Southern voters confidence in the American dream my hurt DEMS in 2020

You are wrong again. I voted Democratic at the national level for the first time in 2008, not 2016. And I did not consider McCain an evil man at all.

I have at various times in various threads discussed why I will not vote for Trump -- part due to his lack of character and part due to issues. Whenever I discuss those issues your tendency is to rant and rave and turn the discussion to the Democratic contenders, all of whom you stereotype as far left socialists and Communists, who all believe the same on all issues.

Regarding Biden's comments on free healthcare for immigrants:

“I think undocumented people need to have a means by which they can be covered when they’re sick,” he said in a CNN interview, adding, “This is just common decency.”

“In an emergency they should have health care. Everybody should,” he added. "How do you say 'You're undocumented, I'm gonna let you die, man?'"

This will be a major issue in the 2020 election. All the candidates have time to clarify their stances on such issues. What happens in California is irrelevant to the rest of the country. California will not go Trump's way. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

You are so good with your convenient omissions....


Oh, so Biden’s position is that illegal immigrants who need urgent care should be able to visit the emergency room, otherwise known as-- exactly what the law already is today. It’s called the Emergency Medical Treatment And Labor Act, which “requires hospital emergency departments to medically screen every patient who seeks emergency care and to stabilize or transfer those with medical emergencies, regardless of health insurance status or ability to pay.”

That's OK SPEED you omit things that don't fit your templet...

Biden said in the interview that illegal immigrants “need to have a means by which they can be covered when they’re sick,” which apparently should not at all be confused with “health insurance.” He further clarified that the government should be “building more clinics around the country” so that illegal immigrants can be cared for “when they’re sick, when they’re ill.”

Is this not "health insurance"...SPEED??
The Gumment SHOULDN'T be in healthcare...PERIOD!!
You being a socialist YES.

The LSM could use more spin master like you!!

Since the campaign has just started and the Democratic nominee will be unknown for another year, the platform is yet to be finalized. However, here is the official 2019 platform:


Raising wages, closing the wealth gap, strengthening Social Security

Lowering health care costs; ensuring all Americans have access to quality, affordable health care; stabilizing Medicare and Medicaid

Sensible immigration reform that keeps America’s promise
Defending our borders, our ideals, and our institutions

Supporting our veterans and military families

Fixing our criminal justice system to eliminate systemic racism
Guaranteeing rights for minorities, people with disabilities, the LGBTQ community, and all Americans

Acting to advance women’s rights, protect access to reproductive care, fight for equal pay, stop violence against women, and elect more women to public office

Protecting and promoting every American’s fundamental right to vote

Advancing clean energy and climate change action

Common-sense gun reforms

Smarter infrastructure investments

Advancing access to liberty and equality for all

Investing in modern education and jobs programs that prepare our kids for tomorrow’s challenges
Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Good left wing platitudes SPEED...most of this shit they already fucked up!!
That is a laundry list of full of a lot of SJW nonsense.

Good left wing platitudes SPEED...most of this shit they already fucked up!!
That is a laundry list of full of a lot of SJW nonsense. Originally Posted by bb1961

You asked for it. You got it. Now you complain.

As I said, the marathon has just begun. We won't know for about a year who the Democrats will nominate for POTUS. We do know we have Trump, a man who has yet to break 50% approval rating despite success in the economic arena. A man who at this point in time in office has an approval rating above only Jimmy Carter, and we all know what happened to Carter in 1980. And whose approval rating outside the U.S. is even lower.

https://wallstreetonparade.com/2019/...dministration/

If Trump wins in 2020 I will support his being the duly elected POTUS. I may not like it but I most definitely will support it.

You are so good with your convenient omissions....


Oh, so Biden’s position is that illegal immigrants who need urgent care should be able to visit the emergency room, otherwise known as-- exactly what the law already is today. It’s called the Emergency Medical Treatment And Labor Act, which “requires hospital emergency departments to medically screen every patient who seeks emergency care and to stabilize or transfer those with medical emergencies, regardless of health insurance status or ability to pay.”

That's OK SPEED you omit things that don't fit your templet...

Biden said in the interview that illegal immigrants “need to have a means by which they can be covered when they’re sick,” which apparently should not at all be confused with “health insurance.” He further clarified that the government should be “building more clinics around the country” so that illegal immigrants can be cared for “when they’re sick, when they’re ill.”

Is this not "health insurance"...SPEED??
The Gumment SHOULDN'T be in healthcare...PERIOD!!
You being a socialist YES.

The LSM could use more spin master like you!! Originally Posted by bb1961

lol. Again with the socialist name calling. You know next to nothing about my political views on issues but I am a socialist.

What Biden said, and you quoted, is that EVERYONE deserves a certain level of health care. I agree.

