Showers... whats your take?

In the 'book club' book I'm reading, there is mention of the "ruby shower" involving a lady squatting over the person and unleashing her menstrual flow. (it was new to me, at least!) Originally Posted by ztonk

I'm intrigued... I've spoken with several providers on the subject of providing whilst on their cycle as of late. The conundrum is that you have all of this sexual energy pinned up during your cycle and no where to release it... Seems like a waste, especially if someone has a fetish for it...

Thoughts? Does it fall in the category of "extremely high risk behavior"?

I've never been attracted to brown or roman showers. However, there was this hot girl advertising for a slave but the slave would have to take her brown showers and consume; she made it pretty clear that she makes her slaves cum. I never called her because the thought of eating poo poo out of someone who showed me one internet pic just didn't do it for me. Now, truth be it told, if the pic was really her and she was that hot and knew how to manipulate me into it over time, maybe my answer would be different.

I've had golden shower and face sitting fantasies, but they're always directed at specific girls; for me the fantasy would be getting these treatments from a girl I already know rather than seeking out a girl because I wanted the service.

Thoughts? Does it fall in the category of "extremely high risk behavior"? Originally Posted by AidanMacKenna

This comment brought to mind the discussion of BBFS in the Arkansas Coed Forum:

First of all..some hobbyiest saying some girl offered him something for a certain fee is NOT an alert.. because that hobbyiest no matter who he is, how trusted etc etc etc.. saying someone said something can not be proven, doesn't make it true, and it would take more than one person directly hearing it and reporting it to even be worth a discussion.

hobbyiest all the time say a provider offered so and so.. sometimes to hurt that provider, sometimes just to create drama, sometimes in hopes of creating a competitive "attitude" with the provider he is with and its a safe way to test the waters without offending or asking the provider he is with for BBFS..you see if she respondes and offers it..score him..if she is appauled..its simply at the offending provider for offering it to him...

Fact is.. bbfs is pretty much happening all over

the one thing that gets slightly forgotten is the fact that providers have boyfriends, so's, husbands..that they in fact go bareback with.. there is no guarantee who that boyfriend is, how safe he is etc etc etc..

whether you are being paid..or giving it to a loved one.. ITS STILL BAREBACK!! and a hobbyiest wearing a condom is at just as much risk whether the guy that she barebacked is paying her to do so, or a personal relationship..

some need to venture out more.. BBFS is nothing new, those doing it most will never know about.. because the guys don't talk etc.. but hell hobbyiest bareback loved ones, providers do.. no one knows who that loved one is actually fucking.. i mean lets face facts.. if the hobbyiest is seeing me, he is cheating on his wife.. whats to say she ain't cheating on him and not using protection with her "friend" the husband goes home fucks his wife bareback..etc etc etc.

its a never ending cycle.. one that NO ONE can avoid as long as you are having sex.. because many of the hobbyiest are having unprotected sex..many providers have "relationships" in some form with a guy they think they can "trust" whether married or not.. and barebacking occurs.. its all a moot point.. people are bareback, paid or not, doesn't make it better or worse.. porn stars bareback all the time, do tours and hobbyiest see them, pay big bucks and wear what.. thats right a condom..
because in the end, all anyone can or is doing is relying on a thin piece of plastic.. your fucking and playing with women that see 1 or 2 men a day.. 3 or 4 times a week.. thats upwards of 8 men a week, 32 men a month.. condoms don't stop genital warts, doesn't prevent herpes of the mouth, syphillus and many other things you can get.. i mean seriously

bbfs..old news, it happens, not an alert since its heresy at best.. providers have personal livest they bareback in with god knows who.. the hobbyiest don't know the guy your fucking.. hobbyiest bareback people..we don't know..and in it all we are each playing with people for pay with people that see many people a week/month

if its to much to worry about.. no one needs to have sex.. otherwise all you can do is worry about your own safety, ensure the hobbyiest I see always wears a condom, and that i worry about my personal safety to the max.. if we all do that.. then we maximize our ability to to keep disease lower.. but we are all at risk Originally Posted by DeAnna Luv

oh for sure.. if you think you know which girls are offering bbfs..thats foolish, the smart ones usually offer it to guys they can trust not to talk, they have an agreement where basically she probably gets more money for her efforts..

its almost (sadly perhaps) career suicide to admit or advertise bbfs..does that prevent it from happening and/or girls making money off of it.. hell no..

at least give the girls credit that do openly advertise it.. the guys know which ones to avoid and perhaps the girls know which ones not to accept references from..

