They pretty much own the media, the classroom, the monetary and
political system.
Who is they? The sheep herders.
Did I miss anything?
- bojulay
- 03-16-2013, 08:04 AM
- The Drummer
- 03-16-2013, 09:07 AM
As relative to the workplace:Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
-Warned of a world where no one wanted to read books.
Books? The people who work for me don’t even read posted signs. The reason? Weak and lazy minds.
-Warned of a culture diverted by mindless pleasure.
Employees are perpetually entertained by smart phone media.
-Warned of a state where a population, preoccupied by trivia and gossip, no longer cared about truth or information.
Setting aside truth, God forbid said individuals would have the inclination to learn something.
Briefly stated with concern to the above: Simple things entertain simple minds.
The future of the United States and the human race on the whole?
- Munchmasterman
- 03-17-2013, 07:42 PM
[QUOTE=The Drummer;1052538623]As relative to the workplace:
Sorry to burst your bubble but everything you have listed shows your ignorance of the subject matter and lack of management skills relative to an employer’s market.
Warned of a world where no one wanted to read books.
Books? The people who work for me don’t even read posted signs. The reason? Weak and lazy minds.
The below story shows the typical trend. The number of books sold each year trends upwards. Ignore the revenue changes, we’re talking about how many sold, not how much they were sold for.
In a time of supposed mass unemployment, you can’t find motivated, intelligent workers to fill your job needs? You can’t motivate your employees with either carrot or maybe something like decimation (borrowed from Caesar’s legions)?
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-07-18/u-dot-s-dot-book-sales-declined-in-2011-despite-rise-in-e-books
U.S. Book Sales Declined in 2011 Despite Rise in E-Books
The U.S. book market declined 2.5 percent in 2011 as sales of e-books, which are lower priced than printed works, more than doubled within the category that includes fiction and nonfiction.
Publishers generated $27.2 billion in book sales, down from $27.9 billion in 2010, according BookStats, an annual report produced by the Association of American Publishers and the Book Industry Study Group. Units sold rose 3.4 percent to 2.77 billion.
Warned of a culture diverted by mindless pleasure.
Employees are perpetually entertained by smart phone media.
Did you stop to consider maybe these people are reading ebooks? Or maybe that because of it’s compact size a smart phone can be many things to many people? Or that it’s a way to take their minds off what has to be a shitty job working for someone who has no business aptitude let alone read the “Dilbert” guide to management series?
Warned of a state where a population, preoccupied by trivia and gossip, no longer cared about truth or information.
Setting aside truth, God forbid said individuals would have the inclination to learn something.
Every job I’ve ever had in my field has been a constant learning experience. It is the employee’s responsibility to learn but it is the employer’s responsibility to provide the tools, the information, and a training/learning environment conducive to knowledge transfer.
Briefly stated with concern to the above: Simple things entertain simple minds.
Good call on this last one. Any complicated subject that can be stated in a “tweet” or summed up in 4 brief comments and then attributed to a large portion of the population is almost certainly wrong.
I feel both you and I together have shown why your analysis is wrong and why my analysis, using the time and effort I am willing to donate to people such as yourself, while not conclusive leaves the subject open and up for debate.
My only true conclusion is that your conclusion lacks insight, any facts to support said same, and displays my original premise. Everything you have listed shows your ignorance of the subject matter and lack of management skills relative to an employer’s market.
Sorry to burst your bubble but everything you have listed shows your ignorance of the subject matter and lack of management skills relative to an employer’s market.
Warned of a world where no one wanted to read books.
Books? The people who work for me don’t even read posted signs. The reason? Weak and lazy minds.
The below story shows the typical trend. The number of books sold each year trends upwards. Ignore the revenue changes, we’re talking about how many sold, not how much they were sold for.
In a time of supposed mass unemployment, you can’t find motivated, intelligent workers to fill your job needs? You can’t motivate your employees with either carrot or maybe something like decimation (borrowed from Caesar’s legions)?
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-07-18/u-dot-s-dot-book-sales-declined-in-2011-despite-rise-in-e-books
U.S. Book Sales Declined in 2011 Despite Rise in E-Books
The U.S. book market declined 2.5 percent in 2011 as sales of e-books, which are lower priced than printed works, more than doubled within the category that includes fiction and nonfiction.
Publishers generated $27.2 billion in book sales, down from $27.9 billion in 2010, according BookStats, an annual report produced by the Association of American Publishers and the Book Industry Study Group. Units sold rose 3.4 percent to 2.77 billion.
