Trump and the anthem

When a guy pulls "libtard" out his ass, there is no need to argue anymore because you can tell his level of intelligence.

Anyone who has a public forum, and does that, should consider this.

Kneeling is a sign of SUBMISSION.
Standing together is a show of UNITY.

As a nation we decided that we don't kneel to anyone except perhaps our choice of Gods. I do believe that Trump should just shut up about it and let us deal with it.

The 1st amendment does give you the right to say what your want. It also says you have to suffer the consequences of your words. Both sides should remember that.

My team won so I don't care.

To Aroundagain: I could't disagree more with your statement ..... but when someone posts "This is not about our nation so much as it's about Trump - people aren't protesting our anthem, they're using it as an opportunity to protest Trump, and it's getting huge", well then there is no need to argue anymore because you can tell his level of intelligence ..... yes these players do have a constitutional right to protest our Anthem as they see fit, just as the owners should express their constitutional rights and fire every one of them that do so ..... and about Trump .....when he gets on twitter to express his constitutional right to express his opinions, which seems to cause an uproar with so many liberals, it makes me swell up with pride knowing I did the right thing in voting for him ..... the more these "libtards" scream and get upset, the more I realize he's doing something right .....

The 1st amendment does give you the right to say what your want. It also says you have to suffer the consequences of your words. Originally Posted by RyanFromTER

I do believe that Trump should just shut up about it and let us deal with it. Originally Posted by Loxly

Before Trump made his comments, a handful of players around the NFL knelt in protest. Now it is several players, if not all, on many teams, kneeling in protest. I don't know if this controversy basically started by Trump will hurt him, help him, or have no impact. But I'm with you -- Trump should have kept his mouth shut and focused on the important issues of the Presidency.

Before Trump made his comments, a handful of players around the NFL knelt in protest. Now it is several players, if not all, on many teams, kneeling in protest. I don't know if this controversy basically started by Trump will hurt him, help him, or have no impact. But I'm with you -- Trump should have kept his mouth shut and focused on the important issues of the Presidency. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Agreed. Now the original protest has been clouded because some are protesting Trump's response to the protest. And then of course we have the usual idiot lemmings who just do it because everyone else is doing it and God forbid they miss out on the next great behavioral trend.

Ummm, ok.

By the same token, weren't the people who ousted Brendan Eich at Mozilla infringing on his freedom of speech? Were the folks who boycotted Chick-Fil-A opposing Dan Cathy's free speech? Is Google anti-freedom of speech for firing James Damore?

Why do you keep ducking those questions? Do they make you uncomfortable? Do you only defend freedom of speech for those expressing views you agree with? Are you afraid to think it all through? Originally Posted by lustylad

The above examples are not the same. People can boycott a company or an organization if they don't like their policies articulated by their right to free speech. Derek303 is doing this with the NFL as stated in post #1 in this thread, some people did it to Chick-Fil-A, some are doing with this on ECCIE with non-OPEC pricing providers, some are boycotting staying at Trump properties, the list goes on and on.

The others mentioned are people in trouble with their jobs/industry due to their actions. Colin Kapernick can't get hired by teams needing a QB, most likely due to his taking his stance - right or wrong -on cops-on-black violence. Same as James Damore and Brendan. Employees of companies are not afforded freedom of ramifications for their exercise of free speech. If the Cowboy's Zeke or Zak performed some sort of protest and Jerry Jones waived them, it would be the similar. Of course, I am not sure he would waive or even trade them. Biz is biz. Lol.

Anyone who has a public forum, and does that, should consider this.

Kneeling is a sign of SUBMISSION.
Standing together is a show of UNITY.

As a nation we decided that we don't kneel to anyone except perhaps our choice of Gods. I do believe that Trump should just shut up about it and let us deal with it. Originally Posted by Loxly

What's funny is that they are protesting Trump by kneeling before him! I bet the players don't see the irony in it!

What's funny is that they are protesting Trump by kneeling before him! I bet the players don't see the irony in it! Originally Posted by centexguy

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/h...g-to-kneeling/

What's funny is that they are protesting Trump by kneeling before him! I bet the players don't see the irony in it! Originally Posted by centexguy

A draft dodging Russia colluding lying dotard talkin' 'bout someone protesting peacefully?
They are protesting police brutality not the national anthem.