I have known in my years more than a few well known touring ladies that on occassion offered bbfs to special clients etc etc.. did i judge them..no, not for me to judge, their body, their money, their life.. i can simply only choose to make the guys they see wear a condom or refuse to see them.. nothing more nothing less.. as anything..this world is not regulated, only generally accepted practices.. so girls are pretty free to offer whatever they want for how much they want.. and there will always be clients willing to pay

fact is.. providers that will go bareback, prolly do so with a higher number of guys then the hobbyiest whom she went bareback with.. another words.. the provider may let 5 guys bareback her in 2 days.. but those 5 guys are prolly only getting to bareback that one provider.. much can be said that ya at that stage your simply being where the previous guy was so in essence you have etc etc.. but its just an example

whether good or bad, there is a negative stigma that follows it, which in effect keeps anyone from knowing who is doing it because of that stigma..

take into account that many hobbyiest and/or providers are swingers in the "real world" and often times actually more often then not.. bareback is strictly PREFERRED in the swinging lifestyle.. no negative stigma there..

for some reason, people associate being paid and barebacking with being unsafe, yet will fuck a guy they think they are in love with bareback and not know truly who that guy has been with..

i would trust a hobbyiest who doesn't wanna take home a disease to his wife long before i trusted some guy i met in the bar or at the club that i thought i loved Originally Posted by DeAnna Luv

I'm thinking that (if DeAnna is correct) in light of the fact that BBFS seems to be happening more than is known or admitted, Aiden's query about ruby showers being high risk behavior might be right on target.

In addition, in light of her comment concerning her discussions with other providers about that time of the month, I remember seeing one provider that advertised a limited menu for that period of time at a cut rate price. Probably not interesting to all hobbyists, but then again some income is better than none at all. I travel, and don't remember what city I saw this ad in...but pretty sure it was on the mother ship.

I've never practiced emetophilia (and do not participate in any kind of shower other than occasionally giving one of the golden variety), but I'm slightly curious as to how the giver might...incite...the shower. Any experienced practitioners care to chime in? Originally Posted by Miss Sophie Bella

I would love to hear some input from experienced "Roman shower givers" as well. Its an interesting topic... "Whats the best way to vomit on someone"?
My experience is lacking, but from the requests that I have had, their preference was for it to be on their stomach.... Is that common practice?

This is a topic that I have thought of bringing up and a big thank you for doing so!

I believe people (including escorts) do more of this then they let on. I have a little bit of the "mega-gross" factor going with the poop thing (guess that I could change my mind in time) but I'm very interesting in golden showers. Both sides.

My experience is barely worth mentioning so I won't. But I am looking forward to other stories and examples of both.

Elisabeth Originally Posted by ElisabethWhispers

EW, I had been debating on bringing this topic up for a few months now -- to be honest I was just a little apprehensive of how this thread may be taken by some people; but now that I've started it I'm glad to see so many chime in. I know there are some things in the escort/P4P world that though they do exist... many will try to avoid the topic (whether we admit it or not), just so were not tied to something that could be interpreted incorrectly and affect our business... So I thank all of you for your input.
Moving on
I too was kind of freaked out by the whole "poop thing" as well. When I got my first request, to be honest my first response was "You want me to do what, where"? However I have continued on my adventures in this kinkier side of the P4P world & I must admit I have done some crazy sh*t.... and loved every minute of it. Friends (provider/hobbyist & civilian) look at me like I'm crazy when I divulge some of my adventures. But I cant get enough. So I can somewhat get to a point of understanding as to why some hobbyists might want to play so "out of the box & in the bathroom". Not to say I want any kind of showers, because receiving is not my thing. But I'll give as many as "they" can take. Lol. On a more serious note.... you have to be insanely comfortable with your body to allow someone to watch & receive your, um, "goods". It can be a little awkward. :-)

Not yet Mistress Asia ,but I do love to roleplay alot my favorite Is Mommy dearest maybe I can incorporate them together LOL! I love having a dialog while acting out my fantasies . Originally Posted by loverman

Mmmm... Loverman I do love to role play. Do you dress up like your inner child as well? And are you a good boy, or does mommy have to make you behave?

