Another smoking gun — this is now embarrassing (STOLEN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION)...

ICU, while you're positing on change that might even involve constitutional amendment, why not get rid of the electoral college system entirely and make presidential elections popular vote like everything else? Michael harder to "manipulate" individual votes as opposed to a voting "district". On same note, why not have states elect their Representatives statewide, thereby eliminating gerrymandering?

Some of the old ways have likely outlived their usefulness in modern times. Originally Posted by reddog1951

Electoral College more important now than ever. True Democracy's fail quickly.
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we have several people running for House and Senate seats, whose main priority, is emptying our prisons. Who talks like that other than Democrats who have enough money not to be concerned ( Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters ) or have private security or just sick in the head like this guy Federman and Mandela Banks who have no problem at all calling for the release of violent felons and Democrats will vote for them. Originally Posted by HedonistForever
There was a time, not all that long ago, that being “soft on crime” was a death knell for a candidate. Now it’s a campaign slogan.
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For the opposition.
For the opposition. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
^^cold spittle
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... And I explained what happened in Pennsylvania.
Besides the bad ballots over Philly-way, there was all
the late ballots with NO signature verification.
Under state voting rules - they should have been ruled
"illegal" and thus disqualified.

The Dems took the issue all the way to the State Supreme Court.
(5-2 Dems) Where the ruling was that "Due to the exterodinary
co-vid situation and mail-in voting" they would accept the
illegal ballots. ... Which gave Biden the state.

See? ... illegal ballots help rig the election.
So does outright lying about the Hunter laptop.

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again
You have zero proof of any ballots being fraudulent. NONE. Just a lot of BS.
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GEORGIA: One Batch of 23,000 Fraudulent Ballots All For Biden – More than Enough for Trump Win


RIGGED AND STOLEN

No no, Demonrats promise not to do it again

https://gellerreport.com/2020/12/one...rump-win.html/ Originally Posted by Seeking Taint
Total BS. Unfortunately people are going to believe what they want to believe despite absolutely no proof to support the claims. It does not matter to people like you how many times these false claims are debunked. The mantra stays the same: "The election was stolen". The Gateway Pundit is possibly the most biased source of information in this country, or the world, yet you believe every word they write because it supports your POV.

"Fact check: No evidence of fraud in Georgia election results"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ts/5253184001/
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Electoral College more important now than ever. Originally Posted by farmstud60
Why? So a republican like Bush43 or Trump can lose the popular vote can still be president.
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Total BS. Unfortunately people are going to believe what they want to believe despite absolutely no proof to support the claims. It does not matter to people like you how many times these false claims are debunked. The mantra stays the same: "The election was stolen". The Gateway Pundit is possibly the most biased source of information in this country, or the world, yet you believe every word they write because it supports your POV.

"Fact check: No evidence of fraud in Georgia election results"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ts/5253184001/ Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX
+1

Excellent post Speed Racer.
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  • 10-03-2022, 04:43 PM
Agree. You don't even need the 7 states. The top 6 municipalities in the US easily have more than 60 million votes. Think about it. Just 6 cities would elect everything. Originally Posted by buzzlghtyr401
As it is now...basically 3 states elect everything.

Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania
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Why? So a republican like Bush43 or Trump can lose the popular vote can still be president. Originally Posted by adav8s28

The States can decide any time they want to change the Constitution to allow popular vote of the President. Nothing is stopping them if it is the will of the people in a majority of States.
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  • 10-03-2022, 04:46 PM
The change I was thinking of was to alter the mandate that voting be on the first Tuesday in November. The change would be to move election day to a Saturday for 24 hours, or Saturday and Sunday for 48 hours continuously. This seems to be doable.

Addressing the Electoral college would be a near impossibility to achieve. I am not arguing for it or against it in this thread.

Lets do what we can do. Originally Posted by ICU 812
This definitely needs to be implemented.

Vote all weekend.
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The States can decide any time they want to change the Constitution to allow popular vote of the President. Nothing is stopping them if it is the will of the people in a majority of States. Originally Posted by HedonistForever
Two thirds majority of the states.

Still waiting for that ERA to be ratified. Aren't you?
... Good Luck...

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The States can decide any time they want to change the Constitution to allow popular vote of the President. Nothing is stopping them if it is the will of the people in a majority of States. Originally Posted by HedonistForever
A "majority" will not do it. It would take 2/3s of the Senate and House to change the rule. And that won't happen because no Republican would vote for it.
... Good Luck...

### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again
... True That!

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