You want me to be specific? I've been pretty specific and where were you?No it's not specific enough. How do you plan to pay for all this? Maybe you can cut taxes too. Or maybe eliminate taxes all together. That should pay for everything. And also since when does the President order NATO troops? American troops yes, NATO no. Hate to tell you JD, but it's easy being an "armchair president " harder to be the real thing. That is why former President's don't say much about the sitting President's. They have been there, done that.
Obama should immediately ask for a full declaration of war against ISIS...to the finish. I want all members of Congress on record on where they stand for the coming years.
Next thing is to start 24/7 airstrikes against ALL targets of opportunity and triple the number already in progress. That includes tanks, rocket launchers, armored cars, Humvees, trucks, sedans, tents, camels....anything that transports or hides a member of ISIS
I would move gunships (fixed and rotary winged) into the theater as fast as possible. Bush did it in 72 hours in 1990.
I would put boots on the ground, lots of boots because I haven't painted myself into a corner with my stupid mouth. I want 10,000 soldiers in Baghdad to defend it. That includes armor.
I would rush the 101st Airborne to Koboni. Bush did that in 36 hours in 1990.
I would remind Turkey of their treaty obligations and our money that they love so much. They have 12 hours to move up and defend Koboni or no more money or weapons.
I would publicly announce that Assad is off of the US's radar (the insurgents can deal with that later) until ISIS is dealt with.
I would surge 55,000 more American and NATO troops into Iraq by air and sea.
I would bring in a second carrier group to the Persian Gulf to support operations against ISIS. I would also send in a MARG (Marine Amphibious Readiness Group) as a spearhead.
I will hold what we have and I will take the fight to ISIS anywhere in the world. Since I believe, unlike Timmie, that ISIS will cross into our southern border, that border will be guarded from California to Texas by National Guardsmen....TODAY! Not tomorrow. If necessary I will empower local law enforcement to deputize civilians to assist.
I also want my CIA, my NSA, backed up by SEALs and HRT to find and rescue every western hostage being held.
I will revoke the citizenship of every cocksucker who leaves their home in the US to join with ISIS. They are enemies of the state and will recieve that treatment when found. No more Mirando bullshit. Wars should be fought as wars.
And.....If I can get enough of those assholes in one place I will authorize a MOAB to be dropped out their asses.
Specific enough? Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
No it's not specific enough. How do you plan to pay for all this? Maybe you can cut taxes too. Or maybe eliminate taxes all together. That should pay for everything. And also since when does the President order NATO troops? American troops yes, NATO no. Hate to tell you JD, but it's easy being an "armchair president " harder to be the real thing. That is why former President's don't say much about the sitting President's. They have been there, done that. Originally Posted by cowboyinjungle
Here is something for you to smoke; Turkey is a member of NATO and, like it or not, America leads NATO. Obama is working Turkey on the grounds of being a member of NATO to get them to lend their support. When has NATO not followed the United States. As for paying for it. Are you another one of those liberal idiots that is penny wise and pound foolish? You sound like it. If we don't face ISIS now we will face them in a few years. They will be bigger, stronger, and cost much more than if we face them now. You want to pay for this? Abolish Obamacare and save almost a trillion dollars for operations. The military is already getting paid, the aircraft, tanks, and ships are already paid for, the missiles are paid for and I'm pretty sure that we can get Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and UAE to kick in some billions. Originally Posted by JD BarleycornYou do know Turkey dislikes the Kurd's as much as ISIL don't you Judy?
Here is something for you to smoke; Turkey is a member of NATO and, like it or not, America leads NATO. Obama is working Turkey on the grounds of being a member of NATO to get them to lend their support. When has NATO not followed the United States. As for paying for it. Are you another one of those liberal idiots that is penny wise and pound foolish? You sound like it. If we don't face ISIS now we will face them in a few years. They will be bigger, stronger, and cost much more than if we face them now. You want to pay for this? Abolish Obamacare and save almost a trillion dollars for operations. The military is already getting paid, the aircraft, tanks, and ships are already paid for, the missiles are paid for and I'm pretty sure that we can get Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and UAE to kick in some billions. Originally Posted by JD BarleycornDo you actually believe the shit you post. So like it or not you don't control NATO troops. Good luck getting those other countries to kick in billions. You claim to have been in the military, and don't think we will be paying more in hazardous duty pay? You also think you don't have to resupply missiles and equipment that are being used? And as far as me being a "liberal idiot" , I don't consider myself a liberal or a conservative, I consider myself an American. If you want to be a conservative idiot, be my guest, you are good at that. My personal opinion is we stick our nose in the business of other countries to much. Half of you on here want to tell other countries what to do, but don't like it when the federal government wants to tell our states what to do. Most of our problems where started years ago by past administrations trying to micro manage other countries. And before you say I'm blaming Bush, I'm blaming all administrations for decades including Obama. And yes I know ISIS is not a country, but we shouldn't have been in Iraq in the first place. I have an idea, why don't we send all of you old farts that want to fight over there. You can use your own guns and ammo. Hell. we can even spring for airfare.
