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Hello Charley

May I ask you to clarify your reply? You won’t provide personal info but also wont see girls who don’t screen?

What qualifies as acceptable screening in your personal opinion that would make you feel comfortable?

To the OP: FYI, I do require a certain amount of personal info for screening as well as a deposit in advance, as does any provider I would recommend. If that doesn’t suit your fancy, I’m sure there are options suitable to your comfort level. Good luck in your search!

Hope everyone has been staying warm this week!

Oops forgot to like my own post! Originally Posted by Dreamgurrl

Hi. What I’m saying is I won’t give personal info to local girls. It’s just something I’m not comfortable with. I say “local” only because I’ve seen and heard of local girls that have harassed local guys. And I’m sure you’ve seen or heard of the same thing from your end(local guys stalking or harassing local girls). I’m sure it’s happened with travel girls or large agencies but providing a local girl with all of my personal and local info seems dangerous to me. I won’t do it.
What I am comfortable with for local girls is providing references from other local girls.

Hi. What I’m saying is I won’t give personal info to local girls. It’s just something I’m not comfortable with. I say “local” only because I’ve seen and heard of local girls that have harassed local guys. And I’m sure you’ve seen or heard of the same thing from your end(local guys stalking or harassing local girls). I’m sure it’s happened with travel girls or large agencies but providing a local girl with all of my personal and local info seems dangerous to me. I won’t do it.
What I am comfortable with for local girls is providing references from other local girls. Originally Posted by Charley3

To each their own. I don’t even use references at all.
In my personal opinion, it’s a little backward but you do you!

To each their own. I don’t even use references at all.
In my personal opinion, it’s a little backward but you do you! Originally Posted by Dreamgurrl

That’s the great part. We all get to “do you”.

As an aside, I can see insanely hot girls in NYC (among other places) that charge as much or less than the girls here who don't need a deposit and have minimal screening. If mongering is in your long-term plans, this is one of the worst imaginable cities to be doing it in. Limited choices, overpriced, etc.
Originally Posted by Whatwhathuh

Indeed !!! The same is true of Florida - loads of hot girls who charge a lot less than the ones here with no real life screening info needed. Other than when we get appealing visitors, Pittsburgh is indeed a terrible city to hobby in these days

Hi. What I’m saying is I won’t give personal info to local girls. It’s just something I’m not comfortable with. I say “local” only because I’ve seen and heard of local girls that have harassed local guys. Originally Posted by Charley3

Shoot, there have been multiple reports on this board of providers blackmailing / harassing guys with the real world info the guys foolishly provided them. Anyone who has followed this board knows who some of those reports others posted are about

I don’t even give real info to civi girls, fuck if I’m giving it to a pro.

1. Never, ever disclose your real life information, no matter what
2. Use a burner phone and burner email
3. Never pay in advance (including deposits)
4. Read reviews to know which providers are worth seeing
5. If some ad sounds too good to be true, it likely is. Stay safe

And above all, don't think with your little head when some provider tells you to violate any of the above rules. If they insist on real life info (they sure aren't giving you theirs) or cash up front before you even meet, go find a different provider to see. Originally Posted by berryberry

If you ever for any reason find yourself even thinking about breaking even one of these rules, stop and read all of the vast vast number of posts from guys who already broke one and how it turned out for them.

There are several girls who I would GIVE a couple hundred to if they needed it that badly and I still wouldnt give them a deposit.

Niagara isn’t that far, and loaded with smoking hot providers that charge way less than in this area.

I'd go see Angel Daze any day over this dreamgirl.

Recently started looking into contacting someone for the first time. I am nervous and do not know what to expect. Any tips or pointers for someone starting out? I was looking through tryst and dreamgirl really caught my eye.

