Reviews on 'page 1 or page 4', does it matter when picking an escort??

London Rayne's Avatar
Someone once asked me what a 70-yr. old tasted like .. I said "Depends!" Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
NewWave's Avatar
I tend to like chicks who haven't been reviewed in awhile. i figure i might get more appreciative and less mechanical service. Obviously that's probably bullshit, but that's how my mind works.

for me, the first things i look for are certain physical attributes, namely booty, booty, and uh...hair type. I like certain types of hair. Not too into blondes.

next is reviews from guys I know are legit, and the things i look for is the overall package and experience.

if the sexiness and ass is off the charts, then I don't care what order her review is. But normally I like to look for forgotten gems, but i'm the same way about food, music, movies etc...
Rand Al'Thor's Avatar
Do any guys actually give a shit what page the current review of a lady is on, or do the ladies even care? Personally, I think it is a huge misconception that if a lady is on the top of page 1 or even 2 for a week that she is getting better appointment odds. When I choose a lady I look at her ad of course ( which runs it weekly course) but I look at 2-3-4 sometimes even 5 pages of ads/reviews when I'm on the hunt. Originally Posted by KosherCowboy
Give a shit? No.

Than I look at reviews. The first five have just as much a shot of further interest as the last 5 on page 4 or 6. Most guys about to shell out $100-$500 are going to do research on ECCIE and elsewhere where reviews are. If a girl gets bumped from page 3 to page one either from a picture or a reply it doesn't mean anything to me.

So what is all this fuss about not just G-Man posting a picture but anyone who bumps a thread. Most guys look beyond the first page when choosing, so what is the big deal about the first page? Does it really make the girl more money? Are guys really that lazy that they will pick a page one girl and totally skip researching latter pages?

Well, I don't think it matters where the review is, what page it is on, if it was bumped by a WK saying ' way to go' or if GM posted a pic. NONE of those influence my decision. I can find her pics on my own and before I pay I'll research all her reviews, the one on page one, the one on page four and the ones in her profile which could be well over a month(s) ago..

Too much page one can also ' backfire'; if I want to see a lady and she has 7 reviews on pages 1-2, I might assume ( perhaps wrongly) that she is a factory taking back to back appointments and is ' too busy' so will focus my efforts elsewhere.
None of these matter to you. However, you're a veteran monger who knows how to search and research.

How many times have we had to remind someone "search" is your friend? Do lurkers read enough of CoEd and ML to pick up good habits? I've noticed recently that there is a sniping contest for last ad posted to Weekend Lineup before it closes so that their ad would be the one on top for the rest of the week (and visible as a blurb when looking at the list of Austin forums).

Given the premise that reviews do make a difference at all to a provider's business (except London's), does visibility make any difference? There will always be an impulse buy market/segment, otherwise, the check out lanes at Walmart wouldn't be cluttered with gum, candy, and soda. It would be naive to think because our methods are immune, it makes no difference to others.

You look at ads, then a few pages of reviews. There were days when I browsed through reviews to find what I was looking for since reviews tend to have much more pertinent information about what I would base my decision on. Once I found someone that interested me (by going down the review section), I would do my research on her. If I didn't like what I read, I would continue down the review section.


Now, my post about Gman was hardly a fuss, but a reminder on what it could look like to others who don't know what he does is not an official board position or an organized effort. As for bumping reviews, if it makes no difference, then why do we have a guideline to not bump a review older than 30 days?
Naomi4u's Avatar
If she wears Depends it's a definite NO FUCKING WAY. Originally Posted by Budman
KosherCowboy's Avatar

I've noticed recently that there is a sniping contest for last ad posted to Weekend Lineup before it closes so that their ad would be the one on top for the rest of the week (and visible as a blurb when looking at the list of Austin forums).

Now, my post about Gman was hardly a fuss, but a reminder on what it could look like to others who don't know what he does is not an official board position or an organized effort. As for bumping reviews, if it makes no difference, then why do we have a guideline to not bump a review older than 30 days? Originally Posted by Rand Al'Thor
You are 100% correct about the weekend lineup, ladies have told me they actually try to be the last one to post on the WL so their name stands out all week.

