GFE is stupid and should be banned!!

If it's PR speak then it has no meaning, and that's not so.

It is the activities involved, simple as that, not really the
least bit complicated, the lack of those activities would
be non GFE.

Whether or not a Provider is good or not in her delivery
of those services is another question, and relative to
each individual provider. Don't confuse the two. Originally Posted by bojulay

Sir, I understand what you are saying, I just do not agree.

BBBJ, DATY, DFK, etc., are reasonably well defined terms. If a lady says BBBJ is on the list, then everyone should have a reasonable expectation what that means.

But GFE is no such thing. If it means anything it is attitude, and since I agree that is relative, thus my argument that it is a meaningless term.

I know ladies who do BBBJ, DFK, DATY, and a whole lot of other things that give absolutely NO sense of GF. They may be very good at what they do, but their attitude is either businesslike, or mechanical, or with a sense of "get off already, will you?" To say that she is a "GFE" because of certain activities is an insult to all GFs, real or temporary.

On the other hand there are pleanty of ladies who have an attitude that says, "Hi, I'm really glad to see you!" Hugs, kisses, smiles, not at all a clock watcher, and pays attention to the man's ego as well as his anatomy. If one of your supposed activities is missing she is far closer to a "GFE" than a wide-open provider who tries to get you off and out the door as quickly as possible.

You can restate your list over and over, it doesn't make it so.

Where I absolutely agree with you is do your homework. If a lady says no more than "I'm a GFE", be very careful. If you can't confirm that what you want is available, best go somewhere else.

She is retired now, but Amy of DC fame (and many reviews on here) is a prime example of an absolute sweetheart who was described over and over as "real GF material", but missed on one of your items. There are others of course, but she was the first one that comes to mind.

Don't increase the chances you will be disapointed, don't read artificial things into "GFE" terms. You are certainly not going to tell me that "Giant Sized" has a definition, are you? If you want to know how much you're getting, look at the ounces or pounds. Same thing here. Personally I will continue to use "GFE" to convey attitude; I will list acronyms to convey activities. Pretty straight forward.

Sir, I understand what you are saying, I just do not agree.

BBBJ, DATY, DFK, etc., are reasonably well defined terms. If a lady says BBBJ is on the list, then everyone should have a reasonable expectation what that means.

But GFE is no such thing. If it means anything it is attitude, and since I agree that is relative, thus my argument that it is a meaningless term.

I know ladies who do BBBJ, DFK, DATY, and a whole lot of other things that give absolutely NO sense of GF. They may be very good at what they do, but their attitude is either businesslike, or mechanical, or with a sense of "get off already, will you?" To say that she is a "GFE" because of certain activities is an insult to all GFs, real or temporary.

On the other hand there are pleanty of ladies who have an attitude that says, "Hi, I'm really glad to see you!" Hugs, kisses, smiles, not at all a clock watcher, and pays attention to the man's ego as well as his anatomy. If one of your supposed activities is missing she is far closer to a "GFE" than a wide-open provider who tries to get you off and out the door as quickly as possible.

You can restate your list over and over, it doesn't make it so.

Where I absolutely agree with you is do your homework. If a lady says no more than "I'm a GFE", be very careful. If you can't confirm that what you want is available, best go somewhere else.

She is retired now, but Amy of DC fame (and many reviews on here) is a prime example of an absolute sweetheart who was described over and over as "real GF material", but missed on one of your items. There are others of course, but she was the first one that comes to mind.

Don't increase the chances you will be disapointed, don't read artificial things into "GFE" terms. You are certainly not going to tell me that "Giant Sized" has a definition, are you? If you want to know how much you're getting, look at the ounces or pounds. Same thing here. Personally I will continue to use "GFE" to convey attitude; I will list acronyms to convey activities. Pretty straight forward. Originally Posted by Old-T

I understand what you are saying, you are talking about the elusive
IOP Illusion Of Passion which can vary just like anything else.

I'm saying that there are a certain set of activities that almost everyone
would agree on are the basic GFE activities.

To what level of excellence a girl performs them can be very relative
and specific to her, no acronym could cover that.

If a girl offers BBBJ and DFK those are GFE activities.
To say she does them poorly is to say she offers a
poor GFE experience.

But you couldn't argue that if she didn't offer those
GFE activities at all in the first place.


John Deere made my point in his first post.

You can have a good girlfriend or a bad one
but she would still be considered your girlfriend.

(GFE ACTIVITIES) should be the term, that is just the
basic starting point, how well they are preformed
is another question.

That is where research comes into play, reviews,
word of mouth and so forth.

You go see a girl and she kisses poorly and gives
a terrible BBBJ, all teeth, she can still call herself
GFE because of the activities she preformed,
she is just a really lousy one.

