The Let's clear up the confusion on TransDay communication Poll

So what, The bullshit your peddling is a form of intolerance that many people including the pope don't subscribe to. Your poll suggests a mistake, or incompetence, or just plain stupidity. Perhaps it's none of those things? Originally Posted by txdot-guy

First and foremost, I ain't no fan of the current Pope in any way shape or form. But insulting and offending what, a billion Christians seems in-band to you and yours?!? And what about the Muslims? What? You just figure you got lucky it didn't coincide with Ramadan or something?

BTW: Option #4) was for the shrug your shoulders, maintain some dignity and sweep it under the rug crowd.

First and foremost, I ain't no fan of the current Pope in any way shape or form. But insulting and offending what, a billion Christians seems in-band to you and yours?!? And what about the Muslims? What? You just figure you got lucky it didn't coincide with Ramadan or something?

BTW: Option #4) was for the shrug your shoulders, maintain some dignity and sweep it under the rug crowd. Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

You see you are making a huge assumption. Are there really a billion Christians who are insulted or offended by International Transgender Visibility Day? And the question your point seems to indicate is this. Why should any religious belief cause the government to discriminate against any other group.

The Holiday has been around for 15 years now and you want the government to dismiss it just because Easter happens to fall on the same day? Way to suppress someone else’s speech. Again why should you care about this at all?

You’re supporting the same kind of intolerance that occurs in Iran or Afghanistan against Christians or even other forms of Islam.

Y...You’re supporting the same kind of intolerance that occurs in Iran or Afghanistan against Christians or even other forms of Islam. Originally Posted by txdot-guy

So your saying team Biden got lucky they didn't pull their bullshit during a Muslim high holy celebration? Or are you saying 15>>2000? You sound like a peripheral Christian, which is similar to what a Cardinal said about O'Biden recently, when they called him a cafeteria Catholic.

Ya. Sure, You betcha. Christians are good folk and tolerant. If you follow it, even from afar, you will recall that some of the disciples had a checkered past. One in particular was the lowest of the low, a former tax collector. <shudder, shudder> You might even recall that one particular Jesus babe was a super early ancestor of this profession board type. They dang sure put up with a lot of cat-calling and ridiculous bullshit, without throwing their crap in other's faces.

Maybe you forgot the words spoken back then to the questionably desirable: Quite that shit and we're cool dawg.
I might have over hip-hopped the interpretation...

Seems there was some sort of messaging kerfuffle regarding TransDay falling on Easter and how it got mangled by the White House. So let's look at the root cause, so we can devise a move forward strategy.

Was it the results of:
1) Stupid or incompetent people in and around the White House
2) Stupid or incompetent people that voted for the current resident of the White House
3) A toxic brew of Both
4) Just a teensey communication error. Could have happened to anybody. Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

So your saying team Biden got lucky they didn't pull their bullshit during a Muslim high holy celebration? Or are you saying 15>>2000? You sound like a peripheral Christian, which is similar to what a Cardinal said about O'Biden recently, when they called him a cafeteria Catholic.

Ya. Sure, You betcha. Christians are good folk and tolerant. If you follow it, even from afar, you will recall that some of the disciples had a checkered past. One in particular was the lowest of the low, a former tax collector. <shudder, shudder> You might even recall that one particular Jesus babe was a super early ancestor of this profession board type. They dang sure put up with a lot of cat-calling and ridiculous bullshit, without throwing their crap in other's faces.

Maybe you forgot the words spoken back then to the questionably desirable: Quite that shit and we're cool dawg.
I might have over hip-hopped the interpretation... Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Well I happen to live in the United States of America where all religions are tolerated. Just because you don’t like the way I practice my religion or the people I tolerate doesn’t mean I can’t call you out on your own intolerance.

What are you trying to measure with this exercise in hate speech poll?

Well I happen to live in the United States of America where all religions are tolerated. Just because you don’t like the way I practice my religion or the people I tolerate doesn’t mean I can’t call you out on your own intolerance. Originally Posted by txdot-guy

... And then there's yer-own intolerance, to the fact
that WYID and me-self and a great number of Christians
might be offended by what Biden did.