As to Gman, all are entitled to their opinion, personally I think he does it for fun and doesn't benefit from the picture itself being posted but he may indirectly get a better rate via name recognition so I can see your point just from a different angle. Gman does have a well known name so perhaps he can buy his rides at invoice while others pay MSRP. All the power to him. He wouldn't be alone if that were the case either, tons of guys fall in to that category.

The 30 day rule was carried over from ASPD I am assuming as were many rules. That rule was originally put in place because in 30 days time things can rapidly change. Rates, looks, a provider may turn from FBSM to GFE, she may change from 100% outcall to 100% incall and so on; that is the reason we didn't allow bumps of reviews past 30 days, or co-ed posts for that matter either. Let the old reviews drift and new ones pop up. The information on top is more current that way. Old ones can be found in research. Topics can be revisted with new threads. Plus some other reasons that were minor. It also encouraged new threads to get going as opposed to threads sticking around for months. Regardless if it was a good rule or not, it was the rule in place and the only answer I can come up with and provide to your question ...ECCIE may have the 30 day rule in effect for the same or different reasons, I can only speculate based on the fact many of the rules carried over...Regardless of why ECCIE has it in place, I think it is a great rule.

Bumping reviews does make a difference in the fact that the bumped lady might get extra exposure but guys arent fooled, they will do their research regardless if on page 1 or 5. 30 days also stopped the WK's from bumping their ATF's reviews. And of course there were the smartass WK's who thought they were clever and bumped the review on day 29. People may think being on page one matters but in reality it doesn't mean a fucking thing.

IMHO, all others opinions are respected...I'll happily sit in the minority here if I am wrong.
shaft.drive's Avatar
Give a shit? No.
As for bumping reviews, if it makes no difference, then why do we have a guideline to not bump a review older than 30 days? Originally Posted by Rand Al'Thor
I just got warned for bumping such a review; I was being so entertained that I did.

Interestingly, since the vast majority seem to agree that it does not matter where the review is, I don't think one should be penalized for bumping an old review either
ztonk's Avatar
  • ztonk
  • 04-27-2011, 08:24 AM
I think that being on page 1 of the Provider Ads or Weekend Lineup forums drives more business to the ladies than being on the first Reviews page. If a guy has exhausted the recent ads without finding a suitable date, he turns to the reviews, and then maybe the Men's Lounge or Co-Ed, and after that, maybe tries BP or other, less-traveled websites.

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GentlemanJohn's Avatar
This is an excellent thread. Rand, KosherCowboy and zTonk have really made good observations, IMO. I only wish more of the gals would speak up.

One more thing... the "page one" location is particularly useful to me in regards to the traveling ladies (if someone has had a great session on their first day in Austin, then I might jump on it) or the new ones (Mayla and Serena come to mind). But like many of you, I do not consider "page one" to be the only source for info.
London Rayne's Avatar
Give a shit? No.

None of these matter to you. However, you're a veteran monger who knows how to search and research.

How many times have we had to remind someone "search" is your friend? Do lurkers read enough of CoEd and ML to pick up good habits? I've noticed recently that there is a sniping contest for last ad posted to Weekend Lineup before it closes so that their ad would be the one on top for the rest of the week (and visible as a blurb when looking at the list of Austin forums).

Given the premise that reviews do make a difference at all to a provider's business (except London's), does visibility make any difference? There will always be an impulse buy market/segment, otherwise, the check out lanes at Walmart wouldn't be cluttered with gum, candy, and soda. It would be naive to think because our methods are immune, it makes no difference to others.

You look at ads, then a few pages of reviews. There were days when I browsed through reviews to find what I was looking for since reviews tend to have much more pertinent information about what I would base my decision on. Once I found someone that interested me (by going down the review section), I would do my research on her. If I didn't like what I read, I would continue down the review section.


Now, my post about Gman was hardly a fuss, but a reminder on what it could look like to others who don't know what he does is not an official board position or an organized effort. As for bumping reviews, if it makes no difference, then why do we have a guideline to not bump a review older than 30 days? Originally Posted by Rand Al'Thor
Some good points in here, and using the Wal-Mart comparison is a good illustration. I had not considered the "impluse buy" angle, and after looking at the number of views the bumped reviews garner vs. the ones that just fall to the end of the page, there is some truth to this.

