Providers Not Seeking Business

that's y these flaky princesses have 2 travel often seeking out certain fools that bend over backwards.

Very rarely do I just make a call out of nowhere unless for some reason I'm trying to get a quick, same day session....which happens on occasion. If they don't answer, it's no big deal. I just keep searching until someone either answers, returns my call, returns an email...or answers a P411 request.

Usually, I just send a P411 request which has my phone number and email enclosed. If they want to see me...they contact me.

If I call a number, and the lady answers...I try to keep the conversation as minimal as possible.

Provider: "hello"

Me: "I saw your ad on ECCIE and I'd like to know if you are available."

Provider: " yes I am, do you have any references?"

Me: "yes, I have p411 and I can send you a pm on ECCIE if you prefer."

Provider: " great! Send me a pm and the p411 request and we can see about setting something up."

Me: "Ok...I'll get those sent out ASAP. Hope to see you soon."


That's it! That's all that needs to be said in a phone conversation. You don't need to ask about rates. You don't need to ask about services. You don't need to ask about anything...until after you have been screened and she contacts YOU back. Besides, if the dude does his homework...he can answer his own questions.

Very well stated, Mr. Numbers.

Today I made four phonecalls, all to fairly well reviewed girls. None answered or returned the call within four hours. Two of the phones had mailboxes that were full which shows that they do not check calls very often.

How common is this? Originally Posted by Owlman

speaking for myself... my phone is ALWAYS off unless its the day of incall. I ONLY take prebookings, no same day... and all requests must be through ECCIE pm or 411 pm... so really no point in having my phone on. My ho-phone is just a cheap POS that i have to pay for minutes.. and they are rather expensive.. so I dont risk wasting them on phone calls where someone wants to discuss the weather before getting to the point.

Because my phone is off.. doesnt mean im flaky or dont want business.. plus.. I hear constantly people bitching because pimps call them and rudeness.. never EVER had that problem.. due to simply not giving my number until after screening.

I am sure that helps your business. In most cases you should get a good feel for a guy with a short conversation.

I do not ask the girl for her real name. It is not her business what my name or business is.

If she is reasonably astute, she can tell a lot about a guy in a short call - how does he speak, is he business like, does he talk like a gentleman, does he sound like a kid or does he sound middleaged, how much is he quibbling about price Originally Posted by Owlman

Are you really suggesting the ladies should abandon screening in lieu of just trusting their instincts and hoping they are "reasonably astute" enough to know all they need from talking to you? Seriously?

I don't hobby very much so even though I have been on here and/or the old board for 8-9 years and have 411 there have been a couple of times that I didn't have recent refs and was not approved by a lady. Neither time did I harbor bad feelings for them or ask them to make exception. Too much at risk, hell I wouldn't see them if they weren't well vouched for on here. Why should ask them to take risks that I wouldn't take?

I am sure that helps your business. In most cases you should get a good feel for a guy with a short conversation.

I do not ask the girl for her real name. It is not her business what my name or business is.

If she is reasonably astute, she can tell a lot about a guy in a short call - how does he speak, is he business like, does he talk like a gentleman, does he sound like a kid or does he sound middleaged, how much is he quibbling about price Originally Posted by Owlman

Yes because a good provider can discern where you've hidden the bodies of your other victims in 5 minutes of polite conversation. Ted Bundy spoke was personable, charming, and gentlemanly too.

I agree with Dawn my provider phone is just that...i would prefer a text message or an email either from here or on my p411 account....

Very rarely do I just make a call out of nowhere unless for some reason I'm trying to get a quick, same day session....which happens on occasion. If they don't answer, it's no big deal. I just keep searching until someone either answers, returns my call, returns an email...or answers a P411 request.

Usually, I just send a P411 request which has my phone number and email enclosed. If they want to see me...they contact me.

If I call a number, and the lady answers...I try to keep the conversation as minimal as possible.

Provider: "hello"

Me: "I saw your ad on ECCIE and I'd like to know if you are available."

Provider: " yes I am, do you have any references?"

Me: "yes, I have p411 and I can send you a pm on ECCIE if you prefer."

Provider: " great! Send me a pm and the p411 request and we can see about setting something up."

Me: "Ok...I'll get those sent out ASAP. Hope to see you soon."


That's it! That's all that needs to be said in a phone conversation. You don't need to ask about rates. You don't need to ask about services. You don't need to ask about anything...until after you have been screened and she contacts YOU back. Besides, if the dude does his homework...he can answer his own questions. Originally Posted by john353

You are dream your right its simple as 123 why can't more guys b like u

+1 as stated by John353

I am sure that helps your business. In most cases you should get a good feel for a guy with a short conversation.

I do not ask the girl for her real name. It is not her business what my name or business is.

If she is reasonably astute, she can tell a lot about a guy in a short call - how does he speak, is he business like, does he talk like a gentleman, does he sound like a kid or does he sound middleaged, how much is he quibbling about price Originally Posted by Owlman

You're the kind of guy that would raise a red flag with a provider.
Anyone who doesn't understand a provider's screening methods and why they screen is just
STUPID!!!!!

Totally agree with John!!!

I think some of these girls just like to run teaser ads. Like a grocery store runs loss leaders. Refer to post on pet peaves.