Donald Trump 'so proud' of Nascar plan to sack anyone that protests against national anthem.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/u...-a7965846.html

Breaking News: Sport with one of the largest conservative white fanbases is praised by Trump while he attacks the players/leagues of sports with some of the largest black fanbases.
Can't wait for the day Mueller tosses this ignorant puke in a cell with a dude named Cedric who makes him a little bitch!

When a guy pulls "libtard" out his ass, there is no need to argue anymore because you can tell his level of intelligence. Originally Posted by Aroundagain

The word "libtard" has been in widespread circulation for many years. Maybe the reason you never heard it before is you've been going aroundagain in circles all the time.

Perhaps you will find this definition helpful. Fyi - I didn't pull it out of my ass; it's from the Urban Dictionary.


Libtard
As repetitive as it sounds, it stands for "liberal retard."

A libtard wants to live in a fantasy world (in which life is the way that they WISH IT WAS) as opposed to dealing with life the way it actually is.

(This explains the religious fervor that many of them demonstrate when it comes to smoking pot).

The most idealistic libtard envisions a time when science/technology and Socialism will eliminate all poverty, hunger, war, disease, injustice, unemployment and prejudice. (It is a nice pipe dream but human nature will forever stand in the way of that goal).

Most libtards subscribe to the notion that "people are basically good", and build their foundation for activism and "improving the human condition" on that faulty premise. Because they deny the facts about human nature, their "reasoning" is diametrically opposite to common sense (blue states vs. red states).

The reality that people have different initiative levels, are basically selfish, and often work for their own interests before helping others, puts a libtard's panties in a wad. So, when citizens will not voluntarily comply with various libtard prescriptions for "the common good", then laws must be passed, or force used, to MAKE them comply. (It is the gradual path to totalitarianism).

Likewise, his/her naïve cries of: "can't we all just get along?" and "there is nothing worth dying for" are red flags for anyone with a clue.

Metaphorically speaking, a libtard is a sheep who thinks that their grasp of diplomatic nuance or metaphysical sensitivity will prevent their flock from being devoured by the world's Islamic/Communist wolves. When America, the sheep dog, responds to wolf attacks, the libtard judges these defensive actions as offensive and wolfish.

Since libtards are unable to recognize our enemies for what they are, they cannot be trusted to safeguard our future.

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In a large nutshell, a libtard's goal in life includes one or more of the following:

--the establishment of a Socialist "utopia" (a.k.a. a global nanny state)
--"benevolent" totalitarian control of the world's population through any means necessary
--ever increasing government micromanagement of private enterprise (a.k.a. clueless meddling)
--the adoption of laws, treaties and tax regulations that hinder America's competitiveness
--the usurpation of the legislative process, at all levels, through judicial fiat
--the filing of specious law suits in order to thwart the will of the people (e.g. Calif. Proposition. 187)
--the promotion of the tyranny of the minority
--the filing of specious law suits to shakedown corporations for cash (under the guise of "social responsibility")
--the disproportionate taxation of citizens "who have more money than they need"
--the redistribution of wealth from producers to non-producers (under the guise of "fairness")
--the banning and confiscation of all privately owned guns (even though it has lead to genocide)
--the abolition of all private property rights
--the destruction of all national sovereignty (America first, of course)
--the destruction of Capitalism
--the establishment of one religion (with no personal accountability), OR the abolition of all religion
--the appeasement of Islamic radicals and their American front groups like CAIR (see: Religion of Pieces)
--the regulation, or banning, of all opposition media (under the guise of "fairness")
--the appeasement of Communist dictators and their American front groups
--the further insertion of Socialist ideology and indoctrination into public school curricula
--the purposeful "dumbing down" of the masses through inane public school curricula and pedagogy
--mass thought control through "speech codes" and political correctness
--the further promulgation of the homosexual/pedophile agenda
--the teaching of HATE (superficially disguised as "Women's Studies", "African Studies", etc.)
--the legalization of marijuana ("far OUT, man")
--the establishment of world wide socialized medicine (under the guise of "fairness")
--the conservation of the environment over the conservation of the American economy
--the demonization of attempts to make English America’s national language
--world peace (which genocidal dictators define as: "the absence of conflict"--dead men cannot resist your brutal oppression)
--the conservation of the environment over the conservation of humanity
--the promotion of abortion as birth control, eugenics, and teaching the theory of evolution as fact (even though the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics precludes it from the get-go)
--the abolition of individual freedom
--anarchy