Thing is, with impluse buys guys generally don't want to invest a lot of time or money and that does not appeal to me...most don't have refs either.

I need at least 12 hours notice to accommodate someone, so this scenario would not really affect me. It would however give that exposure for longer periods of time like Rand said. I did not mean to suggest that reviews don't "affect" my business, because they certainly do.

Every time I get a review on TER my website stats are off the charts so it does matter in that instance. I simply meant that because of my schedule over the last few weeks, having reviews on the front page after I had already left an area didn't do much good. I am a touring provider, so my reviews tend to go up after I am already gone lol. That's all I meant by "I did not see a rise in business." I am sure girls who entertain locally do in fact reap the benefits of having their names visible.

I just assumed the OP was asking does it matter one way or the other where a girl's review falls in affecting your decision to see her period...not on impluse. Even if it is an impluse buy and the guy is just scanning reviews, won't he have to still do some more research to see if she is legit? I mean one review on the front page does not equate to a quality or proven provider IMO. He would still have to search for MORE reviews to make that decision I would think, but the TOFTT guys are in abundance.
Rand Al'Thor's Avatar
I don't think it's just the impulse market.

There have been time when I browsed the review section for the first provider that met my needs, then did some research. Even for those of us who do research before booking, what determines who you do research on? Has it ever been who caught your eye in the review section?

I understood your review/touring market view, London. However, it really depends on who you cater to. There have been many touring providers who did not have many sessions booked until the first couple of reviews came out about them, then they were booked solid for the rest of their stay. Makes me wonder what would happen if one of these providers got their couple of reviews, then Gman or someone bumped a bunch of other reviews to push the touring girls' review down to page 3 or 4...
NewWave's Avatar
You also get into the debate of what constitutes the impulse market, because for me, I'd say most of my choices have all been impulsive. I'd say most of us guys just get the itch and look for a scratch of some sorts. For ladies it's probably different, they like things planned out well in advance, which is annoying but understandable.

when i'm looking for something it is usually overall body type, specifically booty. I keep a mental note of one's who catch my attention and will remember them even if they haven't been mentioned in awhile.

Looks like i'm in the minority who likes the diamond-in-the-rough type, the ones with reviews buried. I suppose 15 of us voted that way.

For me, it's the same thing with music or movies. I don't mind mainstream stuff especially if its good and essential, but I always finds myself gravitating towards the fringes. Maybe it's where I feel more comfortable, not crowded with the masses, I don't know. It doesn't make sense to me but I notice this trend in all my purchasing habits.
shaft.drive's Avatar
impulse drives research......most of the time
London Rayne's Avatar
Oh trust me, I know how men are lol. I was once told by a very old, former hooker that "A hard on won't wait." This is why I cater to guys who can in fact plan in advance, and don't list a phone number on the net. When I first started I did try the impulse market and my phone rang off the hook at all hours of the day and night. I was not in school then nor did I have a child, so I was a lot more flexible with what I could accommodate. Still, I could never just be "ready" in less than 3 hours ha ha. It simply burned me out and to be honest, I did not like providing very much.

I do see how bumping reviews could hinder the other reviews where the touring providers are concerned, but for many that's the agenda to begin with. Many local providers in certain areas are rather territorial and it's quite sad.

Rand, you made a good point about getting an established review history in an area before guys took the plunge and I can certainly understand that. Even though I may have over 100 reviews nationwide, I guess some guys want to see if their "buddy" had a good time before seeing me.
sixxbach's Avatar
Many local providers in certain areas are rather territorial and it's quite sad.

You are talking about Austin right?


I guess some guys want to see if their "buddy" had a good time before seeing me. Originally Posted by London Rayne
That means that I need to see you first so that way my buddies would be confident in seeing you.....

sixx
London Rayne's Avatar
That means that I need to see you first so that way my buddies would be confident in seeing you.....

sixx Originally Posted by sixxbach
No, I don't have much experience with Austin but many other areas are this way. There are only a handful of providers so they want to make sure they get all they can get so to speak. The larger markets are not so bias towards touring ladies being most of the visiting ladies charge more anyway, so they don't see that as an issue.

You know you are first on my list in Austin babes! And trust me...I will be first on yours lmao!!