Screening newbies!

I was on aspd for a few years, and have been on here for awhile. Dont post much, so I guess I would be called a newbie. Very difficult for me too get screened even though I have seen a couple of nice ladies.(Both of which are retired). I understand it would be a nightmare too try to screen me. I am 64 yrs old and retired. Therefore I just keep the big dreams and the big wallet because like I said, it would be a nightmare too try too screen me. One of these days I am going too try for a goodlooking lady that spends some time in my part of the world.

I am from out of town and used to travel alot to Houston, Dallas, Toronto, Montreal, and Germany. I posted my strip club and escort experiences on ASPD, WSG, and Canada Board. I usually get to see the provider when I told them to look at my reviews on these boards as verification. ASPD would crashed and some of these reviews were lost. Now with ASPD gone it is hard to see a provider since they cannot see past review from there. I am a paying member with ASPD since 2001 and many providers like that. I have been away from the Dallas and Houston scene for about four years and thinking about dipping back in.

Listen up ladies - newbies and out of towners are what are going to keep your business flowing. Perhaps you should just stop advertising on the message boards and set up mailing lists among your favorite clients only. As a long time hobbyist I have been coming to Dallas forever and I can find no more difficult a city to get a lady to see me then this town. I have many reviews on TER and a BCD paid membership on ASPD forever. I participate on message boards in my hometown. I have no local refs here in Dallas. Just spent a week trying to hook up with 5 providers as I was on a work trip. A couple ladies I did send refs from my hometown. Guess what? Neither lady checked the refs but did lead me to believe all was good. Result? When the time came - NCNS! I hope your client base is good because based on my experience I will absolutely not recommend anyone and will tell folks to avoid ladies in Dallas based on the unwelcome treatment I received. You must have some real gems if you are unwilling or unable to make new gents feel welcome.

I'm sort of new to this. I have seen only one provider two times and had a great time. I do not mind being screened even if it takes a couple of weeks. I want to be safe also and I think screening allows both parties to get to know each other a bit better before they meet in person. Sabrina take your time.

Gina p411 is good advice - my first screen years ago was with her. They did call the office to verify my employment (and it was small, too) but it was as vanilla as a cold sales call and I never felt any risk. On that note, it takes some balls and a little risk to be in the hobby anyway.

Dallas girls tough to see? Not many other places I'd bother hobbying, from what I've seen. If a decline here or there means a lot of really top quality ladies stay safe (and around) then I'm good with it.

Oh, a special thanks to the ladies who DO risk being "Newbie Friendly". I'm so slow, practically every lady I've seen is retired now, so they're pretty hard to reference. I've been practically a newbie for about 7 years now.

For the ladies part, I'd say, require at least P411 or "GTFO", like they say on the interwebz.

My 2 cents...

Listen up ladies - newbies and out of towners are what are going to keep your business flowing. Perhaps you should just stop advertising on the message boards and set up mailing lists among your favorite clients only. As a long time hobbyist I have been coming to Dallas forever and I can find no more difficult a city to get a lady to see me then this town. I have many reviews on TER and a BCD paid membership on ASPD forever. I participate on message boards in my hometown. I have no local refs here in Dallas. Just spent a week trying to hook up with 5 providers as I was on a work trip. A couple ladies I did send refs from my hometown. Guess what? Neither lady checked the refs but did lead me to believe all was good. Result? When the time came - NCNS! I hope your client base is good because based on my experience I will absolutely not recommend anyone and will tell folks to avoid ladies in Dallas based on the unwelcome treatment I received. You must have some real gems if you are unwilling or unable to make new gents feel welcome. Originally Posted by srvfan

Look srvfan, you cant tell a lady how to run her business...Not everyone
is willing to see a newbie as in brand new to the hobby..I am NOT talking
about a newbie that doesnt post, write reviews or is a lurker... I am one
of ladies that will not see a gentleman that is brand new to the hobby...
This is my personal preference and It is not going to make or break my
business....and I see plenty of guys fromout of town and they all know
the drill...and yes they have references ready when calling...I am going
to look out for #1 and that is me buddy....If I dont have a way to screen
a gentleman, how do I know it isn't some rapist, murder or the LE that is
calling me for an appointment? You see all money ain't good money....I
love myself to much to take the chance....that is why it is so important
for all ladies to screen and if you dont understand that, then it is your
problem buddy.. not our's...we are the ones (providers) that have
everything to lose....not you.....

It would all depend on your definition of a "newbie". I have only posted on here like 3 times maybe, but have been in the hobby when most providers weren't even in school!

And maybe some providers will know from a conversation and some wont, but a person that is experienced will know what to ask and how to ask without incriminating himself or the person he is asking.

I have the utmost respect for the ladies, and if I come across one that feels like they shouldnt see me for whatever reason, then I just move on. No need to generate any drama. There is plenty to go around on both sides if you know what you are doing.