Not surprisingly, there is a thread of anti-Americanism that runs through these ideas. A libtard cannot stomach the idea that America, despite its faults, is the greatest country in the world. As such, he/she sees it as their duty to tarnish the country's current and past image using all available means including: cherry picking facts and using innuendo, half-truths, lies and fabrications (see: Rathergate).

Libtards’ actions undermine America's educational system, economy, criminal justice system, military personnel, sovereignty, security, and freedoms. Meanwhile, they try to fabricate a moral equivalence with rogue nations like China, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, Syria, Somalia and Sudan. (But don't question their patriotism).

NOTE TO ALL MALCONTENTS: If America is truly evil, please pick yourself a better country.

If the health care system in Cuba, Canada or Great Britain is superior to America's, then you are free to leave. If the crime rate in China, North Korea or the Magic Kingdom is so much lower, then you too are free to leave. Not enough hedonism for you? Then try Amsterdam, Bangkok or Tijuana.

If life in general is better in Sweden, The Netherlands or Switzerland then WHY are you still here??? You talk big, but you lack the courage of your convictions. So do humanity a favor--shut up and move away.

Otherwise get a real job, and get a life, because you obviously have WAY too much time on your hands.

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Because most libtards are pantheists (New Agers), agnostics, atheists, liberal Jews, liberal Catholics, or have otherwise turned their backs on Jehovah, they lack true spiritual fulfillment. In order to try and fill that void, and "to make a difference", they work for the causes listed above. A pretty complete listing can be found at discoverthenetworks.org.

A libtard will participate in protests, rallies, marches, bike rides, etc. in a feckless attempt to change whatever supposedly needs changing (see: muckadoo). Their desire to revisit the "glory" days of the 60's is sometimes a driving force. Regardless, the end result is usually the same: nothing actually changes.

But, since a libtard wants to be rated for his/her good intentions, versus actual results, they leave these activities with a feeling of success "because they have raised awareness" or "let their voices be heard." Post-protest gatherings often feature excessive drinking, drug abuse, and impromptu fornication to celebrate the "victory."

Because conservatives take responsibility for themselves and their children, have real jobs, under gird the economy, and value their time, their counter protesting is often negligible.

It is not that they don't care about their causes; they just understand that 1968 tactics are useless. Likewise, their sense of self worth does not come from how well they perform at work, or in life, but from a realization that they have been given a good and satisfying destiny that no one can take away.

With all of this in mind, may we NOW question a libtard's patriotism???
“You are listening to CNN, the Communist News Network.”

Anchorman: “Good morning, I’m E. Feet Liberal. Our top story, disastrous former mayor of Cleveland, Dennis Cucinich, has been appointed to head the newly created Department of Rainbows, Unicorns and Dandelions. When told of his appointment, Cucinich remarked,

‘As former ambassador to the Crab Nebula, I am looking forward to bringing my diplomatic expertise to the problem of terrorist, er, civilly challenged attacks on our planet. I even stopped by a gift shop on Alpha Centauri and bought a new pair of rose colored glasses!’

We now go to Chip Onner-Shoulder for a live report.”

Womyn Reporter: “Thanks E. Secretary Cucinich wasted no time in convening a meeting with top terrorist, er, civilly challenged leaders and their fellow travelers from CAIR. Among the items on the agenda were: convert to Islam or DIE, the institution of Shari’a, the obliteration of Israel, and bringing them the head of Jerry Springer on a stick. Let’s listen in.”

Cucinich: “There there Abdul, why don’t we all take a ten minute break and go to our ‘happy places’?”

