Hello......................... .......I wrote a lengthy thread over in Diamonds and Tuxedos titled "Where are the Classy Girls?, so I won't elaborate at length about what I think on men and women.where to start? ha, ha.
I've made three calls thus far, unsuccessfully. All three calls were for a dinner date - a requirement for an initial meeting that I don't plan on changing.
Call #1: She didn't show up at the restaurant, and when I called to confirm, the person at the other end said I had the wrong number. It was from a BP ad, and given that I was soliciting dinner conversation instead of sex, it made me wonder if it was a sting looking for johns.
Call #2: She didn't show up at the restaurant - I texted her to tell her what I was wearing and looked like 15 minutes prior to the arranged meeting, and she texted me back that her car was broken down outside of Houston and that she had to call her mother to pick her up. I asked if she needed help, or a ride, and she said that her mom had her covered. I told her that she was welcome to bring her mother to dinner with her as a chaperone, since I was intending a "G" rated conversation and was reimbursing her for her time and dinner conversation - nothing I'd be concerned with her mother seeing - she texted me back that it was weird, and went silent when I inquired about a reschedule.
Call #3: She *did* show up, but wearing something indecent. I politely thanked her for showing up, gave her $20 to cover gas, and explained that I didn't think what she was wearing was suitable for a dinner date, especially opposite a suit and tie, and told her that I didn't wish to pursue our date any further. We weren't at Morton's, but what she was wearing was still inappropriately undressed.
I'd welcome advice from anyone on how I should proceed. Should I make a post here explicitly explaining the type of woman I'm after? The few that that have caught my eye (I care first and foremost about a winning smile) are explicitly newbie unfriendly.
I don't want to "work my way up" the lists. I have zero interest in making the acquaintance of many women. I don't expect to ever have provider references - a woman can be the judge of me through appearance, conversation, attitude and behavior. I'm married - happily so for the most part. There are some things in life that she has no interest in, so I'm looking for a beautiful creature to explore some of those interests with.
If pressed for details, the single most important thing I'm looking for is someone who can sit across a restaurant table with me, look dazzlingly beautiful, and if she doesn't know that Petite Sirah originated in the U.S. from Durif grapes being crossed with Syrah pollen, she has the confidence to say that the most important part of being a wine enthusiast is drinking the wines that taste good.
Advice is most welcome. Originally Posted by TravelingGentleman
ok first things first, do you know what this hobby is? your wife has no interest in sitting across from you in a restaurant and looking dazzlingly beautiful? lost me here. do that with your wife.
you come here for other things some wives don't do. or what are your "other" interests? book clubs? wine clubs? you know they have those right? even brew clubs. don't think eccie has them or I'm missing out. (someone better not tell me eccie has a bowling team! ha, ha.) if you're here most would think those interests pertain to this hobby. if so then, you're doing something wrong or just not trying enough. maybe you lost your game being married? don't know.
as for getting around references why make it more difficult than it has to be? take some of the newbie friendly girls out to dinner and get a couple of references. then meeting the ones you have more interest in you could tackle them for a dinner session. the system is in place and change doesn't go over very good. the system is also in place for a reason and most know how to work within the system. you're asking them to work outside what they know. you can fight it and you'll eventually find some that will be up for meeting you but there is no shortcut. which brings me to, the girls are not going to be used to your kind of request since it rarely happens if ever. maybe a first for some of them. when you make a presentation out of the norm it's sorta like when meerkats see a hawk. ha, ha! gotta take your lumps if you want to try the hobby out. otherwise maybe try a sugar daddy site or AFF.
probably forgot something I thought reading all that. one thing I didn't forget -
you invited her to bring her mom? dude! now that's classic. hey, new idea for a session - who wants to come meet my family and pretend to be my SO? ha, ha. (*sarcasm* so it's clear) that just didn't even seem like common sense if her mom really was helping her. odds are that was an excuse. you aren't gonna go far trying to outsmart excuses either. excuses you receive you just post on the board and sit back and learn.
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.............................. .............................. .............................. .........uh, for a cona-conno-eh, wine pro you don't know much about mead it seems. ha, ha. mead IS honey wine. the crap you're talking about is labeled as mead because there is no rules against it. you got it right that it is crap. did you know mead can be carbonated also? don't care for it. and you didn't even mention sweet mead of dry mead. sweet I find way better. some like dry drinks though. mead can be stored at room temp also. and the longer mead ages the better it gets. 3/5/10+ it just gets better and better. especially for the higher proofed meads. also mead greatly depends on the honey used. do you have any idea how many types of honey there are? and that's not even all of it. I will say I have often wondered how the vikings did it. not like they had as many different yeasts back then, which also make a difference. or how did they initiate the process? I should look that up someday. also doubt they had pure honey types unless by luck. one of the most liked is mead from orange blossom honey. heck some honey doesn't even exist across the sea.
I've read your profile and gather that you're a RenFen connoisseur. When you go this fall, stop by the German food boothes and ask for Mead. Dessert Mead - Viking Blod, not to be confused with Honey wine. Honey wine is fermented grape beverage that has been flavored with honey, while actual mead - the real deal - is fermented honey. It smells and tastes like honey. It doesn't pour quite as thick, but if it did, it would be hard to drink. It's what vikings and Arabs drank long before homo sapien discovered that yeast and hops could ferment wheat to create beer - and sadly a mostly forgotten art and beverage. But...one of the tastiest things you'll ever sample. Originally Posted by TravelingGentleman
straight from wiki -
The terms "mead" and "honey-wine" are often used synonymously. Honey-wine is differentiated from mead in some cultures. Hungarians hold that while mead is made of honey, water and beer-yeast (barm), honey-wine is watered honey fermented by recrement of grapes (or other fruits).
don't know about everyone else but I'm not Hungarian (so now everyone knows!) and typically that type of honey wine/mead is called and considered a melomel. store boughts ones suck. homebrewed ones can be quiet good.
