I think we need a list!!!!

Dear god.. how the hell does a girl know if the gents so many ladies try to blacklist actually are a problem.. fact is often times we don't.. hell half the time its a bitch fest in progress and the guy did actually nothing wrong other than piss her off.. and girls make it a point to blacklist him and attempt to block his fun.. hell i have seen the list, the pissed off post, the "this guy ask for anal" type things and wham the guy gets listed.. list are about as good as the people writing them..half the time, not worth much.. if its trusted hobbyiest writing trusted nc/ns list then its a good list.. if its a list where "she wouldn't kiss me like i wanted so she needs to be listed" type list..then its a waste of time..

and hell there are girls that blacklist guys and bad mouth them just because she didn't like his tone during the date.. so i guess it would average out with the guy being an asshole and listing some girl just cuz she wouldn't see him..

i mean seriously..guys aren't as stupid as ladies try to make them out to be.. believe it or not.. they are smart enough to read a list of NC/NS girls and when they came across what appears to be a disgruntled guy just posting to ruin a girl.. they will and are smart enough to take it with a grain of salt..and move on..

geez..

i say make the freakin list..some girls earn the right to be on a NC/NS list and if ladies think they can make some list cuz its their pussy they are selling..then guys have every right cuz its their money and time thats being wasted.. and to them..their time and money is just as important as that girls pussy

How would you be aware that as like many other things on this board that they are accurate and not a gent just being an a-hole cause a girl refused to visit with him? Im not saying that that is the case all the time but could be sometimes and i dont think that its fair to huet a young ladies reputation because of that.. If it is a true ncns then yes i agree Originally Posted by Kaci Snow

i mean seriously..guys aren't as stupid as ladies try to make them out to be.. Originally Posted by DeAnna Luv

yeah we are. or at least we can be.

I said if it is a true ncns then i totaly agree with it but i guess my thing is that how sure can you be that there wasent a legit reason for the ncns family emergency illness children any number of things. I do believe that the lady should try and take the time to call and let the gent knw if someting comes up just as i would hope that a gentlemen would do the same for me if something came up on his end.

Wouldn't a list of those who HAVEN'T NCNS be shorter?

How would you be aware that as like many other things on this board that they are accurate and not a gent just being an a-hole cause a girl refused to visit with him? Im not saying that that is the case all the time but could be sometimes and i dont think that its fair to huet a young ladies reputation because of that.. If it is a true ncns then yes i agree Originally Posted by Kaci Snow

That could be true, but we will never know. How do you know that each "alert" that a girl posts on a guy is actually true? It likely could be a girl trying to avoid keeping an obligation or paying a debt so she writes an alert to slander the guy before he can post anything bad about her. I've heard firsthand account of that happening before. So like anything else in this hobby world - you'd just have to take these for what they are and use your own judgment.

Making a list completely of ncns may put someone on there that other then that one time has close to a spotless record. Good or bad would it be easier to link all of a providers reviews to her showcase or the drop down menu on her name? I normally just search everything from her past 5 or 6 reviews to how she posts before i decide.

bottom line.. no matter what the reason.. if a girl makes an appointment..doesn't call and doesn't show at the appointment she made..she has in every essence of the meaning committed a NC/NS and that should be pointed out.. no matter the reasoning..and yes life gets in the way..it shouldn't..and personally that is a bullshit lame ass excuse that gets leaned on way to much.. but if life does.. then the girl makes it right, calls ASAP since bottom line..this is still her JOB, her BUSINESS.. and she owes it to the men that were going to pay her to offer atleast an explanation without revealing to much as to why the NC/NS occurred..

if a guy post a NC/NS and 2 days later gets knowledge the he accepts as true..then its up to the guy to make sure his NC/NS addition of the lady is given some caveat and he makes it known it was posted but he accepts her explanation..

