SL, The Answer to Your Question Was Already Implied in My Statement and Everyone Who Posted in Your Thread Understood This But You. My Question To You and Others is Why Wouldn't you Want Your Daughter to be a Sex Worker?

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Interesting you feel you can speak for "everyone". If you're talking to me you're welcome to show in my original post where I said or even implied that I speak for anyone but myself. I'll wait...Implying something and answering a question are two different things. Are they? Please feel free to tell me how so. Additionally you should know by now I will answer or not answer on my own time, not because you try to bully me about it by posting some co-ed thread.On more then one occasion you have both implied and shared your thoughts with a flora of multi syllable vernacular You really have a problem with me being particularly literate don't you? You keep bringing it up you poor dear. Nice action on the "flora of multi syllable vernacular BTW. See? It's not so hard SL!! You can do it! depicting a world you live in that encompasses the hobby along with the real world where one reading might conclude there are streets of gold and rainbows with cotton candy being spun out of every vagina. Where penis tastes like lollipops and banana splits don't make you gain weight. Again, you're welcome to show me where I said or implied that worldview. I'll wait. That's your "perception" of how I view the world. And even if that were correct, why do you appear to have a problem with that? Why would you have a problem with me having a happy and privileged life SL? Or like me, does it just not fit into the elaborate fairy tale you've made up about sex workers?I just happen to know better but I guess it's all about perception. It sure is as proved by this incredibly assumptive paragraph you wrote.

Nothing that my children will ever do will stop me from loving them. NOTHING! Neat-O. Only a sociopath would feel differently so this is neither interesting nor special. I would support them in what ever their life choices might be. My daughter NEVER found the need do you think all of us providers "need" to be here hahaha? Naw, she'll just be a wife and exchange the pussy for a ring and a house and some reasonable security Amiright? Because that's different and more respectable Amiright? to hit the pole or become a hooker and if I got as much pussy as my son you guys would never hear from me again!Sure. And he's never wanted or bought a nice car/apartment/clothes, never took a girl to a nice restaurant or bought her flowers to get that pussy either right? Originally Posted by Still Looking
Geesh SL, give me a challenge one of these days.
Geesh SL, give me a challenge one of these days. Originally Posted by Miss Valentina
Excellent job of filleting and searing........

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Originally Posted by Still Looking
Interesting you feel you can speak for "everyone". If you're talking to me you're welcome to show in my original post where I said or even implied that I speak for anyone but myself. I'll wait...Here you go sugar britches:

SL, The Answer to Your Question Was Already Implied in My Statement and Everyone Who Posted in Your Thread Understood This But You. My Question To You and Others is Why Wouldn't you Want Your Daughter to be a Sex Worker?


Implying something and answering a question are two different things. Are they? Please feel free to tell me how so.
Be happy to help you out! I'll use our interchange here in COED. You might think I give a rats ass what you think. It might be implied because I'm responding. But if I tell you I'm only flirting or really I could care less what you think. That would be a statement and NOT subjective or up for interpretation. If I imply then you can only speculate!

Additionally you should know by now I will answer or not answer on my own time, not because you try to bully me about it by posting some co-ed thread. Having not met me you can only speculate based on what you've read here and what you gleam asking other providers about me. I always try and be a gentleman. I do have a CODE: I don't play basket ball with a retarded kid and call double dribble. It's just not right. I could but it's just not right! Like low hanging fruit. Why would I bully you?

On more then one occasion you have both implied and shared your thoughts with a flora of multi syllable vernacular You really have a problem with me being particularly literate don't you? You keep bringing it up you poor dear. Nice action on the "flora of multi syllable vernacular BTW. See? It's not so hard SL!! You can do it! Almost like were flirting...... NO? Me problem with you being literate? Not at all. I just think it's sad you feel so insecure that you feel it necessary to communicate in this manner trying to elevate yourself above the majority of the board members here. or have you not noticed most here us +!1, heh, huh, WTF? OMG! or a Or is there another hidden agenda? Please don't tell me your not communicating on the level of the person you are communicating?

depicting a world you live in that encompasses the hobby along with the real world where one reading might conclude there are streets of gold and rainbows with cotton candy being spun out of every vagina. Where penis tastes like lollipops and banana splits don't make you gain weight. Again, you're welcome to show me where I said or implied that worldview. I'll wait. You sure like giving me tasks don't you? I'll allow it for now... you fucking think were married?!

