He was just kidding...

We now have enough oil in America that we don't need Middle Eastern oil. As for the argument that Yemen is left to itself - well, they want to be a sovereign nation, let them be. If their pirates mess with a US flagged carrier, blast their heads off. If it is the carrier of another nation that receives the taxes on the boat, let them deal with it.
If we don't get paid for it, we shouldn't be responsible for it. Originally Posted by DSK

This has gone beyond oil. That has always been the leftist excuse for dealing with the Middle East, the oil. The Muslim terrorists are coming this way and it is not about oil. That is 20th century thinking. We have fewer available carriers now than we did 20 years ago (I assume you mean AIRCRAFT carrier). We have already lost ships to priracy because we refuse to act. A frigate or destroyer could easily deal with pirate ship and as for a base, just like in the early 19th century we just send in the marines and a MARG. That is, if we had leader that didn't have his head up his ass.

Is this the Canal BigKotex was NOT pulled out of? Originally Posted by gnadfly

I think he was NOT pulled out of this one. I hope this one wasn't his destination!!!

I think the United Nations, not the United States, should police the world. We cannot save everyone, and we will go broke trying. Originally Posted by DSK

Does the U.N. have a "police force"? Does the U.N. have a military?

Does the U.N. have a source of funding to generate the expense money?

Barleycornball posts Iran has fallen to ISIS, and his butt sniffers fall into line. Originally Posted by i'va biggen

You don't read too well dipshit. Iran and ISIS are part of the same group just like Hezbollah, Hamas, Bocha Harem, etc. Remember your history, even Israel had at least two groups fighting for independence. Some of them committed massacres and others used states craft. You miss the obvious and claim that everyone is getting into line. Why are you in line understanding the world?

We now have enough oil in America that we don't need Middle Eastern oil. Originally Posted by DSK

Ok.

Ok. Originally Posted by LexusLover

I'm glad I was able to convince you. If you look at supplies, they are at an all time high. Known sources of oil abound in the states, and the ability to extract is phenomenal. Production is still growing, though that growth should slow once momentum is overcome.
If, as JD says, it is about Muslim terrorists, I share his concern. Keep them out of the United States if they are radical. We could accomplish this by making the price of applying for citizenship match the cost of a thorough FBI investigation of each person attempting to come here. We can handle a few non radical Muslims coming here each year as citizens.

This has gone beyond oil. That has always been the leftist excuse for dealing with the Middle East, the oil. The Muslim terrorists are coming this way and it is not about oil. That is 20th century thinking. We have fewer available carriers now than we did 20 years ago (I assume you mean AIRCRAFT carrier). We have already lost ships to priracy because we refuse to act. A frigate or destroyer could easily deal with pirate ship and as for a base, just like in the early 19th century we just send in the marines and a MARG. That is, if we had leader that didn't have his head up his ass. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

I was referring to commercial shipping. If you flag your oil or cargo carrier in Liberia to pay less in tax and wages, let the Liberian Navy save your ass.

Does the U.N. have a "police force"? Does the U.N. have a military?

Does the U.N. have a source of funding to generate the expense money? Originally Posted by LexusLover

Essentially, it is overfunded by the USA, because we are chumps about it. We should force more participation from other countries.
Bill Clinton understood this, and made a profit off the first Gulf War. Bill will make Hillary do the same.

Whir-LIE-turd, I am positive you need to march right into your local Army recruiter and sign the fuck up!

YOU are the only person qualified to out an end to the world's madness.

Wait a second, fuck the Army, you need to be riunning for president. As you point out numerous times a day, even a Muslim Kenyan who hates America can do it. Why not you?

We should get started on that exploratory committee instantly. You don't want Teddy Cruz to dominate the IDIOT vote, do you?

WHIR-LIE-TURD 2016
Because we can't handle the truth

Got A ring to it, eh?

:lmao:

I'm glad I was able to convince you. If you look at supplies, they are at an all time high. Known sources of oil abound in the states, and the ability to extract is phenomenal. Production is still growing, though that growth should slow once momentum is overcome.
If, as JD says, it is about Muslim terrorists, I share his concern. Keep them out of the United States if they are radical. We could accomplish this by making the price of applying for citizenship match the cost of a thorough FBI investigation of each person attempting to come here. We can handle a few non radical Muslims coming here each year as citizens. Originally Posted by DSK

PRICE OF CITIZENSHIP?

Where have we heard THAT before?

You don't read too well dipshit. Iran and ISIS are part of the same group just like Hezbollah, Hamas, Bocha Harem, etc. Remember your history, even Israel had at least two groups fighting for independence. Some of them committed massacres and others used states craft. You miss the obvious and claim that everyone is getting into line. Why are you in line understanding the world? Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Then Iran fighting ISIS in Iraq is just committing suicide? Eating their own?

PRICE OF CITIZENSHIP?

Where have we heard THAT before? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Didn't JLIdiot once make a similar claim?

Speaking of JL, his last Eccie login was on 02-20-2015 @ 05:23 PM.

I wonder what he's been doing in Dallas to bide his time?

Any thoughts?

Iran is moving in on Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Algeria, Tunisia, and eventually Afghanistan.

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Great Map JD; you got one of the region PRE-OBAMA? Originally Posted by Whirlaway

The map is bullshit. Iran has no influence in Northern Africa. Why are Jordan and Egypt included (but not Syria)? Jordan and Egypt have very pro-Western rulers, King Abdullah and Pres. el-Sisi (no thanks to Obama, who favored the disastrous Muslim Brotherhood). Look, Obama is doing enormous damage to our foreign policy in the Middle East and elsewhere. No need to hype or distort the problem with bullshit maps.

I'm glad I was able to convince you. Originally Posted by DSK

You didn't. Don't worry. And you and I probably will not agree. When I recognize a commodity is necessary and has a limited/finite quantity, I tend to hoard, particularly when the commodity will not be depleted by "spoilage." Then when my competitors piss through theirs and see the "bottom of the barrel," we can sit down and have a chat. And personally, in my negotiations it has always been my experience that when I'm "holding the goods" the results are customarily better for my side of the equation.

Give me one good reason why we want to deplete our own resources and then have to sit down and beg for someone else's at a price that doesn't further wreck our economy? Because "we" might expend 3,000 to 4,000 lives keeping the flow going?

And before you get all teary eyed, "we" expend about 50,000 lives a year pissing it off!~

The map is bullshit. .... No need to hype or distort the problem with bullshit maps. Originally Posted by lustylad

That looks similar to the ISIS map ... their goal. Iran will get the spoils when they win.

Then what are you doing to do? They have no regard for life, the Earth, or integrity.