Warned of a culture diverted by mindless pleasure.
Employees are perpetually entertained by smart phone media.
Did you stop to consider maybe these people are reading ebooks? Or maybe that because of it’s compact size a smart phone can be many things to many people? Or that it’s a way to take their minds off what has to be a shitty job working for someone who has no business aptitude let alone read the “Dilbert” guide to management series?
Warned of a state where a population, preoccupied by trivia and gossip, no longer cared about truth or information.
Setting aside truth, God forbid said individuals would have the inclination to learn something.
Every job I’ve ever had in my field has been a constant learning experience. It is the employee’s responsibility to learn but it is the employer’s responsibility to provide the tools, the information, and a training/learning environment conducive to knowledge transfer.
Briefly stated with concern to the above: Simple things entertain simple minds.
Good call on this last one. Any complicated subject that can be stated in a “tweet” or summed up in 4 brief comments and then attributed to a large portion of the population is almost certainly wrong.
I feel both you and I together have shown why your analysis is wrong and why my analysis, using the time and effort I am willing to donate to people such as yourself, while not conclusive leaves the subject open and up for debate.
My only true conclusion is that your conclusion lacks insight, any facts to support said same, and displays my original premise. Everything you have listed shows your ignorance of the subject matter and lack of management skills relative to an employer’s market.
- Yssup Rider
- 03-17-2013, 09:34 PM
- CuteOldGuy
- 03-17-2013, 09:42 PM
Yeah, we used to own those things, but we sold out for security and free stuff.
- IIFFOFRDB
- 03-17-2013, 09:47 PM
- The Drummer
- 03-18-2013, 04:04 AM
[QUOTE=Munchmasterman;105254812 8]
And my astute friend; you know nothing about different types of leadership: Transformational, Motivational, etc. If you did, you would know that the Carrot and Stick method simply doesn’t work. Or what you refer to as “carrot, decimation”. People usually perform best when they genuinely want to do something. Not when their forced or threatened.
Oh yeah, these people are reading ebooks. I forgot. They’re not walking around texting and listening to music with ear buds. But you would know that because you’re there.
And to quote you: “Or that it’s a way to take their minds off what has to be a shitty job working for someone who has no business aptitude let alone read the “Dilbert” guide to management series?”
I stated observation, a very simple observation, and my opinion. From a few paragraphs you gleaned that I have no management acumen. Boy, are you insightful.
It’s obvious that you’ve read books on management and I commend that. But now apply the theoretical to real world application. You’ll find that much of these “guides” aren’t much help. If you knew anything, you’d know that you’re dealing with the psychodynamics of people. And that takes experience and practice.
I’m not going to go on, simply because of the barrage of insults contained in your post.
But one more thing: “Knowledge Transfer”. Good terminology. You have read books! Then you would know that Education is part of the Service Sector, and a service is just that – a service. It’s my responsibility to teach, yes. But it’s the student’s responsibility to be receptive to work and to learn. It’s a two-way street that’s doomed to fail without full effort of both involved.
You conclude with “I feel both you and I together have shown why your analysis is wrong and why my analysis, using the time and effort I am willing to donate to people such as yourself, while not conclusive leaves the subject open and up for debate.”
By slinging insults, you open no one to debate. You just close their mind. If you want to post a rebuttal without the insulting attitude, I’d be very open to hearing from you because I have much more to say.
TD
As relative to the workplace:My first question: What bubble are you bursting? There is no bubble to burst. Even if there was, you have no bearing over anyone’s “bubble”.
Sorry to burst your bubble but everything you have listed shows your ignorance of the subject matter and lack of management skills relative to an employer’s market.
Warned of a world where no one wanted to read books.
Books? The people who work for me don’t even read posted signs. The reason? Weak and lazy minds.
The below story shows the typical trend. The number of books sold each year trends upwards. Ignore the revenue changes, we’re talking about how many sold, not how much they were sold for.
In a time of supposed mass unemployment, you can’t find motivated, intelligent workers to fill your job needs? You can’t motivate your employees with either carrot or maybe something like decimation (borrowed from Caesar’s legions)?
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-07-18/u-dot-s-dot-book-sales-declined-in-2011-despite-rise-in-e-books
U.S. Book Sales Declined in 2011 Despite Rise in E-Books
The U.S. book market declined 2.5 percent in 2011 as sales of e-books, which are lower priced than printed works, more than doubled within the category that includes fiction and nonfiction.
