Originally Posted by Scottyputts33
You know, I can understand why some don't like the term "GFE Lite". I don't much like it myself, but I'm not the one that invented it and I had to call it something for the damned poll, which I now realize is "stupid" thanks to your oh-so-insightful feedback. I'm just trying to make conversation and contribute here, attack me for that if you want. Let me propose an alternate approach: the "ignore" button is easy to find if you'd prefer not to ready my posts. K? Originally Posted by SpankyJTyrion, you should be used to being treated like shit.
Stupid poll. GFE is what it is stop trying to redefine the term... Originally Posted by BKThe problem isn't that we're trying to redefine the term... the problem is that the term doesn't have any fixed definition to begin with. It's pretty much up to each hobbyist to determine what is a GFE for him.
Scottyputs33, if you have something to say to me, why not post it out in public for all to see rather than hiding behind private tags like a coward? C'mon, let everyone enjoy your charming personality. Originally Posted by SpankyJWell you seem to have forgotten what your own thread is about, it's about GFE not me. So if you're looking for true GFE why don't you find a RW girlfriend. Oh forgot you probably don't know what that is. BK explained it best.
Well you seem to have forgotten what your own thread is about, it's about GFE not me. So if you're looking for true GFE why don't you find a RW girlfriend. Oh forgot you probably don't know what that is. BK explained it best.Nope, we don't all know that. We only know that you're insinuating it. At least I can respect BK for saying his piece where everyone can see. Unlike you.
As far as my private tag goes, come on now don't play me for stupid we all know it's ML info.
Peace out Boy Originally Posted by Scottyputts33
I meant no disrespect toward anyone, certainly not toward SpankyJ in my comments, reading them now I can see how you might have taken them that way. Originally Posted by BKNo worries BK. Upon reading it again, I can see that you meant nothing bad directed at me and I jumped the gun. My apologies for that. We're good.
while I have used GFE as a term to describe what I might offer..its only in my attempt to not reinvent the wheel..when in rome sorta thingDeAnna, I think you made some valid points. To answer your question about settling - on occasion, if a lady possesses some other talents or attributes I prize highly, I will cut some slack on those I don't prize as highly if she doesn't offer them. I'd absolutely prefer everything be included, of course. I will say that the ladies who provide an excellent GFE both in terms of activities and attitude, rapport, etc. are the ones that get the lion's share of my business. Always have, always will. I'm also less likely to repeat with ones that don't provide an authentic GFE, or if I do not as often as the others.
as an early board member back in 2001 the Term GFE actually never really defined menu items and was more specifically an indication of "attitude" and atmosphere you could anticipate experiencing. The menu was what it was and pretty standard across the acceptable expectations the guys aka paying customers had. bbbj,kissing, both lfk and dfk, daty, were pretty standard expectations. it was the IOP that GFE referred to as far as what guys could expect from the lady..she made you feel like you were with a "girlfriend" and helped you forget you were paying for it. which was suppose to be a step up for "agency girls" and a huge step up from Streetwalkers.
this gfe "lite" which while I don't read ads if it does exist is even more goofy. guys should NOT HAVE TO SETTLE! why would you and still pay?
GFE SHOULD indicate the "experience" you can expect to have..and standard with that experience should be what one would expect IF you was in a relationship..while not every girl in real life may swallow or let you cum on on her face..most girls in a committed relationship do kiss and if they suck dick(many don't hence why guys are here anyways and why the term gfe to describe menu items is stupid) they would do so without a condom
My opinion, things like GFE "lite" and ymmv only exist as excuses for providers to give shitty service while still trying to charge a premium rate and have it swept away with an acronym/code word/etc. Originally Posted by BBWDeAnna
The problem isn't that we're trying to redefine the term... the problem is that the term doesn't have any fixed definition to begin with. It's pretty much up to each hobbyist to determine what is a GFE for him.Indeed. I think the surprising (to me) diversity of opinions in the poll results show how we prioritize different things and what one of us considers "GFE" does not necessarily apply to all of us. I really expected almost everyone to choose "Must have both or I'm not going".
"I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of [experience] I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I [experience] it, and the [experience] involved in this [session] is/is not that."
--adapted from Associate Justice Potter Stewart (dissenting), Jacobellis v. Ohio, 378 U.S. 184, at 197 (1964)
(I want my old mind back. )
Cheers,
bcg Originally Posted by bluffcityguy
DeAnna, I think you made some valid points. To answer your question about settling - on occasion, if a lady possesses some other talents or attributes I prize highly, I will cut some slack on those I don't prize as highly if she doesn't offer them. I'd absolutely prefer everything be included, of course. I will say that the ladies who provide an excellent GFE both in terms of activities and attitude, rapport, etc. are the ones that get the lion's share of my business. Always have, always will. I'm also less likely to repeat with ones that don't provide an authentic GFE, or if I do not as often as the others. Originally Posted by SpankyJ