Do you actually believe the shit you post. So like it or not you don't control NATO troops. Good luck getting those other countries to kick in billions. You claim to have been in the military, and don't think we will be paying more in hazardous duty pay? You also think you don't have to resupply missiles and equipment that are being used? And as far as me being a "liberal idiot" , I don't consider myself a liberal or a conservative, I consider myself an American. If you want to be a conservative idiot, be my guest, you are good at that. My personal opinion is we stick our nose in the business of other countries to much. Half of you on here want to tell other countries what to do, but don't like it when the federal government wants to tell our states what to do. Most of our problems where started years ago by past administrations trying to micro manage other countries. And before you say I'm blaming Bush, I'm blaming all administrations for decades including Obama. And yes I know ISIS is not a country, but we shouldn't have been in Iraq in the first place. I have an idea, why don't we send all of you old farts that want to fight over there. You can use your own guns and ammo. Hell. we can even spring for airfare. Originally Posted by cowboyinjungleLet me break it down for stupid here. Those missiles should be replaced periodically. Better to shove them up someone's ass than that just tear them up for scrap. Yes, we do tell other countries what to do. There is no constitution protecting those other countries from the demands of another country. This is our problem or did you miss out on the beheadings or the threats against the US? Whether or not we should have been in Iraq is long past now. Deal with the present and forget about your Bush hating past. Before you fly us old farts over there, what branch did you serve in that allows you to belittle my and my fellow veterans service? As for the billions, did you know that Saudi Arabia offered billions to the US during the first Gulf War to help pay us a $1,000 a month bonus? I bet you didn't because you weren't there. They have the money and they want ISIS destroyed because they're bad for business.
Let me break it down for stupid here. Those missiles should be replaced periodically. Better to shove them up someone's ass than that just tear them up for scrap. Yes, we do tell other countries what to do. There is no constitution protecting those other countries from the demands of another country. This is our problem or did you miss out on the beheadings or the threats against the US? Whether or not we should have been in Iraq is long past now. Deal with the present and forget about your Bush hating past. Before you fly us old farts over there, what branch did you serve in that allows you to belittle my and my fellow veterans service? As for the billions, did you know that Saudi Arabia offered billions to the US during the first Gulf War to help pay us a $1,000 a month bonus? I bet you didn't because you weren't there. They have the money and they want ISIS destroyed because they're bad for business. Originally Posted by JD BarleycornLet me break it down for you stupid. You do know that Saudi Arabia beheads people all the time alot more than ISIS, Google it. And threats are made all the time. Bush bashing? I'm putting blame on all past and current administration's. And as far as your fellow veterans, please point out any belittling remarks. While I didn't serve I have nothing but respect for our men and women who did and still do. There's another cost of your war that you seem to not care about. All the solders who come back missing arms and legs or have head injuries. Or worst yet, they get sent back in body bags. I didn't know that you received $1000 a month bonus. So you were paid by the US, and took money from a foreign country? Seems to me that should have been illegal.
Let me break it down for you stupid. You do know that Saudi Arabia beheads people all the time alot more than ISIS, NOW THIS IS A LIE! Google it. And threats are made all the time. Bush bashing? I'm putting blame on all past and current administration's. And as far as your fellow veterans, please point out any belittling remarks. While I didn't serve I have nothing but respect for our men and women who did and still do. There's another cost of your war that you seem to not care about. All the solders who come back missing arms and legs or have head injuries. Or worst yet, they get sent back in body bags. I didn't know that you received $1000 a month bonus. So you were paid by the US, and took money from a foreign country? Seems to me that should have been illegal. Originally Posted by cowboyinjungleReading comphrehension is not your strong suit is it. I said that Saudi Arabia offered it, I never said that the US took it. YOU owe an apology to the military and George HW Bush who turned it down by saying that US soldiers were not mercenaries.
Reading comphrehension is not your strong suit is it. I said that Saudi Arabia offered it, I never said that the US took it. YOU owe an apology to the military and George HW Bush who turned it down by saying that US soldiers were not mercenaries.My reading "comprehension" is just fine. Maybe you need to take some spelling lessons. I owe nobody an apology. You never said the offer was taken or turned down. But you did write "to help pay us $1,000 a month bonus". You should have wrote "they wanted to give us $1,000 a month bonus." So maybe you should take some writing lessons too professor. I'm sure you wouldn't accept such sloppiness from your students.
by the way, Saudi Arabia does use beheading as a method of execution which is the punishment in their criminal justice system. ISIS is slaughtering people for being christians, soldiers, being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn