Trump should tweet hardball questions like "How many of these Dems are for open borders?" and the like so the moderators are forced to ask them. Pin them in a corner. Originally Posted by gnadflyexcept that pins Trump into a corner.. anybody can talk about closing the Border, building a Wall, but the reality is illegals crossing into the US is at an all-time high, under Trump's watch. as he might say himself.. "the highest rate of Venezuelans, more Colombians than in recorded history. more Countries represented in the ranks of illegals than ever"!
And who will pay for it all? If you have a job, and are a law abiding citizen, you will.
This is the biggest vote buying scheme ever.
Our Founding Fathers warned that this Republic would survive untill the voters realized they could vote themselves free largess from the public treasury.
We just might be there. Originally Posted by Jackie S
except that pins Trump into a corner.. anybody can talk about closing the Border, building a Wall, but the reality is illegals crossing into the US is at an all-time high, under Trump's watch. as he might say himself.. "the highest rate of Venezuelans, more Colombians than in recorded history. more Countries represented in the ranks of illegals than ever"!
this is simple rhetoric, nothing more. nobody has been paying for the 20+ trillion dollar debt.. taxes can't pay for a fraction of what the Nation spends. it is created money from the Federal Reserve that does the real spending. sure they collect real money when they sell Government Bonds, but the interest paid is simply rolled into more National Debt. the "scheme" is working.. inflation is barely a blip, in fact, the Fed Chairman is worried inflation is TOO LOW.
the Republic has been giving out free money for Decades.. what is it about today, that makes you think more free money will collapse the Republic? Trump doesn't agree with you, his deficits are the largest in history. what happened to all the Republicans who used to pound the table for a balanced budget? Originally Posted by Chung Tran
do you think there would be record numbers if the Democrats .. who have said in the past border security was an issue .. now suddenly decided it's not? they are stonewalling efforts to stem the flow. they own the record numbers, not Trump.no, both sides are at fault, but you insist on giving Trump a pass. remember how he was going to remand all these illegals back to their host Countries? bullshit.. he was all bluff. just like Mexico paying for the Wall.. just like "lock her up", he hasn't done shit about Hilary's crimes.
not under Trump's watch .. under deliberate TREASON by the Demonrats. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
no, both sides are at fault, but you insist on giving Trump a pass. remember how he was going to remand all these illegals back to their host Countries? bullshit.. he was all bluff. just like Mexico paying for the Wall.. just like "lock her up", he hasn't done shit about Hilary's crimes. Originally Posted by Chung TranWell, Mexico is now spending money securing their southern border and if Congress doesn’t pass a bill by Friday Trump will start deporting. And Chungster, 400 miles of wall will completed by next year. You were wrong about that too.
Well, Mexico is now spending money securing their southern border and if Congress doesn’t pass a bill by Friday Trump will start deporting. And Chungster, 400 miles of wall will completed by next year. You were wrong about that too. Originally Posted by bambinoMexico is spending a little, granted, after a recent threat. but they are not paying for the Wall.. I will believe the 400 miles by next year when it happens, Trump has said so much lying shit about illegals and Walls, I have to discount almost all of it.
no, both sides are at fault, but you insist on giving Trump a pass. remember how he was going to remand all these illegals back to their host Countries? bullshit.. he was all bluff. just like Mexico paying for the Wall.. just like "lock her up", he hasn't done shit about Hilary's crimes. Originally Posted by Chung Tran
Mexico is spending a little, granted, after a recent threat. but they are not paying for the Wall.. I will believe the 400 miles by next year when it happens, Trump has said so much lying shit about illegals and Walls, I have to discount almost all of it.A little? 6000 troops on their southern border? If the USMCA passes, it’s a positive for the US. I never took Trump literally when he said Mexico would actually write a check for the wall. You must be naive to think that’s what he meant.
deporting? ha! Trump said, oh, 10 days ago, that "millions" would be deported next week.. oh, never mind, only 2,000. oh never mind, let's see if Pelosi gets something passed in the next 2 weeks.. fuck.. deport the 2,000, damn it. wishy-washy Bullshitter. Originally Posted by Chung Tran
you insist the Democrats are not stonewalling this. and Trump never said Mexico was going to "write a check" for the wall. there's video of what he really said. and you know that. Originally Posted by The_Waco_KidI didn't say the Dems were not stonewalling. they are, that's why I said both sides were at fault. that's the problem with you hardcore rightists, you refuse to accept counter argument on its face, you have to spin the other side to make your invalid points.
I didn't say the Dems were not stonewalling. they are, that's why I said both sides were at fault. that's the problem with you hardcore rightists, you refuse to accept counter argument on its face, you have to spin the other side to make your invalid points.
I know Trump didn't say "write a check".. never said he did say that. nobody is paying for the Wall. how is Mexico paying? I don't think they are paying at all. Originally Posted by Chung Tran
I never took Trump literally when he said Mexico would actually write a check for the wall. You must be naive to think that’s what he meant. Originally Posted by bambinoneither did I.. why do you think I believe he did? I have written nothing that would remotely suggest I thought Trump meant that. even Waco knows that. try to argue rationally next time.
if you agree the Dems are stonewalling, how is Trump at fault, even partially?nope.. 50-50 for now. Trump had other avenues, but he bailed.. appropriating other funding sources, to use for the Wall. Trump decided to skip that idea. he has not been persuasive in his crisis arguments. Trump believes traffickers, Drug Lords and Rapists are the problem, Democrats think Leadership breakdowns in Venezuela and its neighbors, are the source of the problem. when 2 sides are that far apart, on the root cause, no wonder the crisis continues. but Trump could be remanding these people back home, like he promised.. instead he warehouses people, hoping to deter the next wave. remember early in his Presidency, when Trump and the Right touted the idea that illegals were afraid to try and come, now that Trump was in charge, they were too afraid? that is so funny to think about now.
was his rhetoric too tough for the snowflake Dems??
wanna go 99% Dems 1% Trump and cut your losses now? Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
neither did I.. why do you think I believe he did? I have written nothing that would remotely suggest I thought Trump meant that. even Waco knows that. try to argue rationally next time.wrong again. he has tried to redirect funds. guess what happened? Liberal judges blocked it in court.
nope.. 50-50 for now. Trump had other avenues, but he bailed.. appropriating other funding sources, to use for the Wall. Trump decided to skip that idea. he has not been persuasive in his crisis arguments. Trump believes traffickers, Drug Lords and Rapists are the problem, Democrats think Leadership breakdowns in Venezuela and its neighbors, are the source of the problem. when 2 sides are that far apart, on the root cause, no wonder the crisis continues. but Trump could be remanding these people back home, like he promised.. instead he warehouses people, hoping to deter the next wave. remember early in his Presidency, when Trump and the Right touted the idea that illegals were afraid to try and come, now that Trump was in charge, they were too afraid? that is so funny to think about now. Originally Posted by Chung Tran