How do you define it?

I quite like mixing the two....GFE & PSE.. Originally Posted by Valerie

Me,too.

I quite like mixing the two....GFE & PSE...then just call it " The Val Experience" Originally Posted by Valerie

I can confirm this

To me, GFE is what I do with my girlfriend. PSE is what I do when I'm watching porn. Perhaps this is why I find the PSE somewhat boring and repetitive.

Hmmm...having done porn, and from my personal experiences, (as I can't speak for other ladies who've done porn) on the matter, I respectfully disagree....

A lot of people that work in the porn industry are safer than some people who escort. I know that the guys and gals in porn are getting their bloodwork done far more often than most people would, as well as drug tests... Originally Posted by Valerie

Okay I'll agree with that. Maybe my post should have been "After all most porn stars practice BBFS...on film anyway." So what does PSE really mean in the hobby world?

They put GFE in their showcase as a convenient way to avoid being specific about what they do...and it also allows us to bitch about it when we see them and our opinion of that term is different from theirs...

I get why so many care what it even means. Do some guys really believe that if they go see a gal that if she doesn't live up to their definition of GFE that them bitching about it will change anything.

Geeez just put what you like in your profile and be done with it.

Would a TS consider GFE?

New classes needed.
GFE = the works with a smile
PSE = the works with a grin
PSE/GFE = the works with a smile and a grin
PFE (Pure Freak) the works with a smile, a grin and pictures to prove it!

PFE (Pure Freak) the works with a smile, a grin and pictures to prove it! Originally Posted by chrome1996

I love it....

The term GFE is a sorta session grading terminology (provider performance term) which can have different meanings. The basic essence for me is getting it how I want it, non rushed, no drama, and getting off. This site acts as a sorta provider third party certification service (reviews) of a providers performance.

Seems we are talkin about the most basic of human interactions...and nobody seems to know what is supposed to happen.

Step back 20 years and ask your elders if CIM was part of a BBBJ then...
They will look at you like you need mental heath assistance..
If they feel sorry for you...they may ask... as if you are simple minded...
"What did you think was going to happen...?"

After all, until 1972, CIM was known as "oral contraception". There was no BBBJ cause NO ONE would ever use a condom for that...she could not get pregnant...And you old geezers know we used to call 'em 1,2 or 3 gulpers...just tell the facts guys.

I agree w/ Wakeup...its just to piss us off...
Another 10 years...they will be wanting us to pay to watch them post on these SHMBs...instead of satisfying us.

Then again...i'm sure not a prophet..
Sharia Law may solve all these issues for us.
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They put GFE in their showcase as a convenient way to avoid being specific about what they do...and it also allows us to bitch about it when we see them and our opinion of that term is different from theirs... Originally Posted by Wakeuр

Well, lets talk about what is non-GFE first.

Most SW encounters are not GFE . . .A Wam-Bam-Thankyou-Mam quickie at a deep discount with significant multiple risks.

An AMP rub-with-a-tug and a hapopy ending is not GFE.

A session in some low-end No-Tell that is a cbj with a one nut poke and no oral involvemebnt on the part of the hobbyist is not GFE. This used to be called a "Half-And-Half" in days gone by.

What GFE IS:

For me, GFE is less a list of acronyms on a menu of optionsitems, and more a mutual exchange of stimulation that leads to various (perhaps pre-negotiatesd) penatrative sex acts that are, or could be, pleasurable to both parties. An unrushed session with multiple cycles of stimulation (MSOG) if not multiple nuttting (not always possible).