Some guys need to read this…

Sorry, Cendell. No beef, but I started this hobby before joining eccie. But after that it was a standard to us that GFE meant kissing and bbbj , Like you would do with a GF, but even some that have real world girlfriend will still suite up with intercourse, and that to me seems to be standard. As far as PSE well it goes without saying its as far as her or his limits and preferences. So the article you refer to seems to want to change the standards?? I'm not a big kisser though if I'm attracted and arouse enough I would like that, but no way can I deal with cbj!!! I might as well lube up, or find the best cover and self satisfy. I'm not poking or picking at you or your post. But I will stand firm on what I know and like, and hopefully the guys that's been around will do the same. Donations already have inflated and now the service is going to be downgraded?? So from the past those who offer PSE ask almost double GFE, so with the article that you refer then now it 4 times? Just for kissing or bbbj? And we are to donate to a conversation then get cbj with no kissing at the average rate at 3??? Hopefully there will be more proactive comments to see where this hobby verse is going, cause if that article is correct and that becomes the norm then OF and porn and is the way to go, or might as well start dating lol. Like I said No intentions or bad with you Cendell I find your post highly intriguing and intelligent, but the article to and may I think to speak up for the majority that has been around, Its is BS. Originally Posted by dat198

No I agree I also kiss and bbbj, I’m just making a point that the standard back in the day was what the article was about. I think guys have it real good theses days but still complain. I should have made that point in my post but that’s the point! Thanks for your post i appreciate it.

i didn't read any of this
>dateline 2020
outdated - prostitutes have changed their minds a dozen times on these terms and standards since the article was written. None of them can figure out what day it is or how to arrive on time anywhere, let alone know how to cater some experience,


You fuckers cant even agree on an industry standard for verifications. One month its p411, next month its NO ONE USES P411, then its send a pic of your drivers license, then its send a deposit, then providers refuse to give references......


so I'm just gonna say, "BLOW IT OUT YER ASS" Originally Posted by FatCity

if you didn’t read any of it then stay off my post because you’re out of line JERK

Kara,
Just some? Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter

Yes I say some because those like Pitroom and his Fan boy don’t know how good they really have it these days, those WERE the standards back in the day, they’re not the standard theses days and SOME still find something to bitch and whine about. That’s the point to this posting. I should’ve elaborated more

Ackshually
This thread is about (one) provider in a sea of millions that is defining "standards".
This is comical because providers cant even figure out the time of day least of all come to some quorum consensus of service.
If Petroom can find satisfaction in a woman, then theres hope for all of us Originally Posted by FatCity

You’re such a Fan Boy of Pitrooms it’s cute but stay with the topic

Whenever i see stuff like this, I just remember what my momma used to say

"No Cops, No AA, and no BB anything"

^^^^ No, the article does not want to change the standards. It wants to get back to the original standards and meaning before hobbyists changed them for their own benefit. Originally Posted by NordicJag

100% The hobbyist what us to change to fit his want's not the real GFE ..I i kiss & bbj

Good thing the clients decide what the standard is, they hear about that a hooker doesn't do what they want, he don't call her and takes his business $$$ to the ones that do it! Simple concept

For every guy that takes his money somewhere else theres 5 more bringing it, it’s not guys rules it’s our rules if you don’t like it yes they can go else where but our rules don’t change. ( speaking definitely for myself) kinda like deposits. Lol see how that works.

For every customer that takes their money somewhere else theres 5 more bringing it, . Originally Posted by Cendell M

Imagine any other business owner with this kind of hubris
https://youtu.be/4tZC_kuQEdw

Providers do what you do, but the contempt and apathy providers have for clients is ridiculous and why their cries cant be taken seriously

For every guy that takes his money somewhere else theres 5 more bringing it, it’s not guys rules it’s our rules if you don’t like it yes they can go else where but our rules don’t change. ( speaking definitely for myself) kinda like deposits. Lol see how that works. Originally Posted by Cendell M

That's the wrong attitude to have, charging deposits and not getting what they want, You heard the term there's one born every minute? Congratulations on picking them out.

Imagine any other business owner with this kind of hubris
https://youtu.be/4tZC_kuQEdw

Providers do what you do, but the contempt and apathy providers have for clients is ridiculous and why their cries cant be taken seriously Originally Posted by FatCity

The 5 to 1 ratio can't be correct from what I read over here, there can't be that many suckers in this hobby

Imagine any other business owner with this kind of hubris
https://youtu.be/4tZC_kuQEdw

Providers do what you do, but the contempt and apathy providers have for clients is ridiculous and why their cries cant be taken seriously Originally Posted by FatCity

No one’s crying here that’s how it goes sorry!

The 5 to 1 ratio can't be correct from what I read over here, there can't be that many suckers in this hobby Originally Posted by BLM69

Ok there not suckers, review boards are just the few % do you think we get all our business from just review boards no way there our websites Tryst Twitter where you don’t even review the ratio is probably more just saying….

I'm going to add that this board vaguely represents perhaps a couple percent of hobby. Maybe less than 1%.
At one point, the handful of east coast boards I was on, the normal rates were over 600, and that was close to a decade ago.
My point being, a few of you guys are embarrassing yourselves as to what is applicable in hobby. But if that's your thing...

I'm going to add that this board vaguely represents perhaps a couple percent of hobby. Maybe less than 1%.
At one point, the handful of east coast boards I was on, the normal rates were over 600, and that was close to a decade ago.
My point being, a few of you guys are embarrassing yourselves as to what is applicable in hobby. But if that's your thing... Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter

We're not on the East coast here in Texas, I can't imagine that eccie is less than one percent of the hobby in Texas, if it was that small, hookers wouldn't even bother with this site to find tricks. Experienced guys know better than to send deposits or settle for any BS.

We/The tricks control what's acceptable and who makes the $, no difference than any other industry, pussy is everywhere. I'll stand on what I said, only suckers support the nonsense