... Seeing-as Easter is a Christian holy day and
Trans Visibility day, or whatever it's called - isn't.

#### Salty

... And then there's yer-own intolerance, to the fact
that WYID and me-self and a great number of Christians
might be offended by what Biden did.

... Seeing-as Easter is a Christian holy day and
Trans Visibility day, or whatever it's called - isn't.

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

Do you see me starting threads about religious intolerance, you do not. In fact the only thread I started about religion was about how religious conservatives were attempting to further take over the Texas legislature. I am not telling you how to observe your religious beliefs but I do not like it when you try to tell government how to oppress others. Freedom is for everyone not just the people who think and look like you do.

... And then there's yer-own intolerance, to the fact
that WYID and me-self and a great number of Christians
might be offended by what Biden did.

... Seeing-as Easter is a Christian holy day and
Trans Visibility day, or whatever it's called - isn't.

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

So you are offended by the fact that THIS year Easter happens to land on the same day as International Transgender Visibility Day. Do you know how the day of Easter is calculated. Let me educate everyone.

As a moveable feast, the date of Easter is determined in each year through a calculation known as computus (Latin for 'computation'). Easter is celebrated on the first Sunday after the Paschal full moon (a mathematical approximation of the first astronomical full moon, on or after 21 March – itself a fixed approximation of the March equinox). Determining this date in advance requires a correlation between the lunar months and the solar year, while also accounting for the month, date, and weekday of the Julian or Gregorian calendar. The complexity of the algorithm arises because of the desire to associate the date of Easter with the date of the Jewish feast of Passover which, Christians believe, is when Jesus was crucified.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_o...arch%20equinox).

So if nothing changes except for the year then you have no reason to be offended. In 2025 the President could give out the Proclamation on Transgender Day of Visibility, 2025 and it would not be on Easter Sunday then you would not be offended? What would you say if I was offended that Easter 2024 was on International Transgender Visibility Day? Technically Easter is the Holiday that changed days. Both positions equally logical and both equally Stupid.

What are you trying to measure with this exercise in hate speech poll? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Eye of the beholder

Well I happen to live in the United States of America where all religions are tolerated. Just because you don’t like the way I practice my religion or the people I tolerate doesn’t mean I can’t call you out on your own intolerance. Originally Posted by txdot-guy

I suspect you have some misinterpreted meanings associated with words and concepts. Let's explore a couple to be sure. BTW: The first one is a doozy, in that it's a transative verb, ironically enough.

From the good folk at The American Heritage® Dictionary

tolerate (transitive verb)
- To refrain from interfering with or prohibiting (something undesirable or outside one's own practice or beliefs); allow or permit.
- To recognize and respect (the rights, beliefs, or practices of others).
- To accept or be patient regarding (something unpleasant or undesirable)

consideration (noun)
- Careful thought; deliberation.
- A result of considering; an opinion or a judgment.
- A factor to be considered in forming a judgment or decision.

perspective (noun)
- A view or vista.
- A mental view or outlook.
- The appearance of objects in depth as perceived by normal binocular vision.

perception (noun)
- The process of perceiving something with the senses.
- An instance of this.
- The process or state of being aware of something.

intentional (adjective)
- Done deliberately; intended
- Having to do with intention.
- Done by intention or design

You know me by now. I'm a sucker for learning.
Take a moment to explain how your "tolerance" is developed with "consideration" or were you just winging it?

In the case of claimed "intolerance" can you give a reasonable example where someone said any or all forms of gay must be shunned, side lined, persecuted, dispatched or killed?

Would you be so kind as to explain how you "considered" your "perception" of a messaging kerfuffle morphing into "intolerance". That would be great

So you are offended by the fact that THIS year Easter happens to land on the same day as International Transgender Visibility Day. Do you know how the day of Easter is calculated. ... Originally Posted by txdot-guy

No to the 1st statement(?). The OP does not contain the word offended and that is not what kerfuffle means either. Yes to the pseudo question. I also know a question ends with a question mark.

You seems to have a "perspective" that the universe revolves around you and your beliefs. For that we have to go back to our bag-o-words at The American Heritage® Dictionary, as it seems to me your "religion" has the trappings of:

Existentialism (noun)
- A philosophy that emphasizes the uniqueness and isolation of the individual experience in a hostile or indifferent universe, regards human existence as unexplainable, and stresses freedom of choice and responsibility for the consequences of one's acts.
- A philosophical theory or attitude having various interpretations, generally emphasizing the existence of the individual as a unique agent with free will and responsibility for his or her own acts, though living in a universe devoid of any certain knowledge of right and wrong; from one's plight as a free agent with uncertain guidelines may arise feelings of anguish. Existentialism is concerned more with concrete existence rather than abstract theories of essences; is contrasted with rat...
- A twentieth-century philosophical movement emphasizing the uniqueness of each human existence in freely making its self-defining choices.

Actually, Britanica.com has a decent synopsis of that as well.

Let's look briefly at 2 charities and their charters:

Working to Reduce Poverty in America - Catholic Charities USA
Catholic Charities USA is a network of agencies that serve the poor and vulnerable, regardless of their faith...

That would also included the phrase; 'or lack there of' as well. Regardless, seems pretty ding-danged inclusive and tolerant to me.

The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence
...Since our first appearance in San Francisco on Easter Sunday, 1979, the Sisters have devoted ourselves...
Well... pretty much just gay related things. Not overly inclusive. Eh Comrade? But the real question is whether their founding day was "intentional" or merely an inability to calculate ye olde lunar cycle calendar.

So if you want to go beyond the base OP regarding the "messaging kerfuffle", we should really have asked a broader question of: was the WH messaging, yet another "intentional" slight of mainstream religion or a "just a teensey communication error. Could have happened to anybody."? But I cannot change how the OP was phrased though it seems to be how you "perceived" it..

The poll is ridiculous. My vote is for no fault on anyone. A day that was established 15 years ago for whatever purpose. Biden has recognized the day in the past and did so this year. It happened to fall on Easter Sunday through no fault of Biden. No one complained last year when Biden mentioned the day.

Again, a nothing-burger that no one would have complained about in a non-election year.

A day that was established 15 years ago for whatever purpose... Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Seems the programing is effective. The memory loss seems problematic. Certainly fixated on 15 years (talking point of the day) and losing track of how long 2 millennium is. Must be using the wrong end of the perspective binoculars.

We saw the respective sizes of the "official" proclamations and the timing of such. There is no fog to lift over here. When I count to three and snap my fingers, you will awake and feel refreshed. One...

In the spirit of your previous posts, I’ll point out that the plural of millennium is millennia.

In the spirit of your previous posts, I’ll point out that the plural of millennium is millennia. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Fair point. Either way, it's still about 730 thousand more days than 15 years. Two...

Seems the programing is effective. The memory loss seems problematic. Certainly fixated on 15 years (talking point of the day) and losing track of how long 2 millennium is. Must be using the wrong end of the perspective binoculars.

We saw the respective sizes of the "official" proclamations and the timing of such. There is no fog to lift over here. When I count to three and snap my fingers, you will awake and feel refreshed. One... Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Did you happen to read Trump's Easter message? This from a man who is hawking bibles to pay for his legal fees.

If you or anyone else think Biden's non-Easter statements were inappropriate, they don't compare to Trump's rambling statements.

“Happy Easter to all, including crooked and corrupt prosecutors and judges that are doing everything possible to interfere with the presidential election of 2024, and put me in prison, including those many people that I completely & totally despise because they want to destroy America, a now failing nation, like “deranged” Jack Smith, who is evil and ‘sick,’ Mrs. Fani ‘Fauni’ Wade”—her last name is Willis—“who said she hardly knew the ‘special’ prosecutor, only to find that he spent years ‘loving’ her, long before the Georgia persecution of President Trump began (and thereby making the case against me null, void, and illegal!), and lazy on violent crime Alvin Bragg who, with Crooked Joe’s DOJ thugs, unfairly working in the D.A.’s office, illegally indicted me on a case he never wanted to bring and virtually all legal scholars say is a case that should not be brought, is breaking the law in doing so, was turned down by all other law enforcement authorities, and is not a crime. Happy Easter everyone!”