Providers not responding to reference requests

My suggestion to the providers is to ask Gina on P-411 to add another check button to the list of sextivities with Reference Friendly or Not Reference Friendly added to it and also add it to their ECCIE showcase profile....ijs

I wonder if some of these providers do not answer purposefully so the gent can then see them instead. Originally Posted by jaydalee

Well in those non reference friendly providers defense lol, its sure hella convient to call my reference back to book after you new ladies have rejected our p411 with provider ok's listed. If the provider decides not to see me after that or request more info other than references to screen I won't persue the meet and Ill probably just call one of my refs she couldn't reach. Id be willing to bet in that case my call would go right through...........lol. She will respond, "oh that chick, yeah she tried to reach me but I wanted to talk business with you first........"


And if she offers me a lower rate for the time booked.......sweet. Ill book with you to be "nice" but sometime well in advance of our appointment Ill cancel and look forward to that "deal" from one of my references. Screen for the green. Lol

Well in those non reference friendly providers defense lol, its sure hella convient to call my reference back to book after you new ladies have rejected our p411 with provider ok's listed. If the provider decides not to see me after that or request more info other than references to screen I won't persue the meet and Ill probably just call one of my refs she couldn't reach. Id be willing to bet in that case my call would go right through...........lol. She will respond, "oh that chick, yeah she tried to reach me but I wanted to talk business with you first........"


And if she offers me a lower rate for the time booked.......sweet. Ill book with you to be "nice" but sometime well in advance of our appointment Ill cancel and look forward to that "deal" from one of my references. Screen for the green. Lol Originally Posted by gimme_that

I'm thinking you just posted a self-alert, gimmie_that. Great info for providers to know about you.

Well Said Hun.

I agree, it is quite a nuisance for a gentlemen to give me his references and have them go unanswered. I even had a girl tell me one day (after calling and texting a few times trying to get the ref) Oh, I don't give references and I had one "I don't remember" even though he says he saw her less than two months ago. There's a difference between "i dont remember if we ever met" and "he's using me as a fake reference, I've never met this guy". I think that we should all place more importance on each other's safety. We're not just escorts, we're someone's daughter, mother, sister or friend. Business might be tough, but that's no excuse to lose all compassion. Originally Posted by sensualsanaa

This is very uncool and I have stopped asking for references because of it because I was getting wayy a lot of last minute cancellations because this is what was happening. Once I stopped using provider references for screening, virtually no cancellations anymore! Nobody else needs to know mine and my gent's business anymore.

Now I do still gladly give provider references, and I answer those right away. I will admit my memory is bad and I do have to have a refresher to remember especially if I only saw him one time; but I still gladly give provider references.

But,she did contact the gent and offer a very big discount to see her instead of me.When I saw the gent he told me what the second provider did IMO not cool! Originally Posted by jaydalee

Any of you ladies are welcome to use the banner I made:


You can right click and copy it. The numbers in the file name are the pixel dimensions of the image.
Stay safe.

Fallon, I think I'm gonna do the same thing... quit asking for them and just screen the gents myself. Thanks, doll... purdy banner too

That's right Annie, it takes us right out of the game playing tactics as so handily and readily admitted to above.

Fallon, I think I'm gonna do the same thing... quit asking for them and just screen the gents myself. Thanks, doll... purdy banner too Originally Posted by Lil Oral Annie

LOA sorry this is happening to you.. I have always been refs friendly. If I don't know of the lady I look her up. I been traveling and have learned a lot of different methods. Because I am going to other ladies land to play safely with the gentleman.

In this world everyone has to do what works for their feeling of safety first... We should all feel we are walking into any situation, safely in life period.

No one guy or gal should do anything they uncomfortable with.. If a guy cancels because I take my safety serious. Well have a good time.... be safe

If a guy don't want to be screened, well have a good time... be safe

Even the ladies that are not reference friendly screen in some way...

I'm thinking you just posted a self-alert, gimmie_that. Great info for providers to know about you. Originally Posted by Lil Oral Annie

No need to post an alert as my post was all hypothetical. Notice the "LOL'S" in my post. I posted a situation you ladies might be experiencing. Its not cool and doesn't happen as often as you think and especially not by me. If I want to see a lady badly I will do what I need to see her. If she doesn't feel safe with the references I used especially if they were local, I'm definitely gonna call one of them back if they are good.