I always start with the basic activities that a girl
offers and go from there if BBBJ and LFK, DFK
are not even on the menu, I go on to the next one.

If they are, then that is only where I begin the research.

I don't think the term GFE should be done away with
just understood that it is only speaking of a basic
set of activities offered.

The quality of performance of those activities (Like I said)
will always be relative to the individual provider
offering them.

I think that in this particular arena, GFE doesn't refer to "real life" girlfriend experiences. I feel it is used to describe a provider that offers a more affectionate session. The type of experience that allows kissing, back rubs, listening to complaints about life and work. When I say I offer GFE, that means we are going to laugh, relax, talk and enjoy each others company in addition to the intimate encounter. That means I remember you, I don't rush, I am engaging, attentive and I make sure you leave knowing that we both enjoyed ourselves.

I offer an excellent "hobby GFE" but in the real world....eh
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I dont know what bbcr...but that is thw perineum. Or in orher words that thin patch pf skin between your anus and genitailia. Originally Posted by gimme_that

Thinck aural loving.

This is a funny thread, I appreciate your input

You do realize there is a big difference between a rent-a-girlfriend and a girlfriend that is emotionally attached right? The ones that can pull off the "girlfriend experience" with somebody they just meet should be given an academy award. It takes that level of acting. I've meet two. They ain't a dime a dozen that's for sure.

Beezy

You do realize there is a big difference between a rent-a-girlfriend and a girlfriend that is emotionally attached right? The ones that can pull off the "girlfriend experience" with somebody they just meet should be given an academy award. It takes that level of acting. I've meet two. They ain't a dime a dozen that's for sure. Originally Posted by beezdat

Beezy Originally Posted by beezdat

I too have met only a couple that I would qualify as GFE.
It is just that. A Girlfriend Experience. Like going out and her taking on the roll and if done right, she does deserve an award.

Hmmm, reminds me of a movie:
"Edward is a rich, ruthless businessman who specializes in taking over companies and then selling them off piece by piece. He travels to Los Angeles for a business trip and decides to hire a prostitute. They take a liking to each other and he offers her money if she'll stay with him for an entire week while he makes the "rich and famous" scene (since it doesn't do for a man of his stature to be alone at society parties and polo matches). "

You do realize there is a big difference between a rent-a-girlfriend and a girlfriend that is emotionally attached right? The ones that can pull off the "girlfriend experience" with somebody they just meet should be given an academy award. It takes that level of acting. I've meet two. They ain't a dime a dozen that's for sure.

Beezy Originally Posted by beezdat

True.

I think that kind of experience can only really be had with an ATF
that you have gotten to know over a period of time and would
even be considered something more close to a lover.
Even though the relationship would still be under that of a
(Client--Provider relationship.)

Yes, that I think would be considered the real true ultimate
GFE experience.

What myself and others refer to should really be called
GFE activities.

What is referred to above would be considered the ultimate
GFE experience.

If someone is wanting that (Ultimate Girlfriend Experience)
It could probably only ever be had with someone you have
gotten to know over a period of time. Just basic human nature
that there is really no getting around.

the real irony here is in the customers attempting to define the service...

True.

I think that kind of experience can only really be had with an ATF
that you have gotten to know over a period of time and would
even be considered something more close to a lover.
Even though the relationship would still be under that of a
(Client--Provider relationship.)

Yes, that I think would be considered the real true ultimate
GFE experience.

What myself and others refer to should really be called
GFE activities.

What is referred to above would be considered the ultimate
GFE experience.

If someone is wanting that (Ultimate Girlfriend Experience)
It could probably only ever be had with someone you have
gotten to know over a period of time. Just basic human nature
that there is really no getting around. Originally Posted by bojulay

That's my interpretation of GFE, the activities like you said. The OP may be confusing the two and putting unrealistic expectations on these providers. However, a true ultimate girlfriend experience as you put it can be had here. It just isn't that common but she is out there, in hobbyland

Beezy

Someone woke up on wrong side of bed it seems.....

so let me ask you guys this: how did you come to your interpretation of what gfe should mean?

and, no, sooner. not at all. just bored with the cowboys game! lol!

Someone woke up on wrong side of bed it seems..... Originally Posted by OklahomaSooner

Or his expectations are so high of a/ the provider(s), that a real life live in gf couldn't meet his gfe expectations.

Too much porn. I like and know what I likey. It's MINE. She does nothing but go about who she is and what she is about. I choose her...NOW, if she chooses me too, damn...that's a ONCE in a LIFETIME Experience!

ok...now two of you rocket scientists have suggested i don't know the difference or have expectations that are too high. please re-read, but slower this time, mmmkay? this has nothing to do with either of those things, it's simply a conversation about advertising and perceptions.