Just curious ...

Thanks ladies! Both your responses were appreciated. LD you are right, 80% generous regulars are from bp , 19% from 411 an 1% eccie. Sorry coolaid some do use this site for info exchange.

Then again it's price beats the 50 a day BP... Originally Posted by SensualSpecialist

BP is $50/day!!?? I would never have guessed that.

The disclaimer says "we Do not Support Prostitution OR PIMP'S ON OUR SITE". This is on the 'I Agree' page after clicking the escorts link. A site that does not support prostitution that has a place for prostitutes to post ads. That's like a gun store Website that doesn't support the 2nd Amendment.

No ads in Escorts posted between 8/9 and 9/2 and no ads in Body Rubs since 7/5.

Something is fishy here...

Guys, you can't argue with the Providers on thos one. Well you can, but they have data to back up their arguements. All us Hobbyist have are opinions on the subject. Ladies, in my book you win by default.

Personally, I look at both. BP to see what's out there and ECCIE for confirming data. I am a bit risk averse when seeking out a new Provider experience. I feel much more comfortable with a Provider that advertises on BP if she has a showcase and reviews on ECCIE. But hey, that's just me...

And Fancy, I have never come across your ads on BP. That is a shame, cause I really like reading your musings. You are always a voice of reason in a sea of chaos. Do you write in green there also?

BP is $50/day!!?? I would never have guessed that. Originally Posted by ackvt

Depending on how much you post. Each escort and body rub ad is $12/piece. Before Craigslist closed it was $7 for escort ads and $5 for body rub. Fetish section ads are now $7 and they used to be $3. In Dallas it is even more; last time I was there it was $15/post. I find that when I place an ad in the escort/body rub section and I want to work all day, I have to post at least twice.

When Craigslist closed their adult section, BP absorbed most of that extra business. As far as traffic is concerned, I don't think any other advertising venue can even compete with BP. Whoever said screening from BP was like pulling teeth, obviously didn't know what the hell she was doing.

BDD, I stopped trying to explain it to him because he doesn't understand the numbers from that side of the fence, and the numbers don't lie.

Thanks ladies! Both your responses were appreciated. LD you are right, 80% generous regulars are from bp , 19% from 411 an 1% eccie. Sorry coolaid some do use this site for info exchange. Originally Posted by SensualSpecialist

I think the ratio varies depending on the girl. While you get 1% of business from eccie, Fancy gets 50%, for example. I think that many of the better providers stick with eccie and P411 because they can get more than enough business from those sites and deal with guys who are used to getting screened. Backpage may make the phone ring more, but many ladies don't think the risk is worth it when they already have enough business. BP is the wild west.

For ladies who aren't getting much business from eccie and P411, they need to advertise in as many places as possible.

I also think that many of the P411 customers come from eccie. They go there to book the ladies that they see here.

Whoever said screening from BP was like pulling teeth, obviously didn't know what the hell she was doing.

BDD, I stopped trying to explain it to him because he doesn't understand the numbers from that side of the fence, and the numbers don't lie. Originally Posted by Luxury Daphne

I've sat there and hung out with providers and listened while they take their bp calls.

caller 1: no habla ingles

caller 2: can you do a $50 quicky? (that was me lol)

caller 3: heavy breathing and moaning then hangs up

caller 4: dude had no clue what a reference is or why he's being asked for one.

caller 5: She asked to check his employer and he said she was crazy and hung up on her.

caller 6: foreign guy who barely speaks english and smells like curry

caller 7: foreign guy who barely speaks english and smells like garlic and curry

caller 8: dolla bill pimp dawg on a recruiting mission

caller 9: ncns

caller 10: some guy drugged out of his mind

caller 11: decent clean guy who shows up on time and pays the full donation.

When a popular, high-end provider posts here saying that she easily stays booked up by advertising on eccie for free, but yet she still chooses to pay to advertise on bp and service the fine, distinguished bp hobbyists, then maybe I'll listen.

Bp is only useful when eccie business is slow.

And ss, I'm sorry but there are no other websites out there besides eccie, bp, and p411 that are going to magically make your phone start ringing off the hook all of a sudden. Maybe you should just step your game up. Build a showcase. And if you're not secure about showing your body in photos then that's probably your problem right there.

......BDD, I stopped trying to explain it to him because he doesn't understand the numbers from that side of the fence, and the numbers don't lie. Originally Posted by Luxury Daphne

Quntitative data from LD. Sometimes Hooker Math = Real Math Guys.

And as for the arguement that until a 1st tier HDH weighs in, that doesn't hold water. Elit Providers can be extremely selective. A lot of ladies in the business are just Awesome Providers, not Elite Providers. And some are Low End Providers, but it takes all kinds in this world.

Providers live it. Hobbyists have opinions about it.

