How hard is it to read a ladies ad...here or elsewhere?

Thank you, thank you, thank you so much Kendall!

Not only have you read my mind, but I could not of said it better myself ��

"I do not watch the clock"!
Schedule an hour with me,
and more than likely,
our time goes over an hour.
This should be comfortable, fun and enjoyable for both of us! And if that's the case, there's no need to be watching a clock:-)

I do understand with the recent changes to Eccie that certain things cannot be discussed out in the open and a ladies reviews, prior to the site going down, are no longer viewable. However, if a lady refers you somewhere else to look at "booking details" perhaps you should do so. There is nothing more frustrating than going through screening only to find out that he, whomever he may be, did NOT do proper research. For the love of Pete, just freaking take a look at what we refer you to. It will save ALL parties wasted time and energy! Good grief. Originally Posted by Kendall4U

Kendall, you are one of the few ladies who actually provide all the info any gent needs to know - assuming they have half a brain. Unfortunately you are a rarity in that practice. The new rules here totally exacerbate that problem.

Someone please tell me why q.v. and hhr visits are so popular to some men? Is it because they are cheap? I personally feel lesser length sessions bring more unwarranted attention to a lady and her premises. I'm not knocking anyone who offers or partakes, as I tried hhr sessions when I first started, they just do not seem worth it to me.

1). I hate being rushed
2). I have a day job and if I'm gonna sneak away it isn't going to be for a hhr or less.
3). I do not live at my incall
4). Too much traffic
5). I have to put the same amt of effort to be ready and I cannot see doing so for less than an hour.

I'm curious and want an actual discussion. I'd love to hear your thoughts, Guys and gals. Originally Posted by Kendall4U

I can only speak to my situation, but I'm one of those who likes HHR appointments, and generally they are spur of the moment instead of planned ahead of time. Due to my real world situation, I typically only get to play during the work day.



My work schedule is pretty wonky. Sometimes I'll have a 2 or 3 hour window open up immediately which allows me time to slip away to play. Typically HHR is all I can usually squeeze into that window. Scheduling, cleanup, commute, play, commute can eat up that window pretty efficiently.

As far as reading any provided info what can you say or do? Can lead a horse to water.....

I think I usually do 30 minutes about half the time and an hour the other half. I've never done a BnG or QV.

Some of the reasons I like 30 minutes (some make me sound like a douche but oh well)
I have zero interest in msog.
I have zero interest in daty
I have a little but usually not a lot of interest in really getting to know you beyond a basic comfort level (this can actually apply for both 30 and 60 minutes). To me this can be fluff in a hobby relationship. We're all looking for different things and I don't really need to know that much about you nor do you need to know much about me (my life would bore the hell out of you anyway).
It costs less and I can therefore hobby more or spend that left over money on something else.
1st time visit and I have no idea how things will go.
Multiple visits and I know what I want and need from our session.

Reasons for 60 minutes.
I live in BFE and can't get anywhere in under 45 minutes unless I go into my office. Seems silly to drive 45 minutes each way for a 30 minute session.
I've seen you before and know that 60 minutes is good for what I'm interested in.
The 60 minute rate is a rate I'm comfortable with. Sex isn't worth 300 dollars an hour to me with just about anybody, that's just the way I feel. I'm not saying somebody isn't worth an amount I'm just saying I'm not ok with paying that much.
Multiple visits and I know what I want and need from our session.

There are some of the reasons why I pick a 30 or 60 minute session. Really it can depend on my time, money, the provider, whatever else I have going on, the time of day, the day of the week, specials, specific things I'm looking for, etc.

I don't speak for anybody but myself with those reasons. And again about half and half on 30/60.

If a guy can only bust once and has a quick trigger then pay for the hour, bust a nut in 15 minutes and leave. Not the lady's fault there quick-draws out there.

If a guy can only bust once and has a quick trigger then pay for the hour, bust a nut in 15 minutes and leave. Not the lady's fault there quick-draws out there. Originally Posted by Hercules

If he has a quick trigger and can only bust a nut once, then why would he pay for an hour? It is his money and his wants and desires out of a session. I think that as long as she gets paid for the full hour, there are lots of providers out there that would not mind if a guy is like that or has no stamina to even last an hour non stop. However, it is rare that guy that hobbies wants to just cuddle, chat or whatever before or after to fill up the remainder of the time void he paid for. But in reality, if he gets there, busts and leaves in about 15-20 minutes since that is how some guys are, and stills pays for the hour, that is probably ideal for her.

I have never paid for QV or 30 minute sessions, all mine have been for an hour or more. If a provider does not like to do less than an hour sessions, then she can and should post that in her profile(s). If a guy is not smart enough to see that or ignores it hoping she will make an exception, then it is on him to get lambasted by the provider.

Someone please tell me why q.v. and hhr visits are so popular to some men? Is it because they are cheap? I personally feel lesser length sessions bring more unwarranted attention to a lady and her premises. I'm not knocking anyone who offers or partakes, as I tried hhr sessions when I first started, they just do not seem worth it to me.

1). I hate being rushed
2). I have a day job and if I'm gonna sneak away it isn't going to be for a hhr or less.
3). I do not live at my incall
4). Too much traffic
5). I have to put the same amt of effort to be ready and I cannot see doing so for less than an hour.

