- gnadfly
- 07-03-2014, 09:46 PM
Hopefully Global warming continues and the scam stops.
- JohnnyCap
- 07-03-2014, 09:47 PM
Anybody who thinks the limited time humans have had the ability to measure and record climate patterns is great enough for a reliable test sample is dangerously arrogant.
- Mr MojoRisin
- 07-04-2014, 12:01 AM
You dumb fuckers are sinking in your own bullshit. Take a deep breath. Originally Posted by i'va biggenI think it's you who's sinking in Bullshit. New Orleans is 13 feet below sea level and in some places it's even 20 ft. and it hasn't flooded since Hurricane Katrina. If Global warming was really causing sea levels to rise to any significance a city like New Orleans would experience significant flooding every year.
Jim
- Yssup Rider
- 07-04-2014, 12:13 AM
What about the Maldives, Jim?
- Mr MojoRisin
- 07-04-2014, 12:30 AM
- Sidewinder
- 07-04-2014, 12:56 AM
- Chica Chaser
- 07-04-2014, 03:38 AM
I think it's you who's sinking in Bullshit. New Orleans is 13 feet below sea level and in some places it's even 20 ft. and it hasn't flooded since Hurricane Katrina. If Global warming was really causing sea levels to rise to any significance a city like New Orleans would experience significant flooding every year.Only because the levees haven't broken again since Katrina.
Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin
- Guest040616
- 07-04-2014, 03:44 AM
- nevergaveitathought
- 07-04-2014, 04:56 AM
Manmade Global Warming is the foundation of all liberal thought. Originally Posted by Jewish Lawyer
I think the base of liberal thought may well be the "perfectibility of man"
A case can be made that their push of manmade global warming is a grand artifice meant to support and give ration to their more common means to attain this perfect man or now their term would be "person"
- LexusLover
- 07-04-2014, 05:21 AM
I think the base of liberal thought may well be the "perfectibility of man"... Originally Posted by nevergaveitathoughtIt's philosophical foundation is the perception that all "other people" are uninformed and intellectually inferior, to the level that it is imperative the "informed and intellectually superior" liberals make their decisions for them.
To assure dominance (or at least pursue it) addiction to "entitlements" is built into the government's financial plans and environmental disasters are explained in "scientific terms" as being caused by those same "uninformed and intellectually inferior" people, who the liberals believe must be regulated.
One can see it permeating posts on this board .... where labels are put on other posters in an attempt to paint them as ignorant and stupid .... with repetitive remarks ... in an attempt to legitimate the accusations.
- i'va biggen
- 07-04-2014, 06:44 AM
I think it's you who's sinking in Bullshit. New Orleans is 13 feet below sea level and in some places it's even 20 ft. and it hasn't flooded since Hurricane Katrina. If Global warming was really causing sea levels to rise to any significance a city like New Orleans would experience significant flooding every year.
Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin
Only because the levees haven't broken again since Katrina. Originally Posted by Chica ChaserI think this answered you.
- Mr MojoRisin
- 07-04-2014, 07:35 AM
- gnadfly
- 07-04-2014, 11:53 AM
It's philosophical foundation is the perception that all "other people" are uninformed and intellectually inferior, .... Originally Posted by LexusLoverDimtards like to falsely portray Republicans as "anti evolution" while in the same breath decry "survival of the fittest" and "preserving the unpreservable stasis of the earth."
- IIFFOFRDB
- 07-04-2014, 12:15 PM
- IIFFOFRDB
- 07-04-2014, 01:11 PM
The Truth comes out!
http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/craig-...-field-science
Apollo Astronaut: Climate Alarmism Is the ‘Biggest Fraud in the Field of Science’
July 2, 2014 - 4:01 PM
By Craig Bannister
"Since about 2000, I looked farther and farther into it," Col. Cunningham (USMC, Ret.) tells MRCTV in an exclusive interview. "I found that not one of the claims that the alarmists were making out there had any bearings, whatsoever. And, so, it was kind of a no-brainer to come to the conclusion."
Cunningham rejects the notion of man-made climate, not only as fact - but also as even qualifying as an actual "theory":
"In the media, it was being called a theory. Obviously, they didn't know what it means to be a theory."