Government run healthcare?? You are against it??? How about Medicare??? How about Medicaid??? I firmly support both.

Sorry bud. She's the face of the new Democratic party now. Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Please. You are showing a great lack of knowledge about the U.S. political scene. I bet the majority of voters are not even aware of AOC or have little to no knowledge of her political views. We are aware because we are active on a political forum. We listen to the news. We are tuned into the politics of this country. The average voter in this country is not. That is one reason only 60% of the eligible voters turn out for presidential elections.

AOC and the others on the left-most fringe of the Democratic party will have little to no impact on the 2020 presidential campaign. It is wishful thinking on your part to believe so.

ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ RATED UNFAVORABLY, FEWER DEMOCRATS THAN REPUBLICANS KNOW WHO SHE IS: POLL

Interestingly, 45 percent of Democrats said they had never heard of Ocasio-Cortez or had no opinion of her, topping the 33 percent of Republicans who said the same.


https://www.newsweek.com/alexandria-...rating-1317102

Please. You are showing a great lack of knowledge about the U.S. political scene. I bet the majority of voters are not even aware of AOC or have little to no knowledge of her political views. We are aware because we are active on a political forum. We listen to the news. We are tuned into the politics of this country. The average voter in this country is not. That is one reason only 60% of the eligible voters turn out for presidential elections.

AOC and the others on the left-most fringe of the Democratic party will have little to no impact on the 2020 presidential campaign. It is wishful thinking on your part to believe so.

ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ RATED UNFAVORABLY, FEWER DEMOCRATS THAN REPUBLICANS KNOW WHO SHE IS: POLL

Interestingly, 45 percent of Democrats said they had never heard of Ocasio-Cortez or had no opinion of her, topping the 33 percent of Republicans who said the same.


https://www.newsweek.com/alexandria-...rating-1317102 Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

What does that say about the dem party then, considering most of the leading dem candidates running for president have publicly endorsed AOC's "Green New Deal"?

Kinda says the majority of the dems are remaining uninformed and not listening or paying attention to what partisan politicos are planning to do in their name.

That's right there the biggest problem ( politicos NOT LISTENING or paying ATTENTION to anything BUT there pockets )

Well I have one word....millennials.

Please. You are showing a great lack of knowledge about the U.S. political scene. I bet the majority of voters are not even aware of AOC or have little to no knowledge of her political views. We are aware because we are active on a political forum. We listen to the news. We are tuned into the politics of this country. The average voter in this country is not. That is one reason only 60% of the eligible voters turn out for presidential elections.

AOC and the others on the left-most fringe of the Democratic party will have little to no impact on the 2020 presidential campaign. It is wishful thinking on your part to believe so.

ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ RATED UNFAVORABLY, FEWER DEMOCRATS THAN REPUBLICANS KNOW WHO SHE IS: POLL

Interestingly, 45 percent of Democrats said they had never heard of Ocasio-Cortez or had no opinion of her, topping the 33 percent of Republicans who said the same.


https://www.newsweek.com/alexandria-...rating-1317102 Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Democrats are not worried about the "poor" southern states mentioned. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

And "Democrats" aren't worried about the broke Western and Eastern states either .... like California and New York. How'd that turn out for them? Tried lying to a Federal judge, tossing the election, ignoring the electoral college, trashing Trump, and having him declared mentally unfit for office while trying to fabricate enough BS to have him tossed out of office by impeachment. Now they are filling the country with ballot box stuffers who are nonqualified to vote.

Their worst nightmare ...........

Please. You are showing a great lack of knowledge about the U.S. political scene. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

So says the one who the week before the 2016 Fall Fiasco predicted there was no way Trump could beat HillariousNoMore.

Or was that the Russian Scene"



AE .... just for your edification and comfort zone!

10-20-2016, 08:03 AM #21
SpeedRacerXXX


This election is OVER. Republicans should start focusing on 2020. Unless a bomb hits between now and November 8th there is no way Trump can overcome the lead that Clinton has in the polls. For those of you who are still not believing the polls . . . we'll see in a handful of days how accurate they are.

AE.... I was wrong ... it was a couple of weeks ...

Russian collusion slammed dunked her ass in 14 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That should scare the shit out of any Dumbocrat!!!!!!!!!!!

Even the Democrat who is in the White House now.

AE .... just for your edification and comfort zone!

10-20-2016, 08:03 AM #21
SpeedRacerXXX


This election is OVER. Republicans should start focusing on 2020. Unless a bomb hits between now and November 8th there is no way Trump can overcome the lead that Clinton has in the polls. For those of you who are still not believing the polls . . . we'll see in a handful of days how accurate they are.

AE.... I was wrong ... it was a couple of weeks ...