Thanks in advance! Originally Posted by Whiplashxx99

Read as much Eccie content as you can, specifically in the geographic section in which you plan to hobby. When I started reading about the PGH hobby in 2004 there was TheEroticReview (mostly just reviews), The Big Doggie, ASPD (which dominated the PGH hobby in 2004) and then Indys created their forums in early 2005. Now in 2021 the only online forums site for "the hobby"(at least for PGH) is Eccie so you have to go with that. Just browse around and read different hobbyists, particularly in your hobby-region. And spend for Guys Room forum access too. It's arguably the most relevant and useful forum on the board for local hobbyists, though the Co Ed Vouched section is pretty useful too....

There are certain "guidelines" you should follow which others have specified here: 1.) Hobby phone 2.) Hobby email 3.) No "real world" info including your Real Name and Place Of Work to "providers" (or SA girls) EVER. Sure, a lot of the "established" Tryst girls require that intel. If you are willing to give that intel then try to calculate what level of "risk" each provider is. Many of them won't ever share that intel. The issue is you can't determine With....Certainty which ones you Don't have to worry about, and which ones you DO have to worry about....

All the same hobbyist "guidelines" apply to SA girls, and even the "civilian" SA girls who are Brand....New to the game. 1.) No Real Name 2.) No Place Of Employment 3.) Hobby Phone and Hobby Email. I take the added precaution of 4.) No Sessions At My House, even with SA girls. I don't want their "drivers" and "besties" and whatever else types of people to know where I live. So I see SA girls in reasonably-priced motels and hotels. 5.) I don't deal with SA girl "living spaces"- too much risk of "drivers" and boyfriends barging in. Curiously many of the local providers "incalls" are mostly trustworthy if they don't have any negative "press" attached to them.....

The key with SA girls, particularly all "new" SA girls, is to Keep....Them....On.....Task. Don't let them "deviate" from the intended purpose of "pay for play". Don't endure any of their Bullshit: 1.) "Buy from my wishlist so I know you're legit..." 2.) "Can you pay some bills so I know you're legit...?" None of this bullshit would fly on the old ASPD, Indys and the current Eccie. Many SA girls are "new to the game" and think they can "get away with this". Don't deal with any 3.) OnlyFans scams. There is too much of this nonsense on SA but positively there are plenty of Pro....Ho's on SA too....

Acquire all the conducive intel from SA girls Within...The....First....Few.. ...PMs's. 1.) General Availability 2.) General Location (I always rent hotel rooms) 3.) Specific Rate. The Pro Ho's will give you this intel Quickly. The "wishlist" and OnlyFans girls will try to "string you along." With SA girls you should be able to "close the deal" with Legit providers and players Within....A....Week of first PM contact. If you can't "expedite the process" and Set....Firm....Plans to complete a session within a week from first contact then move on. Plenty of girls on SA want to make money Quickly and Safely. Those are the girls to determine and find on SA. And there are plenty of them on SA....

Tolstoy: Still All About "Mentorship" & "Companionship" With SA Girls....

A deposit in advance....what a load of bullshit

A deposit in advance....what a load of bullshit Originally Posted by eyecu2

This might be just my remembrance, but I don't remember "deposits in advance" Ever being a part of the PGH hobby-scene in ASPD and then Indys years. They were "verboten" and mocked with impunity by hobby-guys. It's true that most current Eccie guys reject the prospect of "deposits in advance". But more providers seem to require them now than in past years....

This is another factor which applies to SA and which does not apply to the orthodox "hobby" per se: many SA girls request/require a Face Pic of guys to determine if they are interested in any prospect of "pay for play". Particularly the new-girls will more likely request/require a Face pic of guys inquiring with them. And more and more SA girls are calling for ZOOM-calls and the like. Hobbyists did not have to deal with Any of this bullshit in the ASPD and Indys era's....

I refuse to send Face pics to SA girls and I estimate it "cuts in half" all my prospects there. I still hook-up with SA girls as much as I want. If you don't want to send a Face pic to SA girls then you are "limited" to the girls who don't require them. That puts many of the newbie "civilian" girls out of reach. But many of the newbie "civilian" girls have their own sets of headaches....