why should a NC/NS still be allowed under those circumstances..because..if that girl makes it a habit to NC/NS yet offers the same or close to the same excuse everytime to different guys.. a list will in fact warn other guys of her ways.. because bottom line.. NC/NS is in fact still that..no matter the excuse.. and a girl that seemingly doesn't have her shit together and offers up excuses constantly should be known via list so guys can make a better informed decision

fact is..some providers need to quit hiding behind the bullshit smoke and mirrors..for any and every excuse some provider will offer up as to why a nc/ns list may have its flaws... the same thing and more takes place in the bitchfest section aka girls areas..and then some.. guys being listed for bullshit reasons.. like.. "work came up"..girls will be pissed and black list away..so providers need to quit with the bullshit

I don't consider NC/NS a major problem. Think about it, you go home and put on some internet porn and make Mr. Happy happy. The next morning you wake up and that $200 or $250 or $300 is still in your wallet. Granted you might be out some gas and time but that is only a minor aggravation.

On the other hand, the provider wakes up the next morning without that $200 or $250 or $300 in her purse, and she still has rent, car payments, bills, expenses, etc to worry about. So in the whole scheme of things who gets hurt worse?

fortworth..i see where you are coming from.. unfortunately.. that gal..somehow will manage to sucker some guy in to seeing her, perhaps that is why she NC/NS the guy that is listing her..she had a regular or better offer come in.. sadly rarely are the ones that should be without that money in their purse..actually without it.. cuz a sucker is always around the corner..and/or reading a post about how that NC/NS girl suddenly needs and is begging for on the board financial help..

a list is needed..and provider approval is NOT needed.. just be aware as with anything a guy on these boards decides to do..there will be backlash, leaks and in fact blacklisting of their own going on when you list them..

I agree with FWOG. It happens from time to time - you just keep it in the back of your mind and have a Plan B if you're hell-bent on action in that particular time period. This is a weird world, and as much as some call it a business like any other, it's not. I just try to make sure there's no reason a reasonable provider would want to avoid me, and then if for some reason they hose me - I move on and don't let them control any more of my time or thoughts. There's other talent out there, and more on the way.

It's an inconvenience - but it'd always going to happen from time to time.

There's other talent out there, and more on the way.
Originally Posted by jkerouac

Jack you described the current DFW scene better than anyone...if a guy had time on his hands, money to burn, and no SO issues he could literally fuck himself into an early grave in this market...

I've got the time and am SO free...unfortunately I don't light my cigars with $100 bills...

Also I'm not a huge proponent of the Plan B approach because many providers get offended if you call them and say "Hi, it's FWOG...I had a meeting in your area that finished up early and I was wondering if I could drop by and see you?"..that's a tipoff to a provider that she is a Plan B, don't you think?

For the record I don't favor a list because it will likely just cause drama.

I do favor encouraging the ladies to respond to all "proper" requests for an appointment and to certainly call you if they can't show for the date! There is no excuse, in my opinion, for not sending an email response to a request for an appointment. Even if she just doesn't like his vibe and turns down the request. It allows him to move on and for her to demonstrate a class act.
There are, without a doubt, many reasons that a timely phone call can not be made to notify a client that they will be a no show. There is, however, no reason a later call or followup email with a simple "I'm sorry" couldn't be done.

I'm very new to the hobby and have sent out 7 very discreet and "proper" requests for an appointment. Out of the 7 - two resulted in great experiences, one responded with a "no thank you" and 4 411 class providers didn't bother to respond, even though their ad said "newbie friendly". That's about 57% not responding! Not so good and I hope it's not the norm.

In my business life I receive many customer emails every day, some are plain stupid, but I answer ALL except the ones that call my ancestry into question. By the way I am also a one person business that wears all the hats.

Sorry for the long post - guess it just hit a nerve.

I'm very new to the hobby and have sent out 7 very discreet and "proper" requests for an appointment. Out of the 7 - two resulted in great experiences, one responded with a "no thank you" and 4 411 class providers didn't bother to respond, even though their ad said "newbie friendly". That's about 57% not responding! Not so good and I hope it's not the norm.
Originally Posted by ForeverYoung

It is not too far off the norm.



This list would just be a huge never ending shit storm, but I will read it.

Maybe make a list of the GOOD guys ....and clients they would really enjoy seeing again ...that is much more positive than listing the jerks (that may be a REALLY long list)......I have only had one BAD experience with a provider and another where I was left with much to desire .BUT hey thats life and Life is not fair..so deal with it ................T