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Originally Posted by Camille Fox
SL is correct, there are not many out there. But they exist. From my perspective, a gent is considered a time waster when he books my time, while contacting 2 other ladies and, as I am sitting at my incall, I get a request for a reference check for said gent, I clear him because I am not going to be mean, but I already know what's about to happen: NCNS... That's a time-waster.

Everyone else, things happen, and I've been lucky to have very considered gents in my life.


Wow!!! That is some MKUltra level bullshit female subservience mind conditioning when you actually think that not helping a man fuck you over is being "mean".

Here's what I consider a "Timewaster". Strap the fuck in.

Unremarkable and uninteresting men I've never yet met who want me to text them sexy conversations, photos, or want me to make them feel desired for free. This is a business. I'm a business woman here and in the real world. I monetize everything.

# 1.If you're not already on a friendly basis with a provider, the best time to contact a provider is when you're serious about making an appointment very, very soon.
# 2. The second best time to contact a provider is...--fuck that shit, there is no second best time. See # 1

Cancellers. One and your done of you're not an established client who I know and trust. Unless you want to pay my cancellation fee. Which is the cost of the original time booked. I don't give people second chances to waste my time and money. My bullshit detector is on fleek kids. I know when you're lying.

Timewasters are also people who come here with chauvinistic pathologically primitive simian super-egos having per-conceived narratives about what providers and/or women should be. I might just take the time to tear those down. I might take the time to run some MKUltra level mindfucks of my own on those asses just for the fun of it.

Other providers here who think just because I share the same profession and same gendered genitalia that I owe them something. I will not divulge my business secrets because you want to buy me a cup of coffee or sent me an email. I took my lumps and if you want to know how I do what I do??? Pay a bitch otherwise you're wasting my time.

Men who email "RU Available" or "Busy?" The answer is No and Yes respectively. I'm always busy because I have a full and adventurous life filled with radness every minute of every day. Taking punches to the squish mitten is the smallest most insignificant facet of my bitchin' life. You had 5 thousand ways to approach me and this is the best you could do? Good clients understand that genuine enjoyment is the service I offer and and all the delights and pleasures you can dream of can be unlocked by you not starting off immediately by being a dumb timewasting douche.

My business is a benevolent dictatorship. I put my requirements and things I don't do right there in my profile and ads for your benefit and mine. If you do not bother to read them, or read them and do not provide what I require or worse, you don't even have it and you think you can manipulate me around it, you are a waste of time.

The jabbering cartoon weasels who need cutting out the side of their homes to be winched and craned onto flatbed truck for their midnight Taco Bell runs talking about bringing scales to appointments. I have a flamethrower mounted to my truck with your names carved into the barrel with my Bowie knife. I'm sure there are ladies who need that money so desperately they're willing to take it from hypocrites. I ain't one of 'em.

It sure is a man's world. That's why I'm obliged to be better looking, run faster, be stronger, get up earlier, make more money, be smarter, better educated, traveled, and better read, be wittier, more compelling and badder-ass, genuinely kinder and harder working than the average male just to survive independently but even more so to survive at my pampered level. Chances are I'm your superior in every single exigent metric. Self-emasculated man babies quake in their boots or want to kick you down for this. These are the real Timewasters. Other men are like "Fuck Yeah Get Yours!" Those are dudes I like.

The peasant minded hive brains talking about price manipulation and other idiocies trying to convince providers or other men here for that matter that one must capitulate to their ridiculous status quo. Here's a hint, you fucking don't. Anyone who tries to convince you otherwise is a timewaster. And also a bloviating chest pounding primate. Usually.

Successful providers/business women here leverage their assets and know where and who their niche market is and go after it. I have rarely had a less than awesome experience, I almost never have occasion to write anything of my own in Infoshare. That is by design. Up with fools I do not put.

The real coveted man who I am fortunate to call clients or will be proud to call clients in the future is the man sitting back laughing saying "Look at this little shit go!". Not so much for the Timewasters. Lucky for me, there many, many real great wonderful men here. Those non-timewasting men who want to see you do well and see you on your way and want to spend a little top quality time together. That super fucking awesome client??? We always seem to find each other.

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That's your "perception" of how I view the world. And even if that were correct, why do you appear to have a problem with that? Why would you have a problem with me having a happy and privileged life SL?
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Or like me, does it just not fit into the elaborate fairy tale you've made up about sex workers?I just happen to know better but I guess it's all about perception. It sure is as proved by this incredibly assumptive paragraph you wrote.