The first couple years I played on SA I was "openminded" to "meet and greets" and lunches which often turned into paid-sessions in the afternoons. I am LESS interested in "meet and greets" now. I will do them if the SA girl is Particularly Hot and if she implies she knows what this is all about. Mostly I want a Straight....Line between the first PM contact and then us Doing....Business, and I try to "close the deal" within one (1) week of first PM contact. Keep These SA Girls....On.....Task. Don't let them "deviate" from the intended purpose of "pay for play". The Pro Ho's will give out their 1.) General Availability 2.) General Location and 3.) Specific Rate all within a few PM's. They want to make money Quickly and Safely, as Conveniently as we want to Get....Laid.....

Read as much Eccie content as you can, specifically in the geographic section in which you plan to hobby. When I started reading about the PGH hobby in 2004 there was TheEroticReview (mostly just reviews), The Big Doggie, ASPD (which dominated the PGH hobby in 2004) and then Indys created their forums in early 2005. Now in 2021 the only online forums site for "the hobby"(at least for PGH) is Eccie so you have to go with that. Just browse around and read different hobbyists, particularly in your hobby-region. And spend for Guys Room forum access too. It's arguably the most relevant and useful forum on the board for local hobbyists, though the Co Ed Vouched section is pretty useful too....

There are certain "guidelines" you should follow which others have specified here: 1.) Hobby phone 2.) Hobby email 3.) No "real world" info including yourReal Name and Place Of Work to "providers" (or SA girls) EVER. Sure, a lot of the "established" Tryst girls require that intel. If you are willing to give that intel then try to calculate what level of "risk" each provider is. Many of them won't ever share that intel. The issue is you can't determine With....Certainty which ones you Don't have to worry about, and which ones you DO have to worry about....

All the same hobbyist "guidelines" apply to SA girls, and even the "civilian" SA girls who are Brand....New to the game. 1.) No Real Name 2.) No Place Of Employment 3.) Hobby Phone and Hobby Email. I take the added precaution of 4.) No Sessions At My House, even with SA girls. I don't want their "drivers" and "besties" and whatever else types of people to know where I live. So I see SA girls in reasonably-priced motels and hotels. 5.) I don't deal with SA girl "living spaces"- too much risk of "drivers" and boyfriends barging in. Curiously many of the local providers "incalls" are mostly trustworthy if they don't have any negative "press" attached to them.....

The key with SA girls, particularly all "new" SA girls, is to Keep....Them....On.....Task. Don't let them "deviate" from the intended purpose of "pay for play". Don't endure any of their Bullshit: 1.) "Buy from my wishlist so I know you're legit..." 2.) "Can you pay some bills so I know you're legit...?" None of this bullshit would fly on the old ASPD, Indys and the current Eccie. Many SA girls are "new to the game" and think they can "get away with this". Don't deal with any 3.) OnlyFans scams. There is too much of this nonsense on SA but positively there are plenty of Pro....Ho's on SA too....

Acquire all the conducive intel from SA girls Within...The....First....Few.. ...PMs's. 1.) General Availability 2.) General Location (I always rent hotel rooms) 3.) Specific Rate. The Pro Ho's will give you this intel Quickly. The "wishlist" and OnlyFans girls will try to "string you along." With SA girls you should be able to "close the deal" with Legit providers and players Within....A....Week of first PM contact. If you can't "expedite the process" and Set....Firm....Plans to complete a session within a week from first contact then move on. Plenty of girls on SA want to make money Quickly and Safely. Those are the girls to determine and find on SA. And there are plenty of them on SA....

Tolstoy: Still All About "Mentorship" & "Companionship" With SA Girls.... Originally Posted by tolstoy

I have some experience over the years. I’ve never used SA, very helpful. Thank you

If I have to give out my personnel information to see someone then i wont ever see anyone, simple as that like it or not!

If I have to give out my personnel information to see someone then i wont ever see anyone, simple as that like it or not! Originally Posted by Chase7

Hey if you have your reservations and fears not to that is to be respected man. I am a pig and a whoremonger and I don't give a fuck if CIA finds out I see providers. I love it and that is never gonna change. I will give personal info if I have to to see a provider that is worthy of seeing.