why one guy "knows" why other guys pay providers for sex

The gay faggot lost me with all that Blue Font writing, that Tool Faggot should use Pink , it just seems more appropriate for his phony ass shit.

Yeh, I caught that right away too on the once a year 5k marathon stud as well, what a douche!!...Gotta love the "I'm too good looking and successful to have to pay for pussy" attitude, but here he fucking is on a StripperHookerMessageBoard... Lmao at JG DoucheWorth he's almost as big a joke as the Biggest Creeper on here since LickerLicense the overposter Suiram77!!

Anyone have a clue what SpermBreath 5K Marathon Man's former handle on here used to be?

I think all this is circunstancial. If the room happens to be a film set of a porn film I'm producing... well, need I say more?
However, if the room is a rape victim or battered women support group?

As far as payment goes. Yes we all pay one way or another for everything and anything, nothing in this world is "free" I don't feel the need to label or categorize anyone here by age, weight, social status, IQ or whatever bull shit we can think of. It's a simple matter of choice and circumstances, value, taste and the own individual persut of happyness ��

Wentworth's argument did refer to banging "beautiful" or "hot" chicks. I don't hobby for that, I go for fatties, midgets, exotics, value sluts, etc.. if beautiful or hot find their way in, that's a bonus.

and by the way, I run 5k twice a month, just running from the Police. Originally Posted by Chung Tran

That's funny Chung lmao!!

The gay faggot lost me with all that Blue Font writing, that Tool Faggot should use Pink , it just seems more appropriate for his phony ass shit.

Yeh, I caught that right away too on the once a year 5k marathon stud as well, what a douche!!...Gotta love the "I'm too good looking and successful to have to pay for pussy" attitude, but here he fucking is on a StripperHookerMessageBoard... Lmao at JG DoucheWorth he's almost as big a joke as the Biggest Creeper on here since LickerLicense the overposter Suiram77!!

Anyone have a clue what SpermBreath 5K Marathon Man's former handle on here used to be? Originally Posted by ManSlut

Sluttmutt SMDH I'm convinced now that you never going to take your mask off for me, and if you don't know what that mean then go ask someone dumb dumb, until you do I have no words for you. Your ass is just talkin shit on a hooker site, and if that's all you are willing to do then I will let you continue to do that. I keep my mask off 7 days a week, so when you grow a pair slutnuts, then let me know old man lol. My PM still works. Duces

We're in here paying for pussy guys, no one is above another person, either you're a trick or you're not.

Well, for starters, the hypothetical scenario that JG offered of walking into a roomful of ladies and thinking that anybody other than Brad Pitt or someone similar is not going to score is absurd. There is no such scenario of a roomful of ladies with guys walking the plank while the ladies make their choices of who they want to fuck. Rubbish...doesn't exist in the real world....it's as much fantasy as me and Suiram gangbanging Holley Halston.

Secondly, cash for pussy is suggested as the only method of payment. It is not. Any transaction, and yes, marriage is a transaction because it is a contract, means that payment is made in various ways...most know about that. This holds true in simple dating...continuous discussions about should the guy pay, the girl pay, or should they both pay for dinner? Again, the subject of money and payment come up. So, the real question is not ARE YOU GOING TO PAY? But rather HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PAY AND WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO PAY WITH, ...MONEY, TIME, EMOTION? Seems to me, suggesting that cash for pussy is the only method of payment is absurd and naive. Originally Posted by 2short@desky

Lmao, yeah 2short that shit sounds good, let's try to make that shit happen boss. You hitting Holly from the back while she sucking my dick then we switch. Haha

FUCK YEAH HELL YEAH!!!!

We're in here paying for pussy guys, no one is above another person, either you're a trick or you're not. Originally Posted by BLM69

So much this.. and it goes for both sides. Every customer is a customer.. whether they're spending $10 on SallySlutbag down on HH.. or $1000 on PriscillaPornstar down at the Anatole.

Likewise... Whorearchy is very real and very bullshit. Whether you are sucking dick in the back of a car or sucking dick at the Ritz... you're still sucking dick.

People take this shit entirely too seriously and tie way too much self worth into the finite details.

Grace, we will not stand for logic and reason in this thread.

So much this.. and it goes for both sides. Every customer is a customer.. whether they're spending $10 on SallySlutbag down on HH.. or $1000 on PriscillaPornstar down at the Anatole.

Likewise... Whorearchy is very real and very bullshit. Whether you are sucking dick in the back of a car or sucking dick at the Ritz... you're still sucking dick.

People take this shit entirely too seriously and tie way too much self worth into the finite details. Originally Posted by Grace Preston

Agreed. People try to confuse and complicate this so much.

I suspect that his conjecture that somehow P4P somehow allows for cheating by lesser biologic specimens in competition to satisfy the drive to mate. Yep, we're cheaters. We didn't deserve the right to mate because we didn't fight it out like the two lions did. He tries to equate the sex process as a biologic need on both sides, men and women, and factors in instant cash as unethical in it's disturbance to natural selection. Originally Posted by 2short@desky

That is 1000% wrong. Prostitution isn't cheating. It is totally natural. http://www.zmescience.com/research/h...nkey-appeared/

One of the researchers, during the chaos event, observed how one of the monkeys exchanged money to another for sex. After the act was over, the monkey which was paid immediately used it to buy a grape…

The male lions duke it out, and the woman gets the winner. With the woman having nothing to say about it? That is literally the same bullshit Gaston was peddling to Belle.