I agree with you Elisabeth, I find that I have fulfilled more fantasies/desires in this Hobby, than I ever could in my Personal life. Even if it isn't advertised as an activity, it's sure asked/requested. The poop thing and vomit has never been appealing to me, even though I have seen videos of it. Golden showers, however, I have no problem doing, I just don't like it on the face or in the mouth. In the past I've had clients that got off on drinking piss, but hey whatever floats your boat....we all have our kinks even if some don't want to admit it. Originally Posted by MsKristine

So MsKristine.... I take it you receive golden showers as well? If so, may I ask.... coming from a woman's side (not just a providers pov) what do you feel when you are receiving a shower? I have had so many males tell me how good they feel & the feelings of intimacy they have... but I have yet to hear a woman's point of view. **Excuse me if I am being too personal**
Oh.... I've also had a lot of clients that really get off on drinking it as well; I don't quite understand that one. The only way that I'm ever drinking piss is if I'm trapped in the middle of the dessert somewhere with no hope of survival unless I drink my pee. Lol. Other than that you can forget it.

Asia, I don’t think sexual fantasies are taboo. People that say xyz or abc are taboo are being judgmental in my opinion. If someone wants a brown shower, then by all means they should have one. I personally don’t, but so what? You know?

Loverman, call me anytime you want to fulfill your fantasy. It’s hot! Or maybe……………..it’s hotter to watch Asia – She’s pretty fuckin’ hot herself. Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

I agree completely as well... unless your sexual fantasy involves hurting someone or yourself... Then I say go for it. Its a shame that society convinces everyone that if you & your desires don't conform to the "norm" then your a freak (and not the good kind). All I have to say is F*CK Society. You have only one life (depending of course on your beliefs)...so why not make the most out of it? Who wants to go on with life & regret not living out their inner most fantasies; especially when your involved in such an open minded community as this with so many willing participants.
Oh... & thanks for the compliment Olivia.... you're pretty damn sexy yourself!

As to the Golden Shower experience (I'm not into the other iterations...), I was with a provider who really wanted to give and receive and of course I had to experiment with her.... When she covered my groin, I found that it was oddly pleasant, but as it came from deeper within and was that much warmer, I felt a rush of pleasurable intimacy and deep longing for it when it ran out. Sort of like how people describe a Kundalini rush or something. Haven't encountered it again, but think of it as something I'd like to do definitely again, just don't know whether to ask as it's never mentioned on menus--are there are so many other delights one gets sidetracked with, LOL! But the lingering fascination is its different connected body, emotion, mind, eroticism... Originally Posted by Happy Tongue

I love how you described your desire.
Oh... and I'm pretty sure your provider of choice will shower you.... Just get out of her panties long enough to as her. lol.

In the 'book club' book I'm reading, there is mention of the "ruby shower" involving a lady squatting over the person and unleashing her menstrual flow. (it was new to me, at least!) Originally Posted by ztonk

Actually when I first got into the industry I started off with Porn; they asked if I was willing to do that (though I don't think it was called a ruby shower) but I was a newb so I said no. Not that I'm against it but... that's a messy one. However I do know this Dominatrix in Philly & she says she caters to that fetish quite often though. Some clients wait until her time every month & won't see her unless shes bleeding. So to each his own...

I'm intrigued... I've spoken with several providers on the subject of providing whilst on their cycle as of late. The conundrum is that you have all of this sexual energy pinned up during your cycle and no where to release it... Seems like a waste, especially if someone has a fetish for it...

Thoughts? Does it fall in the category of "extremely high risk behavior"? Originally Posted by AidanMacKenna

AidanMacKenna, here is a link that may help a little with the whole "sexual frustration on the cycle" thing....

http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=18544

IMO, this type of play could fall into the category of extremely high risk behavior if they were consuming the ruby shower. That would be grounds for some serious thought & testing before proceeding.

I've never been attracted to brown or roman showers. However, there was this hot girl advertising for a slave but the slave would have to take her brown showers and consume; she made it pretty clear that she makes her slaves cum. I never called her because the thought of eating poo poo out of someone who showed me one internet pic just didn't do it for me. Now, truth be it told, if the pic was really her and she was that hot and knew how to manipulate me into it over time, maybe my answer would be different.