"If we go back to the warmist hypothesis - not a theory, but, a hypothesis - they've been saying from the very beginning that carbon dioxide levels are abnormally high, that higher levels of carbon dioxide are bad for humans, and they thought warmer temperatures are bad for our world, and they thought we were able to override natural forces to control the earth's temperature. So, as I've looked into those, that's the problem that I've found, because I didn't find any of those to be correct - and, they certainly were not a theory, it was just their guess at what they wanted to see in the data they were looking at."
Cunningham urges Americans to look at the data and decide for themselves, instead of taking anyone else's word for it:
"You go out and take a look at it and you find out that a lot of it is pure nonsense and wishful thinking on the part of the alarmists who are looking for more and more money to fall into their hands."
"Don't believe it just because your professor said it. You gotta go take a look at it. Go back and look at the history of temperature and carbon dioxide, and you look at the value of carbon dioxide, and how it's a benefit today."
Astronaut Walter Cunningham
Astronaut Walter Cunningham in the Apollo era.
Cunningham notes that, while climate alarmists are concerned that the atmosphere currently contains 400 parts per million of CO2, that's only a tenth of the level his spacecraft had to reach before causing concern. In his Apollo craft, an alarm would go off when CO2 reached 4,000 parts per million and, in today's space shuttle, the trigger is 5,000. And, in submarines where crewmen may be on three-month missions, CO2 has to reach 8,000 parts per million before the alarm is activated.
"In one area after another, we find these people overly concerned about, one, the danger they're trying to push on us and, secondly, the claim that we can somehow or other control the earth's temperature by affecting it," Cunningham says.
"I can't say we don't have any impact, at all, but it'd be so miniscule and so tiny, that it wouldn't be worth any effort."
So, what does dictate the Earth's temperature? Cunningham says it's well-established that "principle controllers" are natural forces like sun, ocean temperature, and even volcanic activity.
Thus, he calls climate alarmism "the biggest fraud in the field of science":
"The case is, to me, really, it's laughable to find somebody who claims to be a serious scientist - that he would buy into this. So, I would really question anybody who claims to be a scientist doing this - so, what they do is try to control the nomenclature."
"To me, it's almost laughable, it's the biggest fraud in the field of science, certainly in my lifetime, maybe the biggest one in centuries."
"If you go back and you look at the data that has been well-documented over the years, you can look and see, for example, that right now both carbon dioxide and temperature are simultaneously at one of the lowest levels in at least the last 600-800 million years. The last time they were both together at this low a level, more or less, was 300 million years ago, and if you go back go back about 500-600 million years ago, carbon dioxide was 15 times higher than what it is now. So, what I'm getting at is this, the history shows you that most of this is just plain nonsensical today."
"And, the amazing thing to people like me... is that there are people that believe the nonsense they're being fed."
The media are largely to blame for public misconceptions - not because they're intentionally misleading the public, but because they "just don't want to go into the time and trouble to find out." "If they do go into it and look at it for themselves, they become a lot more neutral in their presentation," he says.
Worst of all, Cunningham says, media are promoting the "nonsensical" claim that there's scientific consensus accepting the hypothesis of man-made climate:
"When they're out propagating this so-called 97% of scientists believe we're controlling the temperature - I mean, that's the most nonsensical, stupid number in the world - and all they have to do is do a little research on Google - I'm not going to do it for them - go in there and take a look and you find out that's a ridiculous statement that people are making - and even the president makes a statement like that."
"If you have a totally anonymous survey of real scientists involved in this field, I would almost guarantee you that you going to have a majority that are not going to agree with the alarmists."
"I can only tell you that, even back in the days of Apollo, we didn't have to face this kind of nonsense," Cunningham concludes.
Editor's Note: Watch the Heartland Institute's 9th International Conference of Climate Change streaming live July 7-9, 2014 from Las Vegas, Nevada on CNSNews.com.
http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/craig-...-field-science
Apollo Astronaut: Climate Alarmism Is the ‘Biggest Fraud in the Field of Science’
July 2, 2014 - 4:01 PM
By Craig Bannister
"Since about 2000, I looked farther and farther into it," Col. Cunningham (USMC, Ret.) tells MRCTV in an exclusive interview. "I found that not one of the claims that the alarmists were making out there had any bearings, whatsoever. And, so, it was kind of a no-brainer to come to the conclusion."