And ss, I'm sorry but there are no other websites out there besides eccie, bp, and p411 that are going to magically make your phone start ringing off the hook all of a sudden. Maybe you should just step your game up. Build a showcase. And if you're not secure about showing your body in photos then that's probably your problem right there.[/QUOTE]


Again you are moving off topic sir. Question was will anyone utilize the new site? As a provider every month I advertise on several sites. So when new ones come along it draws interest. I like to invest 30 % earnings back into advertisement. One never puts all her eggs in one basket. As an investment I like to see which draws more buisness. If you sir are looking for a little board amusement you have definatly choose the wrong blond. I appreciate your advice, but my phone rings just fine. I wouldn't care if it rang 2 times a day or 200 doesn't mean I will answer. I am very selective. I like building repeat clientele not just any bang for the buck. So by you standing in this thread casting rocks like a 5th grader only tells me..I spark you interest..Don't be shy send me a pm and maybe ill see you…

Providers live it. Hobbyists have opinions about it.[/QUOTE]


BDD, You made an awesome statement babe! I owe you a drink

...And Fancy, I have never come across your ads on BP. That is a shame, cause I really like reading your musings. You are always a voice of reason in a sea of chaos. Do you write in green there also? Originally Posted by BDD

Awww, you're sweet, BDD. I thought that I was the voice of Jameson-inspired daftness.

I usually run just one sponsor ad a week on BP, and it appears on the sidebar with the little photos. I don't have need to do more unless I have some special event coming up I want to promote. (Such as my upcoming 3rd Annual Texas Renaissance Festival tours.) A sponsor ad maintained on BP costs $33 a week. Occasionally I'll add a regular line ad, too, 4 insertions, $12. If someone is spending $50 A DAY, they are blanketing the market, and that's overkill.

No, darn it, they don't let me type in green, but 'cause I've been advertising on BP since they were using the Gutenberg Press, they don't make me abide by the 500-character limit instituted a few years ago, so my ads there are as equally epic and humorous as they often are here.

I COMPLETELY disagree with the idea that advertising on BP in addition to here is because ladies can't hook the quality and quantity they need from ECCIE and therefore must be doing something "wrong" here. That is a deeply flawed premise. It is an additional resource, period, but granted, one you have to be more cautious with.

The BP market is different, and that isn't a bad thing.

I tend to get the fellows who have no idea what "The Hobby" is, who are often looking for companionship for the very first time. The men who call me from BP tend to fall into 2 types: The "You're Calling the Wrong Lady" group of young, insolent, rude, English as a second language, distrustful guys, yes, like the ones coolaid describes, and I hang up/delete those messages immediately; or "Fancy's Target Audience" of older gentlemen, well-established financially with professional careers, recently divorced or widowed, or in lengthy marriages that lack something that they feel they need. (And to be be crystal clear, seeing me doesn't mean that they love their wives any less.) They either looked up "escort" online and were directed to BP, or were told about the site, and my ads stand out because I write them the same way I do here, with an eye for a certain type of "consumer." To be honest, ECCIE fellows frequently come and go because they ARE aware of The Hobby and the variety and like to sample it all, as they should with a delicious buffet, while the BP gents tend to want one playmate and establish long-term, comfortable liaisons. I am obviously not an Elite/High-End Provider (too old, too chubby, too tart, and I'm practical about that, yet have somehow managed to stay "in demand" enough to clock my 6th anniversary surpporting a home and an apartment with my SOLE income coming from being Fancyinheels), but I'm different, honest, low-volume, dependable, not bad to look at or get along with, and evidently entertaining, and that seems to be good enough for many of the gents who discovered me on BP to ask me to accompany them to Paris, London, Hawaii, Vegas, the Caribbean, Costa Rica, NYC, NOLA, the Keys..... Only one fellow who found me on ECCIE first has ever taken me on a trip, bless his naughty heart. Doesn't that TELL you a wee bit of something? But really, wonderful gentlemen can be found anywhere depending on how a provider represents herself. It's all about marketing.

I am very grateful for the free ads that I'm allowed here on ECCIE and the constant exposure via posting, and I adore my ECCIE regulars and treat them like kings, giving them (and P411 members because I'm required to match) the best rates, but I would be insane to ONLY advertise on ECCIE. A lot of ECCIE guys seem have a picture in their mind that doesn't match up with many providers, a fantasy that may be difficult for only a few to fulfill, but thankfully, there's someone for everyone, a flavor to satisfy every taste.

To get back to the original question, as I said, no, I won't be advertising on "mynewbackpage." If they had been more original and not chipping off what another site had built, perhaps.

since you know better.. ok. Originally Posted by Luxury Daphne

+ 100

Ok.. went and looked.. very similar to BP.. but I find it silly that they state:

Are no way are we affiliated with the website backpage.com Also we Do not Support Prostitution OR PIMP'S ON OUR SITE If we receive complaints about PIMPS: Men or Women soliciting Our Adult session your number will be added to our black list category. In this category everybody will be able to save your number in their phones to keep from being solicited. The adult section of our site Is strictly for adult entertainment purposes only.

Yet this is part the TOS / AUP you agree to when entering the ESCORT section.

Now for the nit picking.. the ads in the Houston section say the girls are in Houston.... imagine that.. but what area of Houston is not listed and we know that some are in West Houston, some South, etc.... Houston is not what one would call a small town. Hell on a good no traffic day it takes 30 minutes to traverse from one side through downtown to the other side.


Site is registered through GoDaddy by someone named Gary Brown.. whoever he is
and the site is hosted via SecureServer.net.

^^^^^

See Fancy's last post. Like I said, a voice of reason in a sea of chaos. And she has data to support her positions and opinions.

Thanks Fancy.

noticed something else.. and it was mentioned.. none of the OTHER sections have listings except body rubs and oddly enough the ones that are posted and say they have a photo, the photo does not load.... I would be VERY leery of this site