I'm curious and want an actual discussion. I'd love to hear your thoughts, Guys and gals. Originally Posted by Kendall4U

Popular to some men? due to SO, Time and Needs.
Is it because they are cheap? yes, so they can afford see providers more often.
Car Date: An RV incall at wally world would work best.


Most good providers have Ur 5 thoughts.

There are some valid posts in here. Thanks for the input folks. It's nice to see there can be well thought out adult conversation on the board.
Happy Friday!

Kendall,
I'm really impressed with how nicely you are keeping up the convo in co-ed. I miss you! I need to see your sexy face again soon.

I also work and even this week I've had a hard time matching up schedules with a gent of mine to book a 30 minute appointment. Granted, my schedule is somewhat flexible, but I still have to weigh my options.

I have to consider:

• how much money I'm making at work vs how much I'll be making
• how much time I'm going to take to get ready
• what is traffic like at the time of day he is going to see me for me to get to my location or maybe I'm on the other side of town and tied up at work and still have to head home first to even get ready

Yes, sometimes 30 minute appointments work out great for me with some notice (some notice being the key words here) so I can work out other things I need to do on that day. But it's not always worth missing out on a whole or half day of work for a 30 minute appointment.At least unless there is some advance planning in my case.

I totally understand the reasons many of you guys listed and that's why I offer those sessions. I feel many times that first time visits might want a shorter session, or guys sneaking off from work for a short break can't always take an hour with one of us.

Oh the pleasures of bumping TNTAngie.

I do understand with the recent changes to Eccie that certain things cannot be discussed...
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... Originally Posted by Kendall4U

TL;DR

I do understand with the recent changes to Eccie that certain things cannot be discussed out in the open and a ladies reviews, prior to the site going down, are no longer viewable. However, if a lady refers you somewhere else to look at "booking details" perhaps you should do so. There is nothing more frustrating than going through screening only to find out that he, whomever he may be, did NOT do proper research. For the love of Pete, just freaking take a look at what we refer you to. It will save ALL parties wasted time and energy! Good grief.

Someone please tell me why q.v. and hhr visits are so popular to some men? Is it because they are cheap? I personally feel lesser length sessions bring more unwarranted attention to a lady and her premises. I'm not knocking anyone who offers or partakes, as I tried hhr sessions when I first started, they just do not seem worth it to me.

1). I hate being rushed
2). I have a day job and if I'm gonna sneak away it isn't going to be for a hhr or less.
3). I do not live at my incall
4). Too much traffic
5). I have to put the same amt of effort to be ready and I cannot see doing so for less than an hour.

I'm curious and want an actual discussion. I'd love to hear your thoughts, Guys and gals. Originally Posted by Kendall4U

This is a two part question...

Your first paragraph is just inexcusable on the guy. Not doing intelligence gathering is only going to lead to a disaster that quite frankly should be avoided.

As to hh encounters, I can chit chat briefly but mostly want to get to it. For me an hh is just as pleasurable as the full hour.

Until the 1970s, most clients paid by the pop. For example, the price in LA in 1952 was $20 for the act, called, in the slang of the day, a "pop". Nobody sold "time". Brothels charged for a pop. One pop and you were done. You had to pay another $20 for a pop. In the 1950s, travel trailers were parked on Harry Hines, controlled by the Campesi family, and services sold, 20 per. No msog.

In the 70s, some brothels operated as massage parlors because it was legal to provide massages, and "providing" massage "services" was an affirmative defense if charged for operating as a brothel.

An attorney for a massage parlor beat the case (in liberal-minded courts in San Francisco) by arguing that what consenting adults did with their time was not illegal. So if a lady was giving a massage, and then, of her free will, decided to offer more, no crime was committed. Some courts agreed.

So selling time and not services became the go-to defense.

High-end esorts in the 70s sold their time only. To bust them, undercover vice had to get the escort to agree to an exchange of money for services.

Elite escorts in NYC in the 1980s typically worked for agencies or independently, all selling time. I was there as a client of call-girls as early as 1984.

But streetwalkers have always provided services priced per pop.

So, clients that prefer QVs are typically less choosy. While ladies who prefer hour-appointments are more selective in choice of clients.

Little has changed in the hobby. The concept of selling time only is a legal strategem. What is still being sold, either as a quickie aka "pop" or an hour (think msog) is an experience.

I prefer the hhr for a few reasons.

1. Short on time
2. I can usually have multiple visits for the price of some hours.
3. Worst feeling in the hobby is to know you paid twice as much for a hour visit only to get hhr service or mediocre service to regret not going with the hhr or another girl.
4. Cost. Number two is always a consideration

I prefer the hhr for a few reasons.

1. Short on time
2. I can usually have multiple visits for the price of some hours.
3. Worst feeling in the hobby is to know you paid twice as much for a hour visit only to get hhr service or mediocre service to regret not going with the hhr or another girl.
4. Cost. Number two is always a consideration Originally Posted by Geeman76

I agree and will add, I'm not there to chitchat but wouldn't mind the chat, just not on my time. Everyone has different needs, some may want to talk and that's OK, I'm there for the main attraction.