Jeffrey Epstein

Already starting with the “fake news” mantra. Wow.
Here’s the thing, aside from Clinton knowing Epstein, to the best of my knowledge there has been no allegation of him being involved with anything sexual. Trump however, yes.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/07/tru...nt-nyt-report/

The difference between me and Trump acolytes is I’ll say lock anyone up that was involved in it. If It’s Clinton, so be it. Trump supporters, I’m betting not so much.

I'm not smearing anyone, the news is out there on the subject.

Already starting with the “fake news” mantra. Wow.
Here’s the thing, aside from Clinton knowing Epstein, to the best of my knowledge there has been no allegation of him being involved with anything sexual. Trump however, yes.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/07/tru...nt-nyt-report/

The difference between me and Trump acolytes is I’ll say lock anyone up that was involved in it. If It’s Clinton, so be it. Trump supporters, I’m betting not so much. Originally Posted by himzert

Sheer innuendo. Your link is to a left-wing ragsheet. None of the women at that party 26 fucking years ago was even underage, let alone sexually abused. Your own ragsheet admits there were "no allegations of misconduct at the party".

Plus the original NYT story (which your fake-news ragsheet echoes, presumably because it has no real journalists on its own staff) contains the following:

"Mr. Epstein, who was charged on Monday in Manhattan with sex trafficking, is better known as a longtime friend of former President Bill Clinton’s than as a close associate of Mr. Trump’s. In fact, the relationship with Mr. Trump turned so toxic that Mr. Epstein at one point told friends that he blamed Mr. Trump for his legal problems with the Palm Beach County police."

I'm no Trump acolyte. I just despise professional Trump haters who are so lacking in fairness or integrity that they will stoop to any level to smear the guy without evidence - while covering up all the bad behavior on the left.

I'm not smearing anyone, the news is out there on the subject. Originally Posted by sexymaid_69

Yes, you are smearing Trump by falsely suggesting he participated in the same kind of activity as Epstein did.

The Pussy Grabber draws the line at 18. You didn't bother to make that clear. You just alluded slyly to "his part" in the Epstein scandal, whatever the fuck that means.

And while a number of women (not girls) have accused trumpy of kissing them on the lips without their permission (and without using tic-tacs first ) there are no credible allegations that he ever raped anyone.

Can't say the same for Slick Willy.

At no point had he made it clear he draws the line at 18. He didn’t draw that line when he bragged about how he got to go in the dressing room at the Miss TEEN USA pageant while they were undressed.
And he was already sued Staff Edit, Forbidden Topic. dj8 who said he was with Epstein. Not the first rape accusation. Not the last.
Also, what does the fact that they had a falling out have to do with what they did before the falling out?

Very likely Slick ("the Perv&quot Willie may be going down with him---26 trips? some without Secret Service? Why would a former President who has SS protection because it provides him cachet and manservants tell them to stay home while he travels on the Lolita Express if not for hanky-panky? Originally Posted by PhilLanders69

Trump was on the exact same airplane with Epstein, and called him "a great guy". Your point, if any? The whataboutalism is fucking staggering.

Thanks for the comments.

Long winded, yeah it was. Sometimes it takes me time to tell a story or ask a question.

The point, yeah it was a bit unfocused.

Coincidentally, two men in columbus were arrested in a nearby town for having sex with a underage who had been posting on name your price. She said she was 20.

Better check ID's from now on with any potential.

Epstein was friends or had dealing with many folks. I would suggest when your a billionaire, your going to be meeting a lot of people. It is funny how quickly clinton tried to separate himself. Maybe the angry dems think there is some possible link that they can go back door and get trump in some other manor.

My main problem with the whole me too, is there seems to be a lot of picking and choosing. I would guess any rock star prolly had more young tang than anyone could imagine. Movie stars, sport stars etc.


In the 60's and 70's I knew lots of high school and junior hi girls who dated guys over 18. And several who got pregnant. Back then where I lived, nothing was ever said.

I can remember older guys saying, if their old enough to bleed, they are old enough to breed.

I am not advocating it, just stating the attitudes at the time.

Already starting with the “fake news” mantra. Wow.
Here’s the thing, aside from Clinton knowing Epstein, to the best of my knowledge there has been no allegation of him being involved with anything sexual. Trump however, yes.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/07/tru...nt-nyt-report/

The difference between me and Trump acolytes is I’ll say lock anyone up that was involved in it. If It’s Clinton, so be it. Trump supporters, I’m betting not so much. Originally Posted by himzert

Clinton has already lied on this point. He said he took 4 trips with this guy all with secret service along but the flight logs reveal he has taken twenty, many of them to his private island.

One of the people that was recruiting women for Epstein is pictured sitting in the front row at Chelsea's wedding.

Im sure the Clintons are busy this morning doing what they can to scrub more of these photos from surfacing.

Libs, we know you hate Trump and that is fine but he was legally elected. Get over it already.