Russian collusion slammed dunked her ass in 14 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That should scare the shit out of any Dumbocrat!!!!!!!!!!!

Even the Democrat who is in the White House now.

But who would "you" want on your team ....

An heir apparent to the White House thrown who was a shoe-in for election along side her former 2-term President praised by the DNC/Democrats as better than sliced bread ... or the guy who partnered with a 2nd rate world power to slam dunk her ass in 14 days while her boss was till in charge in the White House and was the boss of all the U.S. intelligence and military assets to protect the country, the election process, and candidates .... not to mention his own fake legacy!!!!!

Personally, I want the guy who slammed dunked the Clintons!!!!!!!!!!! as my President dealing with the nefarious characters attempting to shape the landscape with their demented attitudes and behavior ... in this country and out.

lol. Again with the socialist name calling. You know next to nothing about my political views on issues but I am a socialist.

What Biden said, and you quoted, is that EVERYONE deserves a certain level of health care. I agree.

Government run healthcare?? You are against it??? How about Medicare??? How about Medicaid??? I firmly support both. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I did't know that calling someone a socialist was name calling...is the word socialist a pejorative...that's a new one to me??

Sad when people aren't proud of their philosophy...wonder why??
You can refer to me as a Conservative...I'm proud of that.
You SAID you're now a Democrap...they are the Socialist party...higher taxes, bigger, bloated and more intrusive Gumment PERIOD!!
Medicare is going to become insolvent sooner the expected.(Gumment run with rampant abuse)
Medicaid is just indigent healthcare.(Gumment run with rampant abuse)
Excellent examples you "FIRMLY" support SPEED.

I posted the quote about Bitten saying we need to build more healthcare facilities for the indigent illegals...you selectively left that out and anything that doesn't fit your templet.

You obviously support Obummercare and that is FAILED Gumment controlled healthcare...AKA socialism.
SPEED you can be whatever you want to be, but with all your support of BIG Gumment programs...it leaves little doubt.
Nice try though SPEED...I understand why you would take offense at being called a socialist.
I WOULD TOO!!

.... Obummercare and that is FAILED Gumment controlled healthcare... Originally Posted by bb1961

So now the loons "crank it up a notch" ... and embrace a TOTALLY government controlled healthcare system aka "one payer" ..... and the magic number of people in this country (legally and ILLEGALLY) who still need FREE HEALTHCARE is around 30 million.....

... FYI ... there are a lot of retired ("old people") with private healthcare insurance as part of their retirement package that they earned from a lifetime of dedicated work history, along with their retirement. These LOONS who want NATIONAL HEALTHCARE and abolish private insurance in the process are advocating the stripping of these retirees of their EARNED HEALTH INSURANCE so that 30 million NONWORKERS and ILLEGAL ALIENS can have healthcare for free.

..the loons want to NATIONALIZE health insurance in this country!

Next will be banks and other financial institutions. Why?

They will have to take over the financial institutions to forgive student loans and assure ALL PERSONS regardless of creditworthiness can borrow money to buy the "other real estate" held by the banks and other real estate lenders who loaned money with Federal guarantees to allow low income purchasers "TO HAVE A HOME" they cannot afford. The Katrina debacle with FEMA, SBA, and FHA-HUD et al is the model: balloon 5-year notes with below interest payments if one purchases a foreclosure on a government supported loan with the 2nd and 3rd liens cut off by the foreclosure of the underlying government guaranteed purchase loan. "No "self-respecting" ILLEGAL ALIEN should live in a rental property if they are going to vote for the Democrats ... they should be home owners!!!" .... at least until the first payment comes due!

Well I have one word....millennials. Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Millennials are defined as those born from 1981-1996. So they are currently 38-53 in age. But there are other age definitions for that group.

So you believe millennials, however you define that group, will solidly support the far left candidates? Any proof to back that up or is it your opinion?

And "Democrats" aren't worried about the broke Western and Eastern states either .... like California and New York. How'd that turn out for them? Tried lying to a Federal judge, tossing the election, ignoring the electoral college, trashing Trump, and having him declared mentally unfit for office while trying to fabricate enough BS to have him tossed out of office by impeachment. Now they are filling the country with ballot box stuffers who are nonqualified to vote.

Their worst nightmare ...........

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Do you have proof, any proof at all, that "ballot box stuffers who are nonqualified to vote" have had any impact on national elections?

No, Republicans and Democrats are not worried about the outcome of the vote in states like NY and California in 2020. To repeat, without getting into the positives and negatives of the voters, the 2020 presidential election will be decided by a handful of the 50 states, somewhere between 3 and 7. Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona, Florida for the most part. Possibly Minnesota, Nevada, and North Carolina.