Peace

I am curious as to how a provider would screen me. Here is all the information I could give. My name is XXXX, I live in a small town, I am married, I am 64 yrs old, and retired from XXXX. I am 6'1" tall, weigh 175lbs, have a short neatly trimmed white beard. That is basically all the information I could give a lady. The providers I have seen, we e mailed a few times, then we talked on the phone, and they took a chance. This is all the info I could give to p411 also. There is another provider that said she would see me, but she doesnt give references, as she is UTR. That being said, how the hell could I be screened. Any interested ladies please feel free to pm me lol.

Svr~ a couple of thoughts.

"newbies and out of towners are what are going to keep your business flowing"
....Wrong. Ladies can have a very successful business only seeing gentlemen with references. Giving refs or belonging to a screening service is the norm. Only about 5% of my emails are from guys who have no references and no screening membership (P411, RoomService2000, etc.) By the way, being a newbie can still work. I see newbies all the time, as long as they have P411 membership or other screening info.

"newbies and out of towners are what are going to keep your business flowing".
...as far as not seeing gentlemen from out of town, Dallas-Fort Worth is a HUGE market, meaning a lady can have a very successful business without having to see out-of-towners. So your statement is wrong. It's an assumption on your part, but with no data to back it up.


I'm sorry your particular situation sucks, but that doesn't make your experience the norm. Most ladies in Dallas see plenty of locals and/or people with screening memberships or references. Because YOU can't get seen doesn't mean that the majority of other guys also aren't being seen.


"Listen up Ladies" It's always funny to me when a guy wants to give advice to an entire metroplex of ladies on how to improve their business.

(Like, Gee I'm so glad you posted, SVR! Now I know why I'm not able to meet up with anyone. NOT! My/our system is working beautifully and makes me comfortable both emotionally and financially.)

I am curious as to how a provider would screen me. Here is all the information I could give. My name is XXXX, I live in a small town, I am married, I am 64 yrs old, and retired from XXXX. I am 6'1" tall, weigh 175lbs, have a short neatly trimmed white beard. That is basically all the information I could give a lady. The providers I have seen, we e mailed a few times, then we talked on the phone, and they took a chance. This is all the info I could give to p411 also. There is another provider that said she would see me, but she doesnt give references, as she is UTR. That being said, how the hell could I be screened. Any interested ladies please feel free to pm me lol. Originally Posted by Ranchhand

I could screen you based on those tidbits . (But I'm certainly not going to post the specifics here on a public board where law enforcement is known to hang out.)

I am a newbie and I only work here from out of town, and it can be very frustrating seeing girls in Dallas. I had some luck with a couple girls to start off with, but for the last week or so I have hit dead ends trying to see a few girls.

Please do not bump threads over 30 days old!

Chipper

p411 p411 p411
it is simple and great

I think the proper reaction from them should be disappointment. If they get "upset" that says a lot about what level of respect you can expect from them.

It is to easy to get proper references. Those who want to take the "fast track" can go to he..(er)...BP.

I would have to agree with you Sabrina.absolutely.one can never be too careful. I am not a newbie, but I do have p411 acct though..been on there for 3 yrs or so, no okays. Zero. yes, I had dates, just not anything recently. I am what you would call a low volume hobbyist sticking to a few I have seen as my regulars..so I don't stray outside my favorite due to familiarity and I know absolutely I am going to have a wonderful time , my loyalty to her, although sometimes our schedules don't line up as often as I would like.



So if I want to see someone new, it is pretty difficult for me, due to I don't have any okay referrals. I can list the ones, and if one calls them up..I personally don't think they would remember me at all. Some gals insist on 2 recent referrals along with p411, it seems. It doesn't hurt my feelings at all, I understand and move on.

Yes, I remember Gina verifying me, a little bit nerve wrecking, but the process went smoothly so thanks to Gina.

I find it hard at times to screen new members,I been getting alot of request from new members with no post or reviews and it seems they get upset when I try to explain safety comes first.So now I am to the point of tring to get some help or feedback on how to screen a new member!Thanks to all the members that take the time help us out,being a new provider I have alot to learn..... Originally Posted by sabrina nicole

I feel ya on this one. I've been around for about a year and I've been pissing people off with screening since day 1! They will make you feel bad, they will try to convince you otherwise, they will offer up all sorts of information, but trust me it is just NOT worth it without p411 or reputable references.

There are newbie friendly girls on the boards, they are veterans and give great references. So let them pay a visit to those girls who are more secure with newbies and get an OKAY before they come see you. Nothing ever comes before your safety, it is never worth it. You can't put a price on safety.

I'd love to be able to see anyone who wants to see me, but being comfortable and safe during a session is more important to me than being accomodating to a guy who wants an appt on short notice and has never seen an provider before. Too many risks. Plus the sessions runs much more smoothly if I know Provider A and B have seen him before and they said he was a great guy. I won't be wondering if he shorted money in the envelope or if he's going to try to choke me or force bbfs.

I am sure 99.9% of newbies are great guys, but in this business you can never be too sure.

If you ever have a "feeling" something isn't right, follow your instinct.

xoxo