Trump was on the exact same airplane with Epstein, and called him "a great guy". Your point, if any? The whataboutalism is fucking staggering. Originally Posted by tannana

I suspect that there are many people that know each of us and would describe is a "A great guy (or gal)" that dont know we are whore mongers or whores. So what is your point?

With all the big names connected to Epstein, it wouldn't surprise me if he is found dead of a "suicide".

With all the big names connected to Epstein, it wouldn't surprise me if he is found dead of a "suicide". Originally Posted by DrivesAllDay

Of course not. In the post-Trump world, nobody cares about that stuff unless it's literally criminal. Seriously. He's going to die of a busted asshole from what happens in prison.

At no point had he made it clear he draws the line at 18. He didn’t draw that line when he bragged about how he got to go in the dressing room at the Miss TEEN USA pageant while they were undressed.
And he was already sued Staff Edit, Forbidden Topic. dj8 who said he was with Epstein. Not the first rape accusation. Not the last.
Also, what does the fact that they had a falling out have to do with what they did before the falling out? Originally Posted by himzert

Wow. Maybe it's time to dial back the anti-Trump hysteria and deal with facts - not falsehoods and innuendo. Trump would never harm an underage girl. Back in the 90s and early 2000s he was a frequent guest on the Howard Stern show. People tuned in every night hoping to hear something crude and lewd. That's what boosted the show's ratings. On one show Trump joked about being owner of the Miss Universe Pageant (he never mentioned Miss Teen USA) and how he could take dressing room "inspection" tours before pageants. He was playing to Howard Stern's audience, i.e. people like you. But hey, let's see if we can twist that story to create the false, slanderous and outrageous impression that the POTUS is a sicko pedophile like Epstein, right himzert?

And I'm glad you brought up that rape accusation lawsuit. It was complete bullshit. We even debunked it in the Political Forum way back BEFORE the election. Here is a long post you might find illuminating. Don't read it if you prefer to cling to your Trump rape fantasies, however.

https://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=105...5&postcount=22

Bottom line is - anyone can accuse me, you or the POTUS of anything. Your desperately wanting to believe something doesn't make it true.

Trump was on the exact same airplane with Epstein, and called him "a great guy". Your point, if any? The whataboutalism is fucking staggering. Originally Posted by tannana

I already made my points. Please try re-reading my posts out loud and slowly.

And it's called whataboutism, not whataboutalism.

Maybe you can get the mainstream media to put the same spotlight on Slick Willy the Perjuring Sexual Predator's relationship with Epstein that it is so eager to shine on Trump.

That would be a "fucking staggering" change for them, wouldn't it?

Thanks for the comments.

Long winded, yeah it was. Sometimes it takes me time to tell a story or ask a question. Originally Posted by Doctor Frankenstien

Well, I appreciated your OP comment. I wasn't aware of the relationship between Les Wexner and Jeff Epstein until I read your post. It turns out Epstein bought his 71st Street mansion in Manhattan from Wexner. And Wexner was the biggest client in his hedge fund. Wtf, I'll bet Epstein had backstage privileges at every Victoria's Secret runway show.

At least Wexner can afford to hire some top PR firms to contain the damage to his reputation.

Wow. Maybe it's time to dial back the anti-Trump hysteria and deal with facts - not falsehoods and innuendo. Trump would never harm an underage girl. Back in the 90s and early 2000s he was a frequent guest on the Howard Stern show. People tuned in every night hoping to hear something crude and lewd. That's what boosted the show's ratings. On one show Trump joked about being owner of the Miss Universe Pageant (he never mentioned Miss Teen USA) and how he could take dressing room "inspection" tours before pageants. He was playing to Howard Stern's audience, i.e. people like you. But hey, let's see if we can twist that story to create the false, slanderous and outrageous impression that the POTUS is a sicko pedophile like Epstein, right himzert?

And I'm glad you brought up that rape accusation lawsuit. It was complete bullshit. We even debunked it in the Political Forum way back BEFORE the election. Here is a long post you might find illuminating. Don't read it if you prefer to cling to your Trump rape fantasies
https://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=105...5&postcount=22

Bottom line is - anyone can accuse me, you or the POTUS of anything. Your desperately wanting to believe something doesn't make it true. Originally Posted by lustylad

The cognitive dissonance is astounding. I wasn’t aware though that the Political Forum at ECCIE had debunked the rape accusation. Well, holy shit. Congratulations guys. Let’s alert the media. Did you debunk all the times he’s been accused, including his own ex-wife Ivanka, or just that one? Cause that would be a lot of work. What about the most recent one? What about when he was caught on tape pretty much bragging about it?


https://www.politifact.com/wisconsin...ss-teen-usa-c/

"I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, ‘Oh my god, there’s a man in here,’ " said Mariah Billado, the former Miss Vermont Teen USA.

Trump, she recalled, said something like, "Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before."

Three other women, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of getting engulfed in a media firestorm, also remembered Trump entering the dressing room while girls were changing. Two of them said the girls rushed to cover their bodies, with one calling it "shocking" and "creepy." The third said she was clothed and introduced herself to Trump.