Cunningham rejects the notion of man-made climate, not only as fact - but also as even qualifying as an actual "theory":
"In the media, it was being called a theory. Obviously, they didn't know what it means to be a theory."
"If we go back to the warmist hypothesis - not a theory, but, a hypothesis - they've been saying from the very beginning that carbon dioxide levels are abnormally high, that higher levels of carbon dioxide are bad for humans, and they thought warmer temperatures are bad for our world, and they thought we were able to override natural forces to control the earth's temperature. So, as I've looked into those, that's the problem that I've found, because I didn't find any of those to be correct - and, they certainly were not a theory, it was just their guess at what they wanted to see in the data they were looking at."
Cunningham urges Americans to look at the data and decide for themselves, instead of taking anyone else's word for it:
"You go out and take a look at it and you find out that a lot of it is pure nonsense and wishful thinking on the part of the alarmists who are looking for more and more money to fall into their hands."
"Don't believe it just because your professor said it. You gotta go take a look at it. Go back and look at the history of temperature and carbon dioxide, and you look at the value of carbon dioxide, and how it's a benefit today."
Astronaut Walter Cunningham
Astronaut Walter Cunningham in the Apollo era.
Cunningham notes that, while climate alarmists are concerned that the atmosphere currently contains 400 parts per million of CO2, that's only a tenth of the level his spacecraft had to reach before causing concern. In his Apollo craft, an alarm would go off when CO2 reached 4,000 parts per million and, in today's space shuttle, the trigger is 5,000. And, in submarines where crewmen may be on three-month missions, CO2 has to reach 8,000 parts per million before the alarm is activated.
"In one area after another, we find these people overly concerned about, one, the danger they're trying to push on us and, secondly, the claim that we can somehow or other control the earth's temperature by affecting it," Cunningham says.
"I can't say we don't have any impact, at all, but it'd be so miniscule and so tiny, that it wouldn't be worth any effort."
So, what does dictate the Earth's temperature? Cunningham says it's well-established that "principle controllers" are natural forces like sun, ocean temperature, and even volcanic activity.
Thus, he calls climate alarmism "the biggest fraud in the field of science":
"The case is, to me, really, it's laughable to find somebody who claims to be a serious scientist - that he would buy into this. So, I would really question anybody who claims to be a scientist doing this - so, what they do is try to control the nomenclature."
"To me, it's almost laughable, it's the biggest fraud in the field of science, certainly in my lifetime, maybe the biggest one in centuries."
"If you go back and you look at the data that has been well-documented over the years, you can look and see, for example, that right now both carbon dioxide and temperature are simultaneously at one of the lowest levels in at least the last 600-800 million years. The last time they were both together at this low a level, more or less, was 300 million years ago, and if you go back go back about 500-600 million years ago, carbon dioxide was 15 times higher than what it is now. So, what I'm getting at is this, the history shows you that most of this is just plain nonsensical today."
"And, the amazing thing to people like me... is that there are people that believe the nonsense they're being fed."
The media are largely to blame for public misconceptions - not because they're intentionally misleading the public, but because they "just don't want to go into the time and trouble to find out." "If they do go into it and look at it for themselves, they become a lot more neutral in their presentation," he says.
Worst of all, Cunningham says, media are promoting the "nonsensical" claim that there's scientific consensus accepting the hypothesis of man-made climate:
"When they're out propagating this so-called 97% of scientists believe we're controlling the temperature - I mean, that's the most nonsensical, stupid number in the world - and all they have to do is do a little research on Google - I'm not going to do it for them - go in there and take a look and you find out that's a ridiculous statement that people are making - and even the president makes a statement like that."
"If you have a totally anonymous survey of real scientists involved in this field, I would almost guarantee you that you going to have a majority that are not going to agree with the alarmists."
"I can only tell you that, even back in the days of Apollo, we didn't have to face this kind of nonsense," Cunningham concludes.
Editor's Note: Watch the Heartland Institute's 9th International Conference of Climate Change streaming live July 7-9, 2014 from Las Vegas, Nevada on CNSNews.com.