P411 New Policy

Wow, I agree on privacy although some sound a tad paranoid. This only matters the first time you see provider not repeat (I would hope). You could always send a code word while setting up appt. from p411. When you show up you give code word.

Not married or have so, but understand need for privacy and worry of exposure, but everyone talks about how they prefer providers who are safe.

Safe sex, diseases, state and location of incalls, smoking, and high/low volume, all come up about providers, why not ones who check refs, or verify in some way that their meeting who it is supposed to be.

I don't think there's going to be one way that's the only way.


as for so finding a photocopy of id with white-out info in you wallet, if so is going through your wallet you probably have a problem(I know,I don't know)

Idea?

Maybe implement a safeword when first joining p411..
during the initial verification process,
(kinda like Date-Check)
that the hobbyist couldn't access(to view or change) in his own account ,
but that the provider could see once a request for appointment or prescreening has been sent..
Then the provider could just ask them what their safe word is...
of course, this only works with compromised accounts, not guys "sharing" accounts"..
maybe then you just have to go back to the good old fashioned old school
screening where you just ask for a description from their references....heehee
see, no ID needed
.....just a thought

In the near future, we plan to allow clients to have a badge that says they are Identification Check friendly, or not. Still figuring out the particulars. Originally Posted by GinaXXX

That T-Shirt thing is starting to look pretty good now isn't it!

I think I just solved the problem...

What a bother! Does anyone think a p411 account makes a person safe? Dream on.

What a bother! Does anyone think a p411 account makes a person safe? Dream on. Originally Posted by Mossman

I feel safe. Class outfit! I haven't always just been able to say "this is SL' and have the flood gates open. LOL Lets not forget that there are ladies on P411 that are not on ECCIE. Need to keep my options open! IJS

I've never had anyone ask for the Id or card with those 4digits, it could be a credit card, ymca membership, anything in your wallet... Per the instructions when signing up. If a provider plans on asking for that, she should inform the gent ahead of time and he can decide if hhe's comfortable with that.

For those that "never had anyone ask for the ID..." (which includes me), that is why Gina reissued the recommendation recently, to make providers (and clients) aware of it and to explain the problem prompting it.

The password/safeword idea does not work because the problem being addressed is guys sharing accounts (kind of a bait and switch by guys). So the one guy would tell the other guy the safe word.

Basically, there have been instances over the years where clients have been pressured to give up their screening information and accounts, including P411 account. Those accounts, established by very legitimate clients, were then used to caused harm to the ladies.

The only way a provider can be sure that she is dealing with the true owner of an account, is to see a driver's license with a photo of the person standing in front of her, the name as it appears in the P411 client id, and the DAY of birth matches the digit in the P411 client id.

I highly recommend that providers who plan to check identification let their clients know during the booking process, so the client can choose to decline if he wishes.

If you are a client who is uncomfortable showing a provider that information, I truly understand. I suggest covering up the other details, but please know there is a very good reason that the providers should at least attempt to make the match.

Always,
Gina

I can not live in fear of the unknown.I am so sorry for anything I have done or said.All I wanted was to have fun and make some friends and make ends meet but 200.00 Is not worth living in fear everyday..Just Me...Dezirie

Basically, there have been instances over the years where clients have been pressured to give up their screening information and accounts, including P411 account. Those accounts, established by very legitimate clients, were then used to caused harm to the ladies.

The only way a provider can be sure that she is dealing with the true owner of an account, is to see a driver's license with a photo of the person standing in front of her, the name as it appears in the P411 client id, and the DAY of birth matches the digit in the P411 client id.

I highly recommend that providers who plan to check identification let their clients know during the booking process, so the client can choose to decline if he wishes.

If you are a client who is uncomfortable showing a provider that information, I truly understand. I suggest covering up the other details, but please know there is a very good reason that the providers should at least attempt to make the match.

Always,
Gina Originally Posted by GinaXXX

I think its a great idea Gina. I've been impersonated so many times to skirt screening it's not even funny.

I've never had anyone ask for the Id or card with those 4digits, it could be a credit card, ymca membership, anything in your wallet... Per the instructions when signing up. If a provider plans on asking for that, she should inform the gent ahead of time and he can decide if hhe's comfortable with that. Originally Posted by Netx9

Nothing will take the place of diligent screening and gina's suggestion and use of p411 to check okays as well as confirm some personal info is just one of those tools, a great tool, but just one available. Safety first, set your screening rules and post them so we know and again, gents will decide on the risk reward.

Any respectful hobbyist should understand the need for a providers safety and as a result, their own. I have declined to see someone bc I found out they didn't screen!

Me personally, I love the idea that everyone gets reminded from time to time to make sure of who you are meeting.

I have had the good fortune to meet several ladies in social settings before setting an appointment with them. I have also had to go through the screening process with a few ladies, even with numerous reviews and P411 OKs.

It is a bit refreshing, to me, to know that a lady is so on top of her game that despite what I may tell her, she still cares enough to do a diligent TCB by making the reference checks on me.

It just makes me feel better about seeing the lady and most times has turned out to be an outstanding time for the both of us.

Just my dos centavos on a lazy Sunday afternoon.

I've never asked to see a guys I.D. if he is a P411 member or not... I'm very respectful of privacy and expect the same... Even though some guys cross those boundaries... Which, by the way always pisses me off.

I heard of a girl from a client who took a picture of his I.D. and sent it to her "sister" for safety reasons... I wonder if it was indeed her "sister" or perhaps someone else?

one question. Where do you pin the badge if you are already nekkid?

Flinde, you're the only person I know that shows up to the appointment nekkid.

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