question for providers.

Ditto to Daphne, Dallas, and CFE.

I also form connections with many of my gentleman callers. It's kind of my specialty, as I see myself more as courtesan than escort, and spend large chunks of time with some fellows. I'm pretty open about my life, get to know my Fanciful fans pretty well, but info like my real name wouldn't come out until I was thoroughly acquainted with someone for quite a while, and then only if we started traveling together and he needed the info for airline tickets.

There are people in this who want a sex partner for an hour, and there are those looking for both physical and mental stimulation, and then a few want true companionship on all levels. Each to his/her own diversion or perversion.

I have to agree with the OP, however, in that I absolutely HATE a liar. I just parted ways with a long-time Hobby friend because of his continued and intentional deceptions. (Had nothing to do with issues of identity or privacy, btw.) Fantasy is enjoyable, but deceit is hurtful.

You're NEVER entitled to know our personal info/business regardless of how long you've been a client. Should we choose to divuldge that info at some point is our decision, and if we never choose to, then don't bitch about it. This is a business, and a huge part of it is built on discretion.... You'd do well to remember that.

You're NEVER entitled to know our personal info/business regardless of how long you've been a client. Should we choose to divulge that info at some point is our decision..... Originally Posted by Valerie

Indeed.

To the OP: Are you distinguishing lies from the failure to disclose personal details? Do you see the reticence of a provider to reveal intimate data after seeing you repeatedly a form of dishonesty?

my guess is that would depend on the provider... reviews are your friend *wink*

I consider myself to be friends with one lady I have known for about four years. We talk about regular things and, in my opinion, it adds to the GFE experience. I see her about once a month. We enjoy each others company, as well as the sex.

That said, I know she is there for the $$$ and she knows I am there for the hot sex. For me it is a Win-Win situation. Hot sex with a beautiful woman I actually like, with No Strings Attached.

match.com

Indeed.

To the OP: Are you distinguishing lies from the failure to disclose personal details? Do you see the reticence of a provider to reveal intimate data after seeing you repeatedly a form of dishonesty?
Originally Posted by Fancyinheels

Yes, I don't feel entitled to any personal info. I do get upset when a provider tells me one thing unsolicited, then several sessions later tells me something completely different. I would rather they say nothing at all than lie to me. I get concerned when they actively lie to me. Thank you for helping me make that distinction.

[QUOTE=oilfieldscum;1052263775]They don't call this the coed forum for nothing.

You're right. Thanks to all the hobbyist with constructive input.

It sounds as if you are looking for a relationship with a provider. That can be a slipery slope but I would guess you already know. Originally Posted by oilfieldscum

OFS calling a spade a spade...

This is a business, and a huge part of it is built on discretion.... You'd do well to remember that. Originally Posted by Valerie

Indeed...
Now, send me that sexy avatar pic via email please

To the OP: Are you distinguishing lies from the failure to disclose personal details? Do you see the reticence of a provider to reveal intimate data after seeing you repeatedly a form of dishonesty?
Originally Posted by Fancyinheels

Hmmm....

...I know she is there for the $$$ and she knows I am there for the hot sex. For me it is a Win-Win situation. Hot sex with a beautiful woman I actually like, with No Strings Attached. Originally Posted by Oralist

match.com Originally Posted by brandilynn

LMMFAO....best post in the thread



Just my .02

my guess is that would depend on the provider... reviews are your friend *wink* Originally Posted by Brittanybellastar

You plan on coming back for a visit anytime soon?

I have a nickname for the hobby - sport fucking.

I don't want to be emotionally invested in a provider's life and I don't want her to be emotionally invested in my life. If I wanted that I would go to a bar, find a good looking chick, and hook up in an affair.

I think I have learned from my past experiences. Years ago I used to frequent tittie bars. I met a very beautiful, young lady and began a 6 month affair with her. It was quite simply the most devastating and expensive decision of my life.

Hell, no. I don't want to go there again!

I enjoy the fantasy - but it is just that - fantasy. I don't really believe the provider is studying to be a brain surgeon in her spare time and I am not really planning on running for President of the United States in 2016. (If I were, I sure as hell wouldn't be involved in the hobby. )

Mouthpiece that makes a lot of sense. I learned quickly to avoid strippers, they are all about the hustle and it's there full time job, and they will always be better at playing that game than us. You chose the providers and fantasy that fit your life and needs, and it sounds like after a lot of experience you found that. My situation is probably different than most. If I was in a bad marriage I would just leave. If I wanted a full time girlfriend/ affair I'd do that. If I wanted to knock down as many girls as I could Id do that, and like you I've done all of those things. They all left me feeling empty and worse off. By experience and learning from my mistakes, I found that I just have enough time, emotional energy for one provider, and it's only fulfilling if I feel like they respect me and I respect them. I keep my real life separate, and don't expect to intrude on their real life either, but I do enjoy having a separate type of real life I share with them. I know this isn't comfortable for all providers, so that is why I posed this question. I've had 2 full time fulfilling long term ATF's. The first one I ended things with because she wanted more from me than I could give her, and I was actually making her life worse by giving her hope of something I couldn't back up. The second moved to be with her family. I just want to know different people's experiences, both providers and hobbyist. Thanks for sharing.

Really, just like any interaction with someone else, I think it's usually about expectations and making sure both parties are aware of what they are so no one gets disappointed.

I can understand the distinction between thinking a provider should tell you all about their personal life, and just wanting them to be consistent in what they tell you. If your goal is to have a more 'GFE', I can see where a provider changing their story all around between sessions could ruin the GFE 'illusion' and be a turn-off. Although at the end of the day, maybe that is indeed truly GFE-esque!

It may be the vag-factor, but I also prefer to interact with providers with personality and are able to have reasonably intelligent and/or interesting conversations, so that those are the sessions we try to book. I can also see the viewpoint of people just wanting a fuck-n-go experience.

This all assumes everyone is honest about realistic expectations and stay within boundaries, of course!

Aside from shattering the GFE illusion, I can also see where a lack of consistency might make gentlemen wonder what else providers may be careless about.

That's why I decided not to weave a "backstory" for gentlemen that wasn't real. They either get the truth from me or little info at all. I don't want to keep notes on what I've told who.

Lies are like snowflakes; as more fall from your lips, the worse they pile up. Lose track and you get an avalanche!