P411 is the gold standard both ways , in my opinion
Originally Posted by rexdutchman
I agree.
It is unfortunate that many providers have gone by the disinformation from providers and even other guys that have obviously not seen or even came close to setting up an appointment with guys for their screening and those guys they have dissed could have been great clients. Fortunately for me, I have had sessions with providers that used my p411 info and went with the ladies I have seen for sessions. Some of those ladies I have seen for sessions many times.