I've had golden shower and face sitting fantasies, but they're always directed at specific girls; for me the fantasy would be getting these treatments from a girl I already know rather than seeking out a girl because I wanted the service. Originally Posted by Original Squeegie

Just ask and you may receive... Like many have mentioned, a lot more services are offered than one might think. The only way to know for sure is to ask your provider of choice and go from there. Plus a brown shower may be something you want to indulge in with a familiar face - but that's just my opinion.

This comment brought to mind the discussion of BBFS in the Arkansas Coed Forum:





I'm thinking that (if DeAnna is correct) in light of the fact that BBFS seems to be happening more than is known or admitted, Aiden's query about ruby showers being high risk behavior might be right on target.

In addition, in light of her comment concerning her discussions with other providers about that time of the month, I remember seeing one provider that advertised a limited menu for that period of time at a cut rate price. Probably not interesting to all hobbyists, but then again some income is better than none at all. I travel, and don't remember what city I saw this ad in...but pretty sure it was on the mother ship.
Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

I suppose Ruby showers deserves a thread all its own... Some providers work offering a limited menu, some offer a full menu & others don't work at all. The fetish itself I suppose is dependent on the provider and what they are willing to do as well as what the fetish is for that particular client is.

In the p4p world I have issues with showers. Foremost, I just spent +/- an hour making sure everything is sparkly clean. I limit food and drink before a date to make sure I don't need to excuse myself during the date. Second, I have a pretty balanced healthy diet, drink lots of water and non acidic juices, BUT I also drink coffee from wake up to fall asleep. I am incapable ofGolden Showers...maybe Goldenrod? Third, I spent 7 years as a 24/7 sub. A big part of that was regimentation. I go to the bathroom once a day @ the same time. Still.

Roman...I would really have to work on that. 24/7 for 7 years = "gag" control. Although I have been caught off guard so to speak. Ladies, if you are asked for a Roman, there's your method. Irrumatio. I suggest just eating close to date time. Or as part of. Having him choose the food/have an imput in might be an enjoyable aspect for him and a nice touch from you. Guys, be aware that a Roman might mistakenly happen and be cool about it.

Red Masque? Well, I see men. Many of my regulars have figured out that the days leading up to & during are the days I'm at my horniest, most sensitive and most swollen. i could not NOT work in that time if I wanted to. Hornier, wetter, tighter. What's not to love? Just love it well.

Asia quit teasing me and Olivia don't be surprise if I give you a call sometime .

I might regret this but wtf. No one here knows me, except you know who. And you already know how my mind works. I am not into the brown or red showers. Totally disgusts me, in fact. No way, Jose.

But I had the fantasy of being with a lady who was somewhat dominant. No whips and chains; no bondage; no calling me weird names or putting anything where the sun doesn't shine (that's another story). But we did alot of playing, which meant she took me to the edge and back often (or made me take myself to the edge and back often). I MEAN OFTEN. Like a million times.

I have a penchant for revealing all kinds of my fantasies when I am aroused to a point of drunkenness. And this night with this lady turned into one of those times. I admitted the idea of a golden shower intrigued me.

Next thing I know, I am "ordered" into the bathtub, where I am forced to take her golden nectar in my face and on my cock while stroking myself. I could have said 'No", but she made it clear if I did, we would stop playing, she would leave and that would be the end of that night's playing.

It was great. I'd do it again. With the right lady. I have met other ladies that I wouldn't want that to happen with no matter how excited I was.

I deny the veracity of this story to all who might read it. I am a fictitional character in my own mind.

From a purely technical point of view, Urine, when it comes out of the body, is sterile, unless there's a bladder infection. Poop is NOT. It can carry all kinds of nasty diseases.

Adenovirus
Campylobacter infection
Coxsackievirus (hand-foot-mouth disease)
Enteroviruses
E. coli infection
Giardia infection
Hepatitis A virus
Pinworms
Polio
Rotavirus
Salmonella
Shigella
Tapeworms
Toxoplasmosis

Just starting to explore deeper realms of the industry, I had to look up the definition of a Roman shower.
Wow, I'm not too sure if i could handle that. Golden/Brown showers are no problem for me (Giving) but the sound of "gagging" causes my stomach to grow weak.

In due time, you never know. I've been getting more and more extravagant requests by the day.

