Safety First!

As long as a Provider treats me well and with dignity, I am happy. I'm not really picky on what they do and won't do, as long as I go home happy with a big smile on my face.

Thanks for sharing this topic, very interesting. Thanks.

women are allowed to do what ever they want and no is still no...even on in this hobby that is the way it has to be!

Howevr when I get to a providers location and THEN she tells me what she will and wont do......AFTER the fee has already been laid down...then Ihave a big problem and I will review as such.

I agree GFESafe should start being used by all providers........becuase for me...DATY and BBBJ are a deal breaker.......I have was with women in the late 80s that only proivded CBJ and dental dams for DATY.....you never found a escort who did not till the mid 90s....and that was why I stopped seeing provders....beucase I wanted/ needed the GFE....the real GFE

just post in your ad that your a non GFE provider then and see how it goes

that could go a LONG WAY in convincing me your actually intrested in providing full disclosure in your ads



at least the guys that know they are intrested in that wont waste ANY of your time, or theirs and would clear up the confusion http://rochester.backpage.com/Female...e-_-24/9067108

maybe using words like "warm and passionate" leads a guy to thinck there may be more "passion" than is offered, usually words like that can infer "GFE"

plus, its NOT SMART AT ALL to be discussing activities and any seasoned person on both sides of the coin knows theres always some creative ways to READ BETWEEN THE LINES..

posting certain words can trigger thoughts and can be used on your end to your advantage over the guys

also "going out of your way to AMAZE and ASTOUND" ?

a CBJ can be OK and totally acceptable but lets be serious , any truthfull guy would not describe CBJ and no kissing as being "astounded",,ijs

JONBALLS what you need to realize is not every hobbyist has he same expectations as you, if people do their research and find my reviews they will see exactly what I do and dont do. Many guys are amazed and astounded by my amazing body, great bubbly upbeat personality, and tight little kitty to name a few. I understand you have you're opinion but you can't generalize that all guys on here are the same. Shit, check out my reviews on here, everyone I have seen in the last week recommends me regardless of the fact that I'm non GFE. I shouldn't have to spell out my dos and dont's on a BP ad, in fact a lot of times terms like GFE are removed. For example, if you look at the link you attached they removed the word "tight" and all I was doing was describing my body.

just post in your ad that your a non GFE provider then and see how it goes that could go a LONG WAY in convincing me your actually intrested in providing full disclosure in your ads

at least the guys that know they are intrested in that wont waste ANY of your time, or theirs and would clear up the confusion http://rochester.backpage.com/Female...e-_-24/9067108

maybe using words like "warm and passionate" leads a guy to thinck there may be more "passion" than is offered, usually words like that can infer "GFE" plus, its NOT SMART AT ALL to be discussing activities and any seasoned person on both sides of the coin knows theres always some creative ways to READ BETWEEN THE LINES..

posting certain words can trigger thoughts and can be used on your end to your advantage over the guys also "going out of your way to AMAZE and ASTOUND" ?

a CBJ can be OK and totally acceptable but lets be serious , any truthfull guy would not describe CBJ and no kissing as being "astounded",,ijs Originally Posted by JONBALLS

That all sounds good on first read, but you deflate your argument yourself. "Reading between the lines", "Leads a guy to think", etc. are exactly the problem with "GFE". To some GFE is an ATTITUDE. To others it is ACTIVITIES. And even in the second case, the list of activities is ill defined.

Sorry, GFE is a marketing term just like "New & Improved", and "Giant Sized". Any guy who reads that and gets a preconceived idea what exactly it means is fooling himself. Miscommunication is as much the receiver as the transmitter.

I bet most guys put "Energetic worker, motivated, team player, ...." in their resumes--when other folks might well disagree with their use of those terms. No different. What "astounds" one guy will leave another uninspired. Read the reviews, do your homework. If what a lady is offering fits you, great. If it doesn't, move on.

Amber: You are so right in this. As the provider, you controle how you provide—anything less in not consensual. I had a session with a provider who prohibited contact with her breasts —seemed odd to me, but—OK . . .a little turn-off and unexpected from an advertised GFE provider.

Turned out later that she was ~4 months pregnant at the time or our session and her breasts were sensative .

I do happen to like DATY and sometimes Greek.

the big ? is the ymmv type of activity. why go from one provider to the next with the big what if or i dunno if she will..... sure we all have different personalities.. and since many do play the discreet card, it is hard to see if one will play the way they are perceived. heck i was standing in the room with one the other day and she still had a problem letting me know what was on the menu. Red flag.... i can understand on the phone, maybe email, but damn....im in ur notel with my flowers.

JONBALLS what you need to realize is not every hobbyist has he same expectations as you, if people do their research and find my reviews they will see exactly what I do and dont do. Many guys are amazed and astounded by my amazing body, great bubbly upbeat personality, and tight little kitty to name a few. I understand you have you're opinion but you can't generalize that all guys on here are the same. Shit, check out my reviews on here, everyone I have seen in the last week recommends me regardless of the fact that I'm non GFE. I shouldn't have to spell out my dos and dont's on a BP ad, in fact a lot of times terms like GFE are removed. For example, if you look at the link you attached they removed the word "tight" and all I was doing was describing my body. Originally Posted by Amber Bliss

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...70#post3108070 your absolutly right, I will read your review

why dont you start threADS in the towns your actually in so that the guys experiencing you can weigh in?
you seem very defensive over just one opinion of mine ,,lol

because this started as a thread about all providers... before I really even had reviews on this site.. so I made it a national post, didnt realize it should be location specific. Also, being a national provider who travels, its nice for everyone to know my viewpoint on this

I guess a great way to have guys not have to decide is to just blow them off? LOL

ehh, youll be off to the next town soon anyways,, hehe

P411 is really on top of things because they have added several activities recently-- Female Condom Friendly and Stripper Slide come to mind. Originally Posted by Cpalmson

They added stripper slide? I wonder how long it will take before p411 adds BBFS as an added menu option for ladies to check too. Too me stripper sliide and BBFS are in the same family. But it seems like Texas ladies offers this mostly. It woulld be a red flag for me if I saw that on a ladys profile as checked.

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...70#post3108070 your absolutly right, I will read your review

why dont you start threADS in the towns your actually in so that the guys experiencing you can weigh in?
you seem very defensive over just one opinion of mine ,,lol Originally Posted by JONBALLS

I don't know you, don't know Amber, but you sure seem to be making this kind of a personal campaign. Is there more history between you two?

we've never met...

I don't know you, don't know Amber, but you sure seem to be making this kind of a personal campaign. Is there more history between you two? Originally Posted by Old-T

JB's remaining ball is obviously doing his thincking for him.