This is why I try to stick to one good agency. I get screened once and I'm good to go with a plethora of gorgeous women.Agreed; same reasoning suggests Preferred 411; bigger plethora, even. ;-)
ABT Originally Posted by AustinBusinessTraveler
Agreed; same reasoning suggests Preferred 411; bigger plethora, even. ;-) Originally Posted by 78704
PM's with "Hey.. can I see you?". Originally Posted by karmaofaustin
"Are you available?" Originally Posted by Devynn von TeaseI didn't realize this was such an issue. I am guilty of starting the process in the above manner. I usually like to schedule 3-4 days in advance, and I often initially PM asking about availability for the date and time I would like to play. If the response is a yes, then I send all my screening/reference/P411 information. I always figured it was a waste of time to send all the information if the lady is not available. If I send all my information with the first contact info and she is not available, I then have provided all my info to someone I may never see. I don't know why, but I don't like that.
I didn't realize this was such an issue. I am guilty of starting the process in the above manner. I usually like to schedule 3-4 days in advance, and I often initially PM asking about availability for the date and time I would like to play. If the response is a yes, then I send all my screening/reference/P411 information. I always figured it was a waste of time to send all the information if the lady is not available. If I send all my information with the first contact info and she is not available, I then have provided all my info to someone I may never see. I don't know why, but I don't like that. Originally Posted by swwaustinI see your point. But lets say the lady in question is only able to check her email twice that day. She gets the first email, and she can begin screening immediately, because she may be contacting another lady who only checks her email a few times a day... and it can end up taking much longer to hear back than you might think. If you keep all your reference info in a handy text file, maybe save it to your hobby email or to your eccie.net notebook (very handy), all you need to do is copy and paste.
Good for you and those that ascribe to your methods. They won't be seeing me or my compatriots. Now BACK ON TOPIC!!
I started this thread because I honestly felt like maybe there were a lot of newbies who didn't know proper procedure when asking for a "date" with those of us who DO SCREEN. It was simply meant to be used a tool....NOT TO BRING OUT THE TOOLS.
We don't screen to get "your info". What do we ask you for??? We ask you for PROVIDER REFERENCES and THEIR CONTACT INFO. Where in there did you get that I need your mother's maiden name, your SS#, and your DL/Passport? Nowhere. And if you already subscribe to P411, you have already given Gina your personal info, so what's the issue?
Not every thread has to become a debate. Really. And A BIG ASS THANK YOU to those that get it.. ~K Originally Posted by karmaofaustin
SWW, that is slightly different, and you can always add, "if you are available then, let me know, and I will send you screening info" or "if this time will work for you, I have references", something similar... Originally Posted by lacensatinGood idea, I am not sure why I never added that, but I will from now on, Thanks.
Not necessarily.... An Agency has a reason to value your business and cater to your needs, make up for things that go bad, extend you a special here and there... You get none of that with a screening service... Just additional risk at having to disclose your personal information. Originally Posted by WhispersWell, I don't get any of that FROM a screening service, true. I might get it WITH a screening service FROM an independent provider, of course; it's not like p411 makes such things *less* likely. Providers, too, have reason to value, cater, make up, extend... Marley argues that her flaky betrayal, taking hundreds of dollars in advance and then not fulfilling our deal or refunding any money, has cost her significant business because I posted about it on ASPD.
Ladies, I totally understand and agree screening is for your personal safety. A wise woman always has some safety measures in place. There are some really bad people out there and they will always look for easy prey. So this is in no way an indictment against proper screening.I'm new here so no claws but even as a provider I agree with him. The ref's that I have checked for clients that are not into the hobby have been discreet or out of state which made it a little harder but I ALWAYS offer an alternative screening method for those... I think KarmaofAustin has a point though if you are a regular you know what you need to do. This is the first time that I have been a member of a board and I hope that will help with screening because my clients are UTR.
Gentlemen have a problem as well. In the past, I have always had the tendency to stay with, and develop a relationship with two providers. One generally providing FBSM I will see most often and one FS I will see maybe 4-6 times a year. I do this for a reason. Safety and discretion.
It just so happened that the FBSM lady I have been seeing for a few years retired and moved out of state. She had a no review policy and ran only a occasional ad on BP. She also had a consulting business so providing was not her only source of income. The FS provider is totally UTR and does not allow calls from men or women she doesn't know. She to is leaving the hobby, in fact her phone is already disconnected. Because of this I have no reference at this point. Even if I did, they would more than likely not be accepted because both ladies were UTR.
Ladies, I know there is a close knit group here who have no problems giving reps. But there are also those who will not give reps to ladies they don't like, or don't know. There are those who will not takes reps from those they don't like, or don't know.
I am not sure there is a complete solution to this issue. Maybe P411 is a solution, I don't know. I am still not ready to take that plunge. I have to REALLY.....REALLY.....REALLY trust someone before I will hand over my personal information. I also understand you have to feel safe too.
Sad thing is, there are no absolutes either. How many times have we read about a well screened guy ripping a lady off, or expecting something beyond her stated services. How many times have we read about a well established provider ripping a guy off. No, it doesn't happen everyday. But it happens. There is always some risk.
Again, this is just my perspective based on my experience in this hobby. For me it is simple. I call you and if I can't pass your screening, for whatever the reason, we part as friends and move on down the hobby trail. I will not bad mouth you and you will accept the fact that there was some personal info that I just couldn't reveal to you. Life goes on. Originally Posted by Risn2TheOccasion
There are alternatives to screening.Care to share??
Nobody is more concerned with your rights to privacy than yourself guys.
. Originally Posted by Whispers