Thanks to the "Another Realm" section of Eccie and you guys with all your kinky thoughts. I'll be there in no time.

So MsKristine.... I take it you receive golden showers as well? If so, may I ask.... coming from a woman's side (not just a providers pov) what do you feel when you are receiving a shower? I have had so many males tell me how good they feel & the feelings of intimacy they have... but I have yet to hear a woman's point of view. **Excuse me if I am being too personal**
Oh.... I've also had a lot of clients that really get off on drinking it as well; I don't quite understand that one. The only way that I'm ever drinking piss is if I'm trapped in the middle of the dessert somewhere with no hope of survival unless I drink my pee. Lol. Other than that you can forget it. Originally Posted by amazingasia

AmazingAsia, yes I do but only do it with guys I trust. For me I like that warm sensation against my nipples and my clit, it is just a hot sensation that is so erotic feeling. I don't cum from it, but just love that Hot Spray Feeling! Now, I don't like it above the neck, it does nothing for me, but on the sensitive areas...Oh My!

So true, that would be the only way I'd drink it, stranded on an island.

Read more: http://www.drgreene.com/azguide/feca...#ixzz0jbmmBvjq

Roman showers are beyond me. Just being close to the sights, sounds, and smells makes me want to join in.
Originally Posted by Gurth

Well first to each his/her own- I think Golden are more popular then most people think, but I think most people don't admit to them- been on both ends of Golden nhave no issues with them as long as it's the last act that you do. as far as Brown-lol again to each his own it certaintly is a bit more freakier than golden. Now Roman is just something that to me takes a special person to do it- I mean someones vomit just would not sit well with me. Now for people who are in to extreme domination hey whatever floats their boat. However, whether it's a provider who does the service or hobbyist who enjoys those services I don't knock anyones fetish/fantasy if showers whether Goldne/Brown/ or Roman is what the person enjoys then Asia if you are willing to provide and it doesn't bother you and they are willing to pay go for it.
Funny thing, one of my technicians is Pakistani and he said in his country men don't DATY and they find it repulsive how americans and other cultures perform DATY on a female- just goes to show what one man may find repulsive the next man may see as normal. Also, if I am not mistaken I think either Taiwan or Thailand cow feces is eaten on a regular basis- yes I am not joking you can google it.
Asia I am pretty sure you have seen 2 girls and a cup- my only reaction to that video and in Brazil Scat movies are just as popular as porno flicks- the thing that amazed me is that the girls consume it as if it were ice cream- I mean vomit especially I just think your taste buds would reject the taste and you would spit it out- of course there's different levels of showers- you have some who just want to be pissed, dumped, or vomitted on and then you have some who consume. I won't knock anyone & don't think anyone should knock anyone for their fetish.

Someone made a good point- if the person is an individual that enjoys the consumption aspect of the showers he/she would be very risky to consume feces- since that has the most potential to carry parasites- someone also mention ruby showers which I will go on record and say that is extremely risky and dangerous on so many levels.

Mmmm.... Trooper Hawk, I do love a perverted mind. Let me thank you for your interest and I must admit I would love to take on the challenge of incorporating all of your perverted desires. I am definitely open to seeing & trying a few new things myself. Send me a PM when youre good & ready...

To me showers are not taboo either... but after talking to other hobbyists and providers, many have made me come to conclusion that showers & extreme fetishes (especially roman/brown showers) are a big NO NO.
Is that the case with everyone else? Has anyone received, given such showers or participated in such activities?
I've had girlfriends tell me of clients that dined on their excrements, clients that have told me of scat playing providers and so forth... Maybe I am being a little too invasive and am asking people to reveal to much of themselves, but I honestly want to know. Originally Posted by amazingasia

Asia I refuse to believe that Golden Showers are taboo- I have dated too many ladies who have told me that they have given their ex boyfriends a shower or two. I honestly think that most men will not openly admit to Golden showers because they believe it perhaps degrades them- i had an ex girlfriend who loved giveng them and she received a couple from me in the latter days, but she was more so into giving them- I admit when she first told me of it- I thought she was joking, but later found out she wasn't- likke I said I see no b ig deal about Golden Showers if it's the last act you do- after sex you should shower anyway- so if you get a Golden Shower and you shower it off you- what's the big deal. I think every provider she have that fetish as an option- why not get paid for doing something you MUST do naturally daily? LOL!