Nothing that my children will ever do will stop me from loving them. NOTHING! Neat-O. Only a sociopath would feel differently so this is neither interesting nor special. I would support them in what ever their life choices might be. My daughter NEVER found the need do you think all of us providers "need" to be here hahaha? Naw, she'll just be a wife and exchange the pussy for a ring and a house and some reasonable security Amiright? Because that's different and more respectable Amiright? to hit the pole or become a hooker and if I got as much pussy as my son you guys would never hear from me again!Sure. And he's never wanted or bought a nice car/apartment/clothes, never took a girl to a nice restaurant or bought her flowers to get that pussy either right?


Given the choice I'm pretty sure most woman would choose NOT to suck dick for a living!


Geesh SL, give me a challenge one of these days. Originally Posted by Miss Valentina
Sure you want to do this???
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The good people of Eccie who are familiar with my posting (including you) are welcome to tell me when I've ever walked away from a challenge.

So the answer to your question about "Am I sure I want to do this?" (all the while blustering that you're not a bully btw pffft.) is a resounding YOU BET. I just keep waiting for a semblance of an argument from you. All you've done is quote what I've already stated. You conveniently left off the part when I said your daughter is a whore and your son was paying for pussy in their own individual way which was the only interesting and challenging part of this boring and tedious exchange.

As for this incredibly un-profound proposition "Given the choice I'm pretty sure most woman would choose NOT to suck dick for a living!" I might remind you we are all sucking someone's dick in this world. Additionally women and men can be incredibly jealous of a sexual woman's unapologetic sexuality. We represent all the luscious sins they haven't the courage to commit and in the man's case, the sins he cannot access solely through his entitlement. This pisses the crybabies right the fuck off.

You should just quit this thread and go pretend to be a dragon or something.
The good people of Eccie who are familiar with my posting (including you) are welcome to tell me when I've ever walked away from a challenge.

So the answer to your question about "Am I sure I want to do this?" (all the while blustering that you're not a bully btw pffft.) is a resounding YOU BET. I just keep waiting for a semblance of an argument from you. All you've done is quote what I've already stated. You conveniently left off the part when I said your daughter is a whore and your son was paying for pussy in their own individual way which was the only interesting and challenging part of this boring and tedious exchange.

As for this incredibly un-profound proposition "Given the choice I'm pretty sure most woman would choose NOT to suck dick for a living!" I might remind you we are all sucking someone's dick in this world. Additionally women and men can be incredibly jealous of a sexual woman's unapologetic sexuality. We represent all the luscious sins they haven't the courage to commit and in the man's case, the sins he cannot access solely through his entitlement. This pisses the crybabies right the fuck off.

You should just quit this thread and go pretend to be a dragon or something. Originally Posted by Miss Valentina
"All you've done is quote what I've already stated."

P.R.E.C.I.S.E.L.Y.

The ad nauseam bumping of old threads and/or the chucklehead smilies with nary a word,much less comprehensible thought out comment......
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If Valentina would post a couple of taint photos I might actually read her postings. I am not sure but I thinck she wants SL to father a child.
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The good people of Eccie who are familiar with my posting (including you) are welcome to tell me when I've ever walked away from a challenge.
Easy to say when the majority of the members here choice not to communicate with you as they haven't a clue what you are saying. I high lighted below in RED pffft. Is that a word or the sound that your pussy makes after getting air relentlessly pounded into it during your bump and grinds?

So the answer to your question about "Am I sure I want to do this?" (all the while blustering that you're not a bully btw pffft.) is a resounding YOU BET. I just keep waiting for a semblance of an argument from you.
I'm not interested in "arguing" with you. I really do have better things to do with my time. And I don't need to bully you or make you look bad, you do that to yourself. Like when I mentioned why you feel you can talk on behalf of "everyone". Then when I pointed out that you stated that in the title of the thread you choose to move on. No acknowledgement that you fucked up and that what I pointed out was correct. You just move along....brilliant.

All you've done is quote what I've already stated. You conveniently left off the part when I said your daughter is a whore and your son was paying for pussy in their own individual way which was the only interesting and challenging part of this boring and tedious exchange.
How about we leave our children out of this "exchange". Unless you have personal knowledge of my children all you can offer is speculation and conjecture. My children are not defined by my life choices nor am I by theirs.

As for this incredibly un-profound proposition "Given the choice I'm pretty sure most woman would choose NOT to suck dick for a living!" I might remind you we are all sucking someone's dick in this world.
Not literally!

Additionally women and men can be incredibly jealous of a sexual woman's unapologetic sexuality.
Jealous? A sluts a Slut? Never met anyone jealous of a "slut". Perhaps you can share?

