? Sable wants to know what everyone definition is of gfe?

GFE means I have to take you shopping once a month, give you footrubs, and I have to introduce you to my mom.

GFE means I have to take you shopping once a month, give you footrubs, and I have to introduce you to my mom. Originally Posted by ThinWhiteDuke

not the RLGFE!

GFE is defined differently by many different people, so many times providers who advertise they do GFE, may feel that HER definition is met in a session, however, it is the definition of the hobbyist that sees her that should apply, simply because he is the one paying and the provider is providing for that pay. Which stands to reason that hobbyists have to do thorough "research" on a provider before he sets an appointment with her.

Now, keeping with the subject of this thread, MY definition of GFE is reiterating what many have said in previous posts, and in my words, it is the same thing that a BF/GF relationship is, save the drama, (which is the shopping, the arguing, the "whoa is me" attitude about bills, ect). There should be no YMMV, nor making a man feel as if he is just a wallet, each session should be reliably consistent, not "robotic", and last, but certainly not least, the IOP (illusion of passion) is there from the first minute to the last.

As a relatively new hobbiest I would like to say that along with certain menu items ( lfk, dfk, hugging and holding, bbbj and daty), the right attitude is also very important. The illusion of passion is probably the hardest to pull off yet when acheived can have a great benefit, repeat clients. Also, clock watching is a big turn off.

I must say that I agree with the lfk, dfk(a must) bbbj, daty, and an attitude that says wow, we really made each other feel great, I truly hope you will come back to see me soon. Plus, some great conversation, a few laughs dont ever hurt either. We all walk a fine line and cant get to know each other as well as we would like sometimes, but that to me is GFE. Alot of providers do not allow all of these things and I have seen a few that break it up a little different that still knock your socks off. The kissing to me really gets the passion started and is always an icebreaker.

Most people define gfe as dfk, bbbj, daty and cfs, delivered with iop (illusion of passion).

I do not advertise as GFE because generally the guys automatically expect bbj dfk and daty. I do expand my menu as the comfort level increases with. each visit. But you never want to mislead anyone .... Personally I think passion and sensuality w/ out those 3 can be established but it would not be considered gfe...

Activities aren't really the differentiator between GFE & PSE - more attitude than action - all of the above mentioned (DFK, BBBJ, CIM) are requirements no matter who I see.

GFE feels like the real deal - enthusiasm, adventurous, caring. If you really want to learn, send email requests to: (Reverse Alphabetically for a change)

Shea Veile
Reese Foster
Lyndsey Laye
Lexy Laye

GFE = Girl Friend Experience

I never had a Girlfriend who wouldn't kiss (DFK) me passionately. However, there are a couple of xGF's that wouldn't let me round 3rd base.

The illusion of passion (IOP) is therefore critical for a GFE. The illusion that you are enjoying being with your client and that the donation doesn't have anything to do with it. The GFE provider "provides" the illusion that convinces her client she really has the hots for him. (Even though we both really know it's a business transaction.)

For most guys it's near impossible to feel the IOP without quality kissing (DFK & LFK).

Hence, good acting skills help. Originally Posted by Dick Willy

I would have to agree with your definition....

I'm sure everyone is waiting for GFE to show up on Sable's ad. Go Sable!

I am going to have to respectfully, but strongly, object to MasudRana's reply, and to the idea that a GFE service is defined by a set of other acronyms. The very best GFE provider that I have seen in the last couple of years is adverse to DATY. Nearly all of my favorite GFE providers over the past dozen or so years were CBJ providers. Some providers who I did not consider GFE providers were eager to swim through an alphabet soup of acronyms.

I like the P411 approach of listing "GFE" along with other acronyms. To me, GFE is a quality-of-service (QoS) specifier applied to the other acronyms. It mainly means that the lady is relaxed, receptive, and responsive as long as her comfort zone defined by the other acronyms is not violated. It also means that the sevice includes softer activities not covered by acronyms - conversation, hugging, cuddling, light kissing, etc.

Unfortunately, many providers, particularly backpage girls, use GFE as a synonym for "L3" service. That usage is NOT correct!

The relationship between "IOP" and "GFE" and the difference between "GFE" and "PSE" are also interesting topics, but they are probably best addressed in separate threads.

I am usually with a much younger provider. In that case, too much IOP seems very unnatural and forced to me - it spoils the simulated GFE for me. I cannot imagine an attractive young lady being too excited about f*ck*ng a bald guy old enough to be her father. The providers I prefer, such as my retired ATF and Darby Depoy, make me feel accepted and appreciated. Being appreciated as a client is good enough. However, on this issue, I suspect that most old bald guys disagree with me.

Most people define gfe as dfk, bbbj, daty and cfs, delivered with iop (illusion of passion). Originally Posted by TinMan

Bingo! That's the way is has been and always will be. Forget what you learned on the street, the studio, or the pimp.

Clients of Internet "Escorts" who use the adult message boards like this one universally agree with what Tinman wrote. Nothing left to argue, really.

+1 - succinctly said, Tinman and appropriately quoted, J.G.

Bingo! That's the way is has been and always will be. Forget what you learned on the street, the studio, or the pimp.

Clients of Internet "Escorts" who use the adult message boards like this one universally agree with what Tinman wrote. Nothing left to argue, really. Originally Posted by J.G. Wentworth

Wrong on "universal" and "Nothing left to argue".

From the P411 Website:
"GFE Girl Friend Experience, a subjective term usually used for a very passionate, sensual, non-mechanical experience. Most consider deep French kissing and BBBJ a baseline requirement for GFE."

Again, on the P411 website, this is not really an issue as long as a lady is accurate about the "activities [she] enjoys in private". Of course, disappointments may occur when the activities list is completed by a pimp or an agency.

Also, note the use of the word "most" in the P411 definition.

I think if we are trying to give the OP direction, she needs some specific acronyms to reference. Some guys will try to throw in CIM, Greek or even bbfs as part of their definition of gfe. On the flip side, girls will try to claim gfe without kissing or with cbj (or mechanical delivery).

Certain expectations come with the term gfe, and those who stray from the common definition risk misunderstanding.