Terrorist, er, Civilly Challenged heathen: “You're a clueless libtard. Death to those who insult Islam!”

Cucinich: “Now now Abdul, I know that the civilly challenged have legitimate grievances, but America has a Band-Aid big enough for any third world boo boo. Hey what’s that under your dirty nightshirt?”

KA-BOOOOOOM!!!

Womyn Reporter: “Oh my Gaia! That man just detonated an explosive vest. He must have been a Mossad agent. I’ll try and get a comment from CAIR’s spokeswhore. Excuse me sir, was this the work of Israeli intelligence?”

CAIR Spokeswhore: “Of course it was you decadent whore! And how dare you show your ankle in public! Now kneel down and receive your beating.”

Womyn Reporter: “But I thought Islam was the Religion of Peace!”

CAIR Spokeswhore: “It IS. And if you call us violent, we’ll kill you!”

Womyn Reporter: “Can we stand in a circle and sing Kumbayah?”

CAIR Spokeswhore: (smacks forehead) “ALLAH no!”

Womyn Reporter: “Can’t we all just get along?”

CAIR Spokeswhore: “Yes, when you’re dead.”

Womyn Reporter: (backing up) “Stay away from me you seventh century, scum-sucking pig dog, and put DOWN that scimitar! Hellllp!”

Anchorman: “Chip! Chip are you still there? Well, we seem to be having some technical difficulties with Chip’s mic.

In other news, the Sierra Club is lobbying Congress to develop wind-powered commuter jets. Club spokeswhore Molly ‘Bean Sprout’ Jones commented, ‘They’re already up in the air; so what’s the difficulty?’”

A draft dodging Russia colluding lying dotard talkin' 'bout someone protesting peacefully?
They are protesting police brutality not the national anthem.

Donald Trump 'so proud' of Nascar plan to sack anyone that protests against national anthem.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/u...-a7965846.html

Breaking News: Sport with one of the largest conservative white fanbases is praised by Trump while he attacks the players/leagues of sports with some of the largest black fanbases.
Can't wait for the day Mueller tosses this ignorant puke in a cell with a dude named Cedric who makes him a little bitch! Originally Posted by Observing

Its NASCAR. I'm not surprised Richard Petty and Richard Childress made those comments. I didn't follow the Republican primary that close. Trump disrespected John McCain (POW). Didn't he make a dumb ass comment, "I like people who are not captured." Donald Trump is a hypocrite trying to act patriotic.

His fan base are fake ass patriots also if they think its okay to violate someones First Amendment right to protest peaceful.

I have a hard time feeling sorry for these abused mistreated NFL players.....life is a bitch!


Average NFL Player Salary
Since NFL teams require a 53-man minimum roster, hundreds of millions of dollars are allocated towards a player budget. While some of the highest-paid members (again, typically quarterbacks) receive multi-year contracts for millions of dollars per year, the average salary of an NFL player is only $1.9 million per year. This includes outliers such as rookies and quarterbacks who are guaranteed to make more money than other positions on the team.
As with the rookie cause, money from bonuses, incentives, and other means of income do not count towards the money that a player earns directly from their contract wages; the contract only lists the possibilities of earning extra money, but the money is not declared by the contract itself and does not come sourced from signing the contract.
Quarterbacks have an average value of around $4 million per year, due to their critical role on the offensive game. Even second and third string quarterbacks make a large amount of money compared to other roles. Defensive ends earn around $2.6 million per year, which is quite a humorous contrast – defensive ends are typically the position that are responsible for rushing the quarterback and putting pressure on them to move the ball. Defensive tackles earn around $1.8 million on average; wide receivers, linebackers, defensive linemen, and safeties all earn around the same amount of money, with the average for these 5 roles ranging from $1.75 million up to a little over $1.8 million. Cornerbacks and kickers/punters earn around $1.6 to $1.65 million on average. Running backs have an average salary of $1.5 million, and tight ends earn even less at $1.4 million per year.

A president shouldn't tell an NFL team what to do, Trump tweeted ... in 2013.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/25/politi...rnd/index.html