Publishers generated $27.2 billion in book sales, down from $27.9 billion in 2010, according BookStats, an annual report produced by the Association of American Publishers and the Book Industry Study Group. Units sold rose 3.4 percent to 2.77 billion.
Warned of a culture diverted by mindless pleasure.
Employees are perpetually entertained by smart phone media.
Did you stop to consider maybe these people are reading ebooks? Or maybe that because of it’s compact size a smart phone can be many things to many people? Or that it’s a way to take their minds off what has to be a shitty job working for someone who has no business aptitude let alone read the “Dilbert” guide to management series?
Warned of a state where a population, preoccupied by trivia and gossip, no longer cared about truth or information.
Setting aside truth, God forbid said individuals would have the inclination to learn something.
Every job I’ve ever had in my field has been a constant learning experience. It is the employee’s responsibility to learn but it is the employer’s responsibility to provide the tools, the information, and a training/learning environment conducive to knowledge transfer.
Briefly stated with concern to the above: Simple things entertain simple minds.
Good call on this last one. Any complicated subject that can be stated in a “tweet” or summed up in 4 brief comments and then attributed to a large portion of the population is almost certainly wrong.
I feel both you and I together have shown why your analysis is wrong and why my analysis, using the time and effort I am willing to donate to people such as yourself, while not conclusive leaves the subject open and up for debate.
My only true conclusion is that your conclusion lacks insight, any facts to support said same, and displays my original premise. Everything you have listed shows your ignorance of the subject matter and lack of management skills relative to an employer’s market. Originally Posted by The Drummer
And my astute friend; you know nothing about different types of leadership: Transformational, Motivational, etc. If you did, you would know that the Carrot and Stick method simply doesn’t work. Or what you refer to as “carrot, decimation”. People usually perform best when they genuinely want to do something. Not when their forced or threatened.
Oh yeah, these people are reading ebooks. I forgot. They’re not walking around texting and listening to music with ear buds. But you would know that because you’re there.
And to quote you: “Or that it’s a way to take their minds off what has to be a shitty job working for someone who has no business aptitude let alone read the “Dilbert” guide to management series?”
I stated observation, a very simple observation, and my opinion. From a few paragraphs you gleaned that I have no management acumen. Boy, are you insightful.
It’s obvious that you’ve read books on management and I commend that. But now apply the theoretical to real world application. You’ll find that much of these “guides” aren’t much help. If you knew anything, you’d know that you’re dealing with the psychodynamics of people. And that takes experience and practice.
I’m not going to go on, simply because of the barrage of insults contained in your post.
But one more thing: “Knowledge Transfer”. Good terminology. You have read books! Then you would know that Education is part of the Service Sector, and a service is just that – a service. It’s my responsibility to teach, yes. But it’s the student’s responsibility to be receptive to work and to learn. It’s a two-way street that’s doomed to fail without full effort of both involved.
You conclude with “I feel both you and I together have shown why your analysis is wrong and why my analysis, using the time and effort I am willing to donate to people such as yourself, while not conclusive leaves the subject open and up for debate.”
By slinging insults, you open no one to debate. You just close their mind. If you want to post a rebuttal without the insulting attitude, I’d be very open to hearing from you because I have much more to say.
TD
- Doove
- 03-18-2013, 04:26 AM
- JD Barleycorn
- 03-18-2013, 11:07 AM
Ahhhhh, quantity over quality. The ten best selling books of 2012 (print) were; Fifty Shades of Grey, Fifty Shades Darker, Fifty Shades Freed, The Hunger Games, Strengths Finder 2.0, Fifty Shades of Grey (box set), Catching Fire, Mockingjay, Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Third Whell, and No Easy Day. I'll add Gone Girl (#12) because of the box set plus have to mention that the box set of Hunger Games was number 11.
One book on fact, one self help book, and the rest are inferior (but entertaining to some) dreck or as I heard recently from someone in the industry "poop on a page".
Kindle top ten is almost the same but with Bared to You, and The Racketeer bringing up the rear. Looking at the top 20 I can find only a couple that are historical and the rest are crap.
http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/b...s-of-2012.html
One book on fact, one self help book, and the rest are inferior (but entertaining to some) dreck or as I heard recently from someone in the industry "poop on a page".
Kindle top ten is almost the same but with Bared to You, and The Racketeer bringing up the rear. Looking at the top 20 I can find only a couple that are historical and the rest are crap.
http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/b...s-of-2012.html