Difference between GFE and PSE

Interesting turn again on this post!
Annie - I couldn't agree more, glad you see the big picture!
eccl3 - I was goign with your initial post and hoped the follow-up was sarcasm. It's great that people like you and Torito are willing to share your seasoned knowledge with others when you could just as easily say something to the effect of "I figured it out, now you go do the same".. and hopefully come up with the same conclusion. I say bravo for folks like you. It's been my experience that those who share knowledge and help others get further in life than those who try to keep it to themselves like a special secret.
The whole purpose behind forums is sharing of information and ideas. It's sad to see some on the forums that would rather stiffle that by sending people off on tangents. Annie zero'd in on that already! My respects to those that take the time to share what they've learned. Isuspect that there are many that would share that position.

My 2 cents worth...

The way I see it, if a lady says "PSE" in her ad, that means everything (including the "unmentionable act", you all know what that is) is on the table. The only exception would be Greek since even some porn stars don't do Greek.

Sails

I hate labels...I think a "great" session will enatil a little of both!
I call mine the dirty girlfriend experience...whatever happens,happens...and it is all good{lol}

This topic does roll right back around repeatedly just like to shave or not to shave (the bush), personal hygiene topics, upsell/fake pics, pimped or not pimped....oh well, it's good to hear new opinions I guess.
This was the last thread on this topic back in August.

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=281255

There is a lot of gray area here but the major difference is that GFE probably has a little more romantic and sensual element to it whereas PSE is more along the lines of sweaty, body slapping sex with a lot of dirty talk.

Or maybe GFE means that you go out for 3 weeks and talk on the phone a lot before you have sex by candle light after a romantic dinner. PSE means that there is no plot, you don't even know each other's names and you have sex 15 minutes after you meet.

IMO, PSE = Balls to wall, intense, driving sex without a lot of personal "getting to know you" conversation with a totally wide open menu with little restriction. At the end of the session, you're both totally soaking wet with sweat (and other things), and tired.

IMO, GFE is a more laid back, easy-going, slower pace, loving, sensual, connecting with the other person, type of session. Menu may or may not be wide open.

If Greek is OFF the table, she is not PSE.

Do any poviders offer both at the same rate or dif rates?