... My personal belief is that we should divert some unspent stimulas money or make a cut in the pork somewhere ... Originally Posted by dirty dogOK as long as it's not MY pork.
Aye ... there's the rub ... LOL
This administration has had a year and a half and yet all they do is whine and complain about the "mess" they inherited. You've had a year and a half! Originally Posted by undrtkrCorrection: messES, plural.
Wow longer, you really are a tool for the liberal mindset. How pathetic. Sure he "inherited" some messes. So does every President. Stop whining, get over it, grow some stones and do something about it. But instead of doing something about the current issue, which is jobs, he creates even more of a mess like Healthcare reform which is his baby and his alone. So when that tanks, and it will, I will blame him for that mess from here to eternity. A majority of American's couldn't give a flip about Healthcare reform at the moment. Sure, when they have a job they might care but not now.Your wasting your time taker, best thing is to just ignore him, most of the stuff he types he does not even believe in, he does it to stir up the other side. Anyone with a brain knows that Korea and Iran have been a problem a lot longer than the last 8 years. Our problems in Iran started with the overthrow of the shaw and the taking of hostages, which I am sure you know was on Carters watch. Korea has been a problem for ever, Clinton has several situations. Health care has been a problem for a lot longer than 8 year, Clinton tried to overhaul healthcare in his first year, remember Hillary was in charge. Monger likes to bend the facts to fit his opinion instead of having an opinion of the facts. If you dont believe me, read his reviews.
But wait you say, he and congress did do something about jobs. He passed a massive, pork laden stimulus package. And how is that working for ya? They're now talking about another pork laden stimulus bill because the last one hasn't put a dent in the unemployment rate. Obama is a worthless piece of shit who couldn't lead rats to cheese.
By the way, the real unemployment rate is around 17-20%. The guv'ment fudges the numbers to make them look good.
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http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...ment-rate.aspx Originally Posted by undrtkr
Not to belabor the point, but would someone point out to me the mistakes in the Clinton administration that W. whined about during his administration, or, more to the point, the specific issue that W. placed the blame on the Clinton administration specifically? Mind you, he only had 8 months and 21 days to complain about the previous administration.Well Bush entered the WH almost night and day difference from Obama. Clinton left Bush with a budget surplus and Bush turned the Budget surplus into a huge budget defecit. Now without picking side one would have to be very naive to say that Obama didn't have a lot of shit left over to fix and a lot of that you can't fix in 1 & 1/2 years I am sorry but that's the truth. It would have been very wrong to blame Reagan for inflation and the Middle East crisis after Carter fucked it up. However, I don't care who would have been office even if it were a Republican they either would still be fixing Bush mess or adding to it- and guys whether you hate Obama or if you are a die hard conservative the fact of the matter is we are still feeling the pains from the Bush administration and it is what it is fellas.Lounger is right in some aspects but he's wrong in others- Iran has been causing problems since their revolution in 1979- Korea has caused problems for several administrations. Somalia was a thorn in the C,linton administration-lounger remember Black Hawk Down????
Now, I am specifically asking for quotes where W. blamed the previous administration - not his surrogates, not his Cabinet, not his Vice President - but W. specifically, along with the link to the quote and its source - and the source has to be from the MSM, not from a liberal blog site. It is my premise that W. did not ever blame the Clinton administration for any troubles from Jan. 20, 2001 through Jan 20, 2009 - if I am wrong on this, please provide the exact quote in which W. did this.
Oh, and undrtkr....nicely done. Originally Posted by fritz3552
Well Bush entered the WH almost night and day difference from Obama. Clinton left Bush with a budget surplus and Bush turned the Budget surplus into a huge budget defecit. Now without picking side one would have to be very naive to say that Obama didn't have a lot of shit left over to fix and a lot of that you can't fix in 1 & 1/2 years I am sorry but that's the truth. It would have been very wrong to blame Reagan for inflation and the Middle East crisis after Carter fucked it up. However, I don't care who would have been office even if it were a Republican they either would still be fixing Bush mess or adding to it- and guys whether you hate Obama or if you are a die hard conservative the fact of the matter is we are still feeling the pains from the Bush administration and it is what it is fellas.Lounger is right in some aspects but he's wrong in others- Iran has been causing problems since their revolution in 1979- Korea has caused problems for several administrations. Somalia was a thorn in the C,linton administration-lounger remember Black Hawk Down???? Originally Posted by wellendowed1911While you referenced my post, you never did respond with a quote made by W. that criticized Clinton. Why is it when Democrats have no response to directly answer a question, they obvuscate and try and rationalize their point of view? If you cannot respond with an answer to a post, please do not quote that post in your response.