We represent all the luscious sins they haven't the courage to commit and in the man's case, the sins he cannot access solely through his entitlement. This pisses the crybabies right the fuck off.
OMG! It doesn't take courage to suck dick. It's a life choice you freely make. Obviously one you are not proud of as you hide you identity and face. You're lazy and it's easy money for you. Now with your morals (If in fact you have any) tucked away you try to justify and glamorize sucking dick.

You should just quit this thread and go pretend to be a dragon or something. Originally Posted by Miss Valentina
I'm super busy pretending to be a Man Whore. But thanks for the advise. I think we can all agree you have an education and command of the English language. How about you stop making yourself look like a fucking idiot by forcing the mods to keep and open browser on DICTIONARY.COM Perhaps try and communicate so the masses will understand what you are saying. Or do you have another agenda? You can do that can't you? No one will think less of you. Or is this a mechanism you feel justifies what a glamorous "cock sucker" you are?

Let the games begin. You have my undivided attention!
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"All you've done is quote what I've already stated."

P.R.E.C.I.S.E.L.Y.

The ad nauseam bumping of old threads and/or the chucklehead smilies with nary a word,much less comprehensible thought out comment...... Originally Posted by Observing
What was wrong with your OLD HANDLE?
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Your word wall of refutations to my above points are nothing but strawmen, ad hominem and other logical fallacies while avoiding any compelling topic that may be of any real interest. I feel like you have a list of the same tedious uninteresting insults and keep them in in your back pocket to whip out at every challenge. You're super redundant and most horribly of all; goddamn it SL, you're not funny.

I'm super busy pretending to be a Man Whore. But thanks for the advise. I think we can all agree you have an education and command of the English language. How about you stop making yourself look like a fucking idiot Yawn by forcing the mods to keep and open browser on DICTIONARY.COM Ah, well, I know one mod personally and he's wicked smart. I don't know the others but I wouldn't condescend to assume to say they need a dictionary. I trust in their capability. Perhaps try and communicate so the masses will understand what you are saying. I communicate to my target audience. They understand me perfectly well. And why would you think that me believing that people are capable and intelligent enough to understand me is a negative. Oy vey. Shut up about my vocabulary already. You've done beat that horse to death and now your climbing up on it to dry hump the corpse. You just cant stop being boring. Or do you have another agenda? Sure. Why don't you completely make up something ridiculous in your mind and tell me what that is? Mansplaining, after all, is your modus operandi You can do that can't you? No one will think less of you. Or is this a mechanism you feel justifies what a glamorous "cock sucker" you are? Ad hominem. I don't feel that way about myself. You just keep making things up because you have nothing of substance to work with.

Let the games begin. You have my undivided attention! Originally Posted by Still Looking
" I'm not a bully because I say I'm not. Pay no attention to what I'm actually doing" (yawn)

You keep saying "Do I want to do this?"' And, "Let the games begin." but you haven't posted anything but logical fallacies and unintelligible blithering . All these years and all that experience and "perception" and this is the burlap sack of bullshit you brought to the table.The best you can do is unoriginal and unexceptional insults. For the love of Christ if all you're going to do is insult at least make an attempt at humor.

For example:

Have you ever seen a cat vomit? That's what SL looks like when he's fucking. Probably.

I mean, from what I hear, an appointment with SL is like blowing a hobo for a can of rat stew.

You just keep presenting layers of obfuscation on top of dick brain.Why you think its my obligation to hang around for you to inflict your mundane and plebeian insults is beyond my cognition. Bring a decent argument, or some decent humor, or go toddle about and annoy some other adult.

Continuing this wearisome dialog with you implies I think you have something interesting to say.

You don't.
You are so right, Valentina. This was some mansplaining at its finest.

"I think we can all agree you have an education and command of the English language. How about you stop making yourself look like a fucking idiot by forcing the mods to keep and open browser on DICTIONARY.COM Perhaps try and communicate so the masses will understand what you are saying."

Please don't use your education and command of the English language. You know it makes you look like a fucking idiot. Now, THAT was funny.

Sl, you need to quit while you are behind. I could have saved you a lot of time and told you that engaging Valentina with your usual tactics was not gonna serve you well. But, sometimes you just gotta see for yourself. I understand.

