblondes
1. The Bunny Ranch in Nevada in 30+ years has NEVER EVER had a reported STD case! Let that sink it. Why is that you ask? Because every girl working on any given week in a Nevada brothel because it's regulated and taxed by the State of Nevada must be tested EVERY WEEK by a licensed doctor.What you wrote is untrue, deceptive, or both. Many providers at the Bunny Ranch undoubtedly have had HPV and herpes and some have passed them onto customers.
(Source: http://www.bunnyranch.com/news/all-c...l-condoms.html)
The Bunny Ranch and all Nevada brothel providers get tested WEEKLY for HIV, herpes, genital warts, syphilis, gonorrhea and the clap. Even the most tested Porn Stars in California are only tested once a MONTH. The vast majority of people in the USA have never even had one STD test or maybe one there whole adult life.
Originally Posted by lovesbustyblondes