Not only is that not true among most mammals, it is not true among the previously believed to be monogamous prairie voles. Here is the link and relevant quote, https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/526d/c2781f6094002810f8eeb0b604e5ad 155486.pdf"Of the 26 litters assessed for paternity, 21 (80.8%) were
sired by the paired mate of the mother". Got that? One in five babies were linked to a male who was not the "husband".

So even if you win the fight between lions, chances are pretty good your female mate or mates is banging some beta or gamma male on the side without you alphas knowing it. And you would never suspect it right? Why would your "wife" be banging anyone else when you are the "best"? It would have to be the money right? Have you ever considered that some women may find some of the alpha males not attractive but insufferable egotistical assholes? Of course, you would actually have to ask the women that rather than just assuming you know how they think or should think.

When I was in the part of my career when I was investing, I would constantly meet these management types that were tall, good looking white men who were just airheads. I coined the phrase "tall good looking white guy who expects six figures a year for not working but literally just showing up to work". It got shortened to "tall good looking white guy" by others, and the phrase took off like fire in the business world. To a lot of contrarian investors like myself, we actually saw that CEOs who were unattractive did a much better job than attractive ones. In that vain, I never saw an unattractive black female as CEO or in upper management anywhere, but if I did, I would look very hard at investing in that company. If she got the job on merit, she'd have to be a 100x better manager than the tall good looking white guy.







In one of my previous jobs, I supervised over 600 ladies, and many of them I wanted to bone. The reality is though, that it is just as socially unsanctioned to accept advances or make advances without being exposed to a charge of fraternization as is P4P is socially unsanctioned. His concept of a roomful of ladies like he described just doesn't exist....it's similar to the concept many men, including myself, dream about being the last male survivor on an island loaded with hotties and tasked with the burden of continuance of the species.

So much this.. and it goes for both sides. Every customer is a customer.. whether they're spending $10 on SallySlutbag down on HH.. or $1000 on PriscillaPornstar down at the Anatole.

Likewise... Whorearchy is very real and very bullshit. Whether you are sucking dick in the back of a car or sucking dick at the Ritz... you're still sucking dick.

People take this shit entirely too seriously and tie way too much self worth into the finite details. Originally Posted by Grace Preston

That 2nd paragraph is funny Grace lol, funny story Grace is, I actually know a high end escort like that who lives in L A. She happens to be a good friend of mine, and she does have this I'm better than the other providers because she only suck and fuck rich guys attitude. She normally uses Ritz Carlton or 4 seasons for her incalls, and she is always prowling there for the men, mainly wealthy men.

If I'm your friend, then I'm a real friend to you. I will always keep it a 1000 with you and tell you the truth, even if you don't want to hear it. I told her one day last year after hearing her brag about how much more money she makes in less time and seeing fewer men, than these cheap hoes that's charging $300 for pussy and blowjobs. I told her wait boo, just because you are sucking dick for $1000 a pop doesn't make you better than a provider that charge $300. I said you are still sucking dick and selling your services just like them. That makes you really the pot calling the kettle black lol.

I learned along time ago that with some people you have to reverse things to get them to see it. I said ok let me ask you this, if a guy saw me leaving your room and he said I was a looser because I'm paying for sex, but as he walk pass me he knocks on your door, well what would that make him? She said a loser too, I said exactly. It wouldn't matter that I was paying less because we are friends and and he paid a $1000. We both still paid for sex, and that's what you are doing when you turn your nose up at other providers just because their rate is wayyy lower than yours.

We talked about it a lot more then she finally says she gets it. I will never understand why some escorts will view others differently than their self when it comes to what they charge. Like you said Grace, you both are still sucking Dick regardless of what the cost of admission is.

So much this.. and it goes for both sides. Every customer is a customer.. whether they're spending $10 on SallySlutbag down on HH.. or $1000 on PriscillaPornstar down at the Anatole.

Likewise... Whorearchy is very real and very bullshit. Whether you are sucking dick in the back of a car or sucking dick at the Ritz... you're still sucking dick.

People take this shit entirely too seriously and tie way too much self worth into the finite details. Originally Posted by Grace Preston

I'm glad someone gets it, now try to beat some common sense into the WK's and this place would run smooth

Same reason the people who hallucinate about themselves belonging to the 20% feel the need to demean others who they think belong in the other 80% - just to feel better about themselves.