And do you really not see that you accusing Miss V of posturing and grandiosity is a bit ironic coming from you? How many times in the course of this conversation alone have you said something like, Are you SURE you want to do this? As if you are winning. You're not. You and Whispers bluster about on here with that grandiose attitude and nothing but tired insults to back it up all the time. And yet, you think Valentina is too big for her britches? Her writing is actually terribly precise despite her use of less mundane language, and extremely entertaining to boot. I'm gonna call this game. Miss V all the way.
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My viewpoint on this is that I would not want my daughter (or, in theory, son for the matter) to be a provider...but not because I see something morally wrong with it. What I would want for her (just my perspective - not going to force it on her) is to have: a master/phd in something, a 6 to 7 figure job doing something she loves, and conveniently making more money than she could possibly spend, and so attractive that she's have people fawning over her and standing in line to talk to her when she goes out.

If she chose (for simplicity or whatever) to patronize the hobby as a client, I wouldn't think any less of her or love her less at all. I absolutely would not want her coerced, or forced, into providing by financial circumstances. If, however, that was her choice (and hopefully she would be safe about it), at the end of the day, she's still my daughter and makes her own choices, which I would respect. But, like many others, I want better for her than her old man - I don't want her to be a sorry old ugly troll that needs to pay for it.

Thankfully, in my case, she really takes after her mother, so I don't think "ugly troll" is anywhere in the cards for her.
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Two very thoughtful and damned entertaining posts.

Much appreciated!
My viewpoint on this is that I would not want my daughter (or, in theory, son for the matter) to be a provider...but not because I see something morally wrong with it. What I would want for her (just my perspective - not going to force it on her) is to have: a master/phd in something, a 6 to 7 figure job doing something she loves, and conveniently making more money than she could possibly spend, and so attractive that she's have people fawning over her and standing in line to talk to her when she goes out.

If she chose (for simplicity or whatever) to patronize the hobby as a client, I wouldn't think any less of her or love her less at all. I absolutely would not want her coerced, or forced, into providing by financial circumstances. If, however, that was her choice (and hopefully she would be safe about it), at the end of the day, she's still my daughter and makes her own choices, which I would respect. But, like many others, I want better for her than her old man - I don't want her to be a sorry old ugly troll that needs to pay for it.

Thankfully, in my case, she really takes after her mother, so I don't think "ugly troll" is anywhere in the cards for her. Originally Posted by Luvdatpuddy
I feel you luvtapuddy. If I had a daughter it wouldn't be my first choice as well. Wasn't my first choice for myself, and I don't see this as the last thing I will ever do. It was something of a stop gap measure. But, that being said, lots of jobs are stop gap measures. I have two degrees; had a career I once loved, but then came to hate. I suppose I could have chosen another way to make money while I pursued what I want to do next, but I chose this one. Either one would have simply been a way to make money while I pursue another thing. I chose the one that maximized my free time to income potential ratio because that is what was important to me.

I don't think anyone is rhapsodizing about what this is, or at least I’m not, but the opposite end of that pole, and seemingly the insult of all insults and the way to win an argument around here is "at least I'm not sucking dicks for a living". My problem is the level of hypocrisy involved in that sentiment. You guys choose to do this. If you hate yourself for it or think it’s somehow bad for women or your own personal integrity, then, for god's sakes, make a different choice. This whole thing exists for ya'll. Women have no need to pay for sex. We all know this. Without the male desire for it, it simply wouldn't be here.

What confounds me is the attitude of some men who gleefully participate, but then disdain the women who give them the service they need/want. It's a woeful double standard mired in centuries of assessing a woman's value based on her sexuality or sexual purity. There is an argument to be made and has been made by many progressive feminists and academics that prostitution can be an act of reappropriating that value.

Honestly, whether or not I believe that or not depends on the day. I know that it has not been the worst thing in the world to do for me. Far from it. It has shocked me how not terrible, for the most part, it has been and how not guilty I feel about it. In fact, it has taught me quite a bit, and I will carry both the positives and negatives about this profession with me onto to the next thing when I go. Certainly, no one does this outside of a financial consideration. No one does any job outside of a financial consideration. If I had my way, I would be living on a beach in Fuji.
There is often a harboring of secret hatred for those who provide escapist pleasures.

"Oh that movie sucked."

"Oh that actress is too skinny"

"Hoez are lazy and are only good for sucking dick"

Waaah waah waah.

It is human nature and super easy for anyone to become dissatisfied; especially when they have everything at their disposal and "their life is perfect" *wink wink.

... all the better to seduce them...
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Ah talks in ways thet e'en a brand-spankin' new Funck & Wagnalls dickshunary wuldn't hep tha mods a-figger out whut Ah'm a-sayin' an' Ah ain't no fukin' idjut. Hell, Ah ain't had no sexy-time wif a real-live womb-man in 'bout a year! Ah wish Ah wuz a fukin' idjut!