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When it comes right down to it, we are all whores to some extent! Originally Posted by ElamEno

I assume you mean we sell ourselves to the man......

My Dear Elena,
Please elaborate on what the realists believe,
I have been too long in the fantasy world to understand for myself... Originally Posted by LoveWomen

For someone who claims to love women, you're quite naive. Your past posts have proven that, but I'm going to humor myself and answer this.


When you start dating a chick, you want to land her in bed...so, you wine and dine her, you treat her good, you do little things for her and maybe even buy her a small gift. In return, she gives you attention, her feelings and then you end up in bed. Women always put out when gifts are given.....especially big gifts. When you buy her a birthday gift, you get laid......buy her a VDay gift, you get laid.....buy her a anniv. gift, you get laid. See a pattern?

You spend all this time and money trying to land a chick in bed that you like, in hopes of maybe one day marrying her and having kids with her. Most guys also understand that after so much time has gone by, a good way to ensure you're getting laid that, give her a gift that makes her eyes light up. You pay for sex either route you go whether its with a "whore" or your wife/gf.


The chick you married......is a whore. Speaking in general terms of course.

For someone who claims to love women, you're quite naive. Your past posts have proven that, but I'm going to humor myself and answer this.


When you start dating a chick, you want to land her in bed......You pay for sex either route you go whether its with a "whore" or your wife/gf.


The chick you married......is a whore. Speaking in general terms of course. Originally Posted by MsElena

In my opinion...
In some cases, and I will admit they are few, there is a real connection, a soul bonding that does not require gifts. A touching of hearts and eyes, of souls and spirit. I will admit those are rare. The pure physical is not a good way to start a relationship that will last. That is why there is a high divorce rate.

For someone who claims to love women, you're quite naive. Your past posts have proven that, ...


The chick you married......is a whore. ... Originally Posted by MsElena

My Dear Elena,

You are so right, on both counts !

Thanks for your insights...

Hugs and Kisses.

For someone who claims to love women, you're quite naive. Your past posts have proven that, but I'm going to humor myself and answer this.


When you start dating a chick, you want to land her in bed...so, you wine and dine her, you treat her good, you do little things for her and maybe even buy her a small gift. In return, she gives you attention, her feelings and then you end up in bed. Women always put out when gifts are given.....especially big gifts. When you buy her a birthday gift, you get laid......buy her a VDay gift, you get laid.....buy her a anniv. gift, you get laid. See a pattern?

You spend all this time and money trying to land a chick in bed that you like, in hopes of maybe one day marrying her and having kids with her. Most guys also understand that after so much time has gone by, a good way to ensure you're getting laid that, give her a gift that makes her eyes light up. You pay for sex either route you go whether its with a "whore" or your wife/gf.


The chick you married......is a whore. Speaking in general terms of course. Originally Posted by MsElena

My ATF told me something once that I've never forgotten. Once, after a lazy three-hour session on a cold rainy day, she looked at me and asked, "Do you know the difference between a slut and a whore?" I asked what the difference was in her opinion.

"A slut is that girl in high school who fucked all the boys because she wanted to be popular and liked, " she said. "A whore is that girl in high school who fucked all the boys just because she wanted to fuck all the boys." I said I'd never thought of it like that but I saw her point.

She concluded by saying, "A lot of women stop at slut and never make it to whore, and I think that's sad. I'm a whore. I've always been a whore. I love to fuck and I love to make other people happy. As long as someone meets basic requirements for safety and sanity, if they want to fuck me, I'll probably let them. Why wouldn't I? I enjoy it, it gives them pleasure, and we connect as people. It's great thing to share with someone, and we should be doing it a helluva a lot more."

My ATF told me something once that I've never forgotten. Once, after a lazy three-hour session on a cold rainy day, she looked at me and asked, "Do you know the difference between a slut and a whore?" I asked what the difference was in her opinion.

"A slut is that girl in high school who fucked all the boys because she wanted to be popular and liked, " she said. "A whore is that girl in high school who fucked all the boys just because she wanted to fuck all the boys." I said I'd never thought of it like that but I saw her point.

She concluded by saying, "A lot of women stop at slut and never make it to whore, and I think that's sad. I'm a whore. I've always been a whore. I love to fuck and I love to make other people happy. As long as someone meets basic requirements for safety and sanity, if they want to fuck me, I'll probably let them. Why wouldn't I? I enjoy it, it gives them pleasure, and we connect as people. It's great thing to share with someone, and we should be doing it a helluva a lot more." Originally Posted by Happy Camper

Sounds like she was your ATF for good reason!

Ain't it the truth??! I know love has always cost me more than I wanted to pay! lol

Sounds like she was your ATF for good reason! Originally Posted by Staci Stacked

You got that right. She moved to another time zone a couple of years ago; I've been looking for someone who has that some outlook to take her place but I haven't had much luck yet. She was the most natural sexual creature I've ever known. She denied me nothing because (a) she genuinely loved it as well and (b) she truly, humbly loved sharing pleasure with others. She saw it as an act of basic human care and consideration.

She denied me nothing because (a) she genuinely loved it as well and (b) she truly, humbly loved sharing pleasure with others. She saw it as an act of basic human care and consideration. Originally Posted by Happy Camper

As do I...
I don't know how providers make it that don't feel that way!

Did she retire completely or just move? If she retired, it appears the hobby world lost a good one!

As do I...
I don't know how providers make it that don't feel that way!

Did she retire completely or just move? If she retired, it appears the hobby world lost a good one! Originally Posted by Staci Stacked

I haven't had the pleasure of taking you for a test drive, Staci. May have to change that. I'll give you a shout shortly.

She moved, but she wasn't *really* a provider. I mean she was, but she was totally off the grid; never was really on it. She only had me and two other guys that she saw (yes, really...) as a provider. He mom had some very serious health problems and she's helping care for her mom.

Back to the OP's question. Yes - but you have to remember what the relationship really is. Absolutely nothing wrong with caring or feeling extra for a provider, as long as you keep reality in the back of your mind.

I'll let myself fall in love for an hour or two, sometimes longer if its trip somewhere. But then you have to fall out of love and back to real life.

"A slut is that girl in high school who fucked all the boys because she wanted to be popular and liked, " she said. "A whore is that girl in high school who fucked all the boys just because she wanted to fuck all the boys." I said I'd never thought of it like that but I saw her point. Originally Posted by Happy Camper

I don't get her point at all. According to her:

Slut - has sex for the benefits (popularity)
Whore - has sex for the fun of it

That seems to be backwards from the common definitions, where a slut has sex because she wants to and a whore has sex for the benefits (money or material goods).

must be the way it is l fight with the one l see alot just like if l were married to her and that seems fuck up right

Back to the original topic, there was a provider I saw about 90 times over the course of a year and a half that left the biz and the state about 6 months ago. To be honest I felt heartbroken when she left, and I still miss her.

Or you could see me and ill pretend to be your whore of a housewife lol Originally Posted by b@ileythepistol

I've invited you several times...