I will never understand why some escorts will view others differently than their self when it comes to what they charge. Originally Posted by suiram77

rather than take Analeese's thread any further off track that it already has been, here's a new thread.


it doesnt really matter why a man pays a provider for time and compansionship.
or why a provider got into this "business" or how much she likes or dislikes what she does.

i think that one of the few things that matters is - when they met, did the man get what he wanted and did the woman get what she wanted?
regardless of how the two hooked up, maybe he did and maybe she did.

but for sure HE IS GONNA PAY FOR IT - possibly with cash, clothes, rent/utility bills, having to listen to her stories, having her text/call/msgs him for whatever reason, (rental) cars, having her out him to family/friends/business/etc, having her do physical damage to something he owns, mental/psychological anguish/stress, or in any of a gazillion other ways.
i just dont believe that getting sex has ever been free or that it will ever be.
i wont claim these ideas as facts -they're just my opinion after experiencing life on earth from some time.



---J.G. Wentworth posted...
To the OP to be quite honest I would say 80 percent of the men on ECCIE hobby because they have no choice. I am basically saying most of these guys whether it's their age or weight they wouldn't be able to score a beautiful lady unless they paid for it -THOSE ARE JUST THE FACTS.
----------following on to what i posted in the other thread, where is your evidence to support your claim of fact??

Yes, I do happen to be part of the 20 percent and I guess from your sarcastic remark you must be part of the 80 percent? I happen to be in great shape for my age and compete every year in a 5k marathon. Sorry if my comment hit a nerve but I AM SPEAKING THE TRUTH. Ask any provider to describe the average hobbyist. Trust me it isn't some young stud with a 6 pack and a huge cock it's guys who resemble you.
----------it might your idea/belief of truth, but that doesnt make it THE truth.

i actually was not trying to hijack the thread or be messy, but THERE'S A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF MEN WHO HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO PAY IN ORDER TO SCREW A HOT CHICK. THAT'S THE SIMPLE FACTS LOVE IT OR HATE IT.
----------well, you started to shift to an opinion, but then went back and called it "facts".

But let's be honest with ourselves A LOT OF US HOBBYIST GUYS have screwed ladies that we know wouldn't screw us for free.
----------finally, a general statement not put forward as THE truth or as a fact.

where did I say everyone ? Apparently you must be one of the 80 percent of the guys who has to pay to get laid. Let me just ask you a simple question. Can you walk into a room full of hot women and one of them will screw you for free based on your looks and personality???? I rest my case!!!
I noticed how it's all the old farts who are taking offense to my comment.
Pmdelites you have been around the hobby world for many, many years you are clearly no spring chicken and obviously part of the 80 percent.
----------since i dont think i've ever met you and that you dont know me, how can you say what kind of guy i am??You have been around since the ASPD days and I know you are well north of 50
besides,
1. i didnt enter this crazy sub-culture to get laid. period. if i do, it's icing on the cake for me. and i dont always eat the icing. Well good for you.
2. i dont want "hot women", i want to meet women who enjoy providing intimate sexual delites for me and to me. Again good for you, you are still paying pal. And if you are saying you don't care how the women look you are a liar.
3. pls define "old farts", "many, many years", and "spring chicken". (btw, i'm a rooster, not a chicken). An old fart is what you see when you look in the mirror- in other words opposite of a young stud, I will be an old fart in 10 or so years it happens to all of us.
4. i'm not taking offense at your statement, just to your stating that it's a fact and to your name calling.
---------- You are not taking offense, but you created this thread?

HAHAHAHA they are taking this too personal. One day if I am fortunate to live to 60 or 70, I too will be an old fart and have to resort to paying for pussy every time it's just the cold hard facts.
----------i rest my case!! Originally Posted by pmdelites

Dude fucking really? Jeez grow a pair for goodness sake!!!! This proves that you were part of the 80 percent that I referenced, if you are so butt hurt that you have reached the point of your life where you have no choice to pay for pussy so fucking what!!!!

The gay faggot lost me with all that Blue Font writing, that Tool Faggot should use Pink , it just seems more appropriate for his phony ass shit.

Yeh, I caught that right away too on the once a year 5k marathon stud as well, what a douche!!...Gotta love the "I'm too good looking and successful to have to pay for pussy" attitude, but here he fucking is on a StripperHookerMessageBoard... Lmao at JG DoucheWorth he's almost as big a joke as the Biggest Creeper on here since LickerLicense the overposter Suiram77!!

Anyone have a clue what SpermBreath 5K Marathon Man's former handle on here used to be? Originally Posted by ManSlut

Hey it's ManPussy this biggest loser on ECCIE. You are in a league of your own cupcake.
Number 1 you are a fat ass
Number 2 you have to pay for pussy because no female would dare fuck you for free
Number 3 which is the icing on the cake, you have money to pay for pussy, but no provider wants to fuck your fat ass even if you paid them triple the amount/ It sucks doesn't when you have money and the providers still don't want to screw you.

So what do you do- you resort to trying to be a bully, but you scare no one fat boy. You stoop to levels to harass providers like Tara Evans, you did the same to Mya Michelle, BrownSugarBaby and many more providers. How many providers have repeated with you? Very few, and if they have you wonder why they raise their rates on you hahahahahaha, you are a loser fat boy, always have been and always will be.

Everyone knows your M.O if a girl refuses to see you, you run to this forum and claim they are pimped out or managed. You haven't did a review in 3 years get a life pal.

You have been banned more times than any other hobbyist that I know you fucking loser.