But if you now change your whole screening requirements just based on my post I must have struck a nerve. Don't hate the hobbiest in those situations, hate the game. That's just a scenario, nothing more.

I will tell you more often than not though, when most provider I saw saw my p411 ith the ok's listed, the next step of calling the references was only added incentive and about only half actually followed through to call.

The best part of p411 it gets better the more ladies you meet. Pre-screening is always a good option if a lady is on the radar send her pm for next time you got the urge... I have several on the prescreened list.. it works guys...

Could it be no one wants admit having seen someone?

I agree with you.. we should work as a team as we all are in the same boat..

I hear issues surrounding references alot. I really think many guys should just get P411, datecheck, roomservice..etc and there won't be anymore problems. Although many ladies will give references. I think the guys should know if the women he has seen will willingly do so. Many do not, don't have time to do it, regular jobs, kids...etc. and this causes many other ladies to miss seeing someone as a result of a delay.

Guys don't help by using different names to see various young ladies, or it's been a long time since they saw the person they are using for a reference. People forget....numbers change....etc.
Or they haven't seen the person they are using as a reference at all. In my opinion, it is best to not use references and rely on other means of screening.

Also, in some cases some women are rude when calling for references, as if it is the providers job to help you with your business and that isn't proper at all. Providing references to a fellow provider is a courtesy and should always be viewed as such. In the end, it is up to the person seeking, receving, running the business.........to handle their business...........Just makes good business sense.............I'm just saying!

I've been thinking more about this and I have to revisit. This makes me very angry as double booking is a very very serious hobby crime for either hobbyist or provider. This is an income and livelihood for many of us and this kind of game playing takes food out of our children's mouths. When double booking occurs, this causes the ladies to turn down serious requests for the same day and time. So hopefully your backpedalling clarification is for real and not just an attempt to stop yourself from being included on every ladie's DNS list in your area.


Sorry but yes I do have to hate the hobbyist and/or the provider who would do this because if your taking income out of my household that shit will stop! Imagine how you would feel if somehow somebody was causing you to loose money at your job by some underhanded tactics like this. You wouldn't be saying oh don't hate me, hate the game my ass!

If a provider is doing this as well, any hobbyist with any scruples would stop seeing her because now you know she will play games on you too. It happens, don't try to downplay it because I'm not the only lady who is going this route and we made this decision long before this thread was here. So yes you have struck a serious deep nerve, the wallet nerve and if anybody was striking on yours like this, I think you would feel as strongly as I do about it.

No need to post an alert as my post was all hypothetical. Notice the "LOL'S" in my post. I posted a situation you ladies might be experiencing. Its not cool and doesn't happen as often as you think and especially not by me. If I want to see a lady badly I will do what I need to see her. If she doesn't feel safe with the references I used especially if they were local, I'm definitely gonna call one of them back if they are good.

But if you now change your whole screening requirements just based on my post I must have struck a nerve. Don't hate the hobbiest in those situations, hate the game. That's just a scenario, nothing more.

I will tell you more often than not though, when most provider I saw saw my p411 ith the ok's listed, the next step of calling the references was only added incentive and about only half actually followed through to call. Originally Posted by gimme_that

as a client, even though only I have been active for a year and on ECCIE for a few months, i prefer for the candidate provider not to require or check references, as for me it is a bit of privacy issue

(reversibility of ethics, i only do reviews for excellent providers, and can't stand it when the mods ask for more details, as I prefer to describe the providers attitude, i feel the details should be between me and the provider, and now I am trying to hit that happy medium so a mod doesn't put a negative comment in my thread, even if it is "check your PM". I feel the negative comment by the mod is shared with the provider)

check the alerts, if there aren't any against me, wouldn't I be legit? Would an active provider tolerate a person putting up review that they never met?

if I reach out to a provider, and they say I don't have enough reviews yet, or are that I am still too new, that is fine, I will respect that they careful and concerned for personal safety and I will not press. They probably have enough customers and can be more picky, and I am at the point where i have more than enough providers to give my disposable income to.