Obamacare - A fix is being considered for the cancellations

I agree...

Look! If english is your second langauge fighter65 and you don't understand the nuances of how people speak than don't put it on us to explain everything to you. Obama lied! He didn't add any qualifiers, he didn't add any conditionals, he lied to you, to us, to the entire country. Based on this lie he forced this bill through the House (Pelosi--we have to pass the law to know what's in it) and through the Senate (with corrupt deals). He also ran for reelection on the lie. According to the standards of the 1970s he should be impeached (ask Ms Rodham for clarification). Memos have been released that the White House KNEW that people would lose their health insurance because of the law. They KNEW, Obama KNEW but they said it and did it anyway. Worse, they attacked the people who were telling the truth and disparaged them with lies. You are one of those people and so are others on this site.
You all sold your collective souls to roll in the lies. I see some are trying to get them back now. Part of growing is realizing that you did make a mistake and why. You didn't want to believe people like Sarah Palin and other vocal critics who were right on the mark. Part of your redemption should include an apology. Right now, I am sure that some of you are recoiling like a vampire from the cross at the mere mention of Sarah Palin. You are still sick.


In case you missed it and if you watch MSNBC or network news then you probably have, the House has passed a bill that would grandfather ALL policies issued before and after the passage of the ACA. Putting choice back into the hands of Americans. Call your senator and tell them to tell Harry Reid to put it up for a vote.

I agree, in theory. Socialism is a wonderful read and if it were played out as theorized, would result in an almost utopian environment. In reality, the capable, eventually fail to participate, and choose to live off the production of others and therefore are unworthy of receiving the benefit. Originally Posted by nwarounder

Surely socialism has its downfalls, one of which you presented. I don't feel the whole concept should be scrapped. Capitalism is flawed as well, fatally as we practice it.

Socialize medicine. There is so much we can't fix, money is a lousy reason to not fix what we can.

Surely socialism has its downfalls, one of which you presented. I don't feel the whole concept should be scrapped. Capitalism is flawed as well, fatally as we practice it.

Socialize medicine. There is so much we can't fix, money is a lousy reason to not fix what we can. Originally Posted by JohnnyCap

Socialism has killed so many more people in the last century and a half...Stalin starved to death over 17 million people in the Ukraine and Mao starved to death over 60 million and those were on purpose in a small number of years. Imagine all the others who died by neglect and deprivation because they just got in the way.

Surely socialism has its downfalls, one of which you presented. I don't feel the whole concept should be scrapped. Capitalism is flawed as well, fatally as we practice it.

Socialize medicine. There is so much we can't fix, money is a lousy reason to not fix what we can. Originally Posted by JohnnyCap

Look! If english is your second langauge fighter65 and you don't understand the nuances of how people speak than don't put it on us to explain everything to you. Obama lied! He didn't add any qualifiers, he didn't add any conditionals, he lied to you, to us, to the entire country. Based on this lie he forced this bill through the House (Pelosi--we have to pass the law to know what's in it) and through the Senate (with corrupt deals). He also ran for reelection on the lie. According to the standards of the 1970s he should be impeached (ask Ms Rodham for clarification). Memos have been released that the White House KNEW that people would lose their health insurance because of the law. They KNEW, Obama KNEW but they said it and did it anyway. Worse, they attacked the people who were telling the truth and disparaged them with lies. You are one of those people and so are others on this site.
You all sold your collective souls to roll in the lies. I see some are trying to get them back now. Part of growing is realizing that you did make a mistake and why. You didn't want to believe people like Sarah Palin and other vocal critics who were right on the mark. Part of your redemption should include an apology. Right now, I am sure that some of you are recoiling like a vampire from the cross at the mere mention of Sarah Palin. You are still sick.


In case you missed it and if you watch MSNBC or network news then you probably have, the House has passed a bill that would grandfather ALL policies issued before and after the passage of the ACA. Putting choice back into the hands of Americans. Call your senator and tell them to tell Harry Reid to put it up for a vote. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

if you don't know the difference between then and than you need to stfu.

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

uh huh...

Keep laughing, assholes.

Do you want Americans to move out of the third world or not?

Your partisanship blots out your patriotism.

You all should be considered traitors. (Even those of you who are just fucking racists.) Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

That's some funny shit right there!!!

When "Your Rong" man in the White House touted his experience as a "community organizer" for orchestrating the REMOVAL of insolation to "help folks" in a housing project ... he neglected to mention HE DID NOT REPLACE IT with ANY INSULATION, much less with GOOD INSULATION!!

So now that he has crapped up the health insurance business ... he's gonna SAVE US?


You going to make him a hero now?

He reminds me of those fire fighters who start fires so they can go put it out.

They LIE TOO!

The president did not lie. Any policy prior to 2010 can be continued. The ACA was signed in 2010. The policies that are being cancelled started after 2010. The law as written does not apply to these policies. The White House is considering options to fix the cancellation problem. You right wingers can calm down. Originally Posted by flghtr65

The reason why this is factually inaccurate .. and bullshit ... is ..

"The Secretary" writes and publishes the REGULATIONS and the REGULATIONS establish the standards for "acceptable coverage" for purposes of the ACA.

#2, IF ONE READS the ACA .. (and I made this observation BEFORE IT WAS SIGNED) the provisions regarding JUDICIAL REVIEW are extremely limited.

#3: The insurance company is PROHIBITED from selling a policy that DOES NOT COMPLY WITH REGULATIONS ..

#3: NO ONE HAS A POLICY THAT EXISTED IN 2010!!!!

LET ME REPEAT .. NO ONE!

MINE, AND YOURS, WILL BE A "NEW POLICY" EFFECTIVE JAN 1ST!

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

And what makes you think we aren't you fucking half-wit. I cannot wait to see the Toilet Paper party sink whoever the GOP nominee is in 2016 by supporting some loony third party extremist who will siphon off 6% to 8% of the vote thereby guaranteeing another 4 to 8 years of a Democrat in the White House. The Tea Party is the best thing to happen to the Dems in years. You're just too fucking stupid to recognize it.

Surely socialism has its downfalls, one of which you presented. I don't feel the whole concept should be scrapped. Capitalism is flawed as well, fatally as we practice it.

Socialize medicine. There is so much we can't fix, money is a lousy reason to not fix what we can. Originally Posted by JohnnyCap

We do have socialized medicine now, the only question left to answer is, will the people participate. So far, it looks like the answer is no.

And what makes you think we aren't you fucking half-wit. I cannot wait to see the Toilet Paper party sink whoever the GOP nominee is in 2016 by supporting some loony third party extremist who will siphon off 6% to 8% of the vote thereby guaranteeing another 4 to 8 years of a Democrat in the White House. The Tea Party is the best thing to happen to the Dems in years. You're just too fucking stupid to recognize it. Originally Posted by timpage

So you're saying that the democratic party is so inept, corrupt, and stupid that the only way they can win is if there is a third party candidate? You know, like they did in Virginia.

Socialism has killed so many more people in the last century and a half...Stalin starved to death over 17 million people in the Ukraine and Mao starved to death over 60 million and those were on purpose in a small number of years. Imagine all the others who died by neglect and deprivation because they just got in the way. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Socialism didn't kill anyone.

We do have socialized medicine now, the only question left to answer is, will the people participate. So far, it looks like the answer is no. Originally Posted by nwarounder

I don't believe it is socialized, it is still very much for profit.