In respond to Just4Hobby

Junfan68 should be banned for telling her what was said in ROS.

Sukka, I will never see you again because of your antics, here, and I would recommend that noone else does, either.

Frankly, I'm shocked at this topic and the venom associated with the comments.

When I see someone who specializes in Tantra, which I consider a higher realm of sexuality and one that I haven't actually reached myself yet, I expect a higher degree of sophistication and response and yes ... just a different way of presenting oneself.

Not getting into a pissing match with a client. I hadn't even noticed the review and went back and read it. I just didn't see anything bad about it at all. I cannot read the ROS but there was a yes recommendation! There is some confusion from the outside looking in as to what the issue really is.

Not only was there a lack of discretion but also, an attack on a person's physical characteristics which I find to be tasteless.

Why would you do that to one of your clients which, according to what I know of tantra, is an activity that borders on sacred?

Shaking my head. My VERY cheap advice is to step back and try to think up a really excellent plan of doing something for damage control. Tantra goddesses really shouldn't be having public tantrums.

Best,
Elisabeth

The market for tantric L1 isn't that large anyway...she just guaranteed a significant reduction in her share of it...

Is that a record for most rule violations in a single post? Originally Posted by Fort Worth Punk

Not even close !! lol

First of all, I'm taking responsibility for my outburst, which resulted in this thread. My bad for bringing myself to this level. You are absolutely correct, a Tantra Goddess should not engage in this type of behaviour.

I have been in communication with the mods and have explained myself. I actually asked to delete this thread and move on, but I hadn't seen the last 4 posts. So I feel a clarification of the facts is in order.

Elisabeth, depending on when you went back to the original review, you might have missed one of the posts (from Junfan) that apparently was supposed to be private, but for some reason it was public to read. He (mistake or not) quoted a couple of paragraphs from the original ROS.

Without going into all the details, bassically the possitive review was only for J4H to get $20 off his next session. He expressed dissapointment on not getting the "hype" that other clients have reached thru the session.

After I read this, I sent a Private Message to J4H, which I originally posted in the content of my thread. I neglected to read the rules of this board, so yes, my bad.

Instead of responding to my PM, J4H started a public rant against me and JunFan, falsely accusing him of revealing the ROS to me. All I read from the ROS was what was quoted public. You can't read it anymore because the mods turned it private.

As for posting private information. J4H's real name is not what I posted. This chinese guy goes by different names, as I'm sure his real one is chinese. Providers in this board should actually beware of this guy. Several of his posts are vindictive and trying to get revenge on something he doesn't express at the time of his sessions.

As for the details on his privates and current physical struggles, I believe J4H has made this info public before. However, I admit this doesnt justify me.

For those of you who are chosing not to see me again based on the drama in hand: Is up to you to take this personally and react; or be objective and base your decision on what your personal experience was. I try my best to provide a great time to my clients and my regulars can attest to that. I ALWAYS look at them in the eye and ask if the exchange for the $$ was even. I'm open to feedback.

Nothing else I may add will change the fact that both J4H and myself should had handle this in private. I'm taking responsibilty for my actions. I don't expect J4H does the same.

Peace

Based on the ROS stuff that Junfan posted, it sounded like J4H had a hell of a time. I have no clue why Junfan made all those argumentative posts. The review said it felt better than just about any sex he had and I guess Junfan thought that wasn't good enough to deserve a positive recommendation. From what I saw, the said a lot a great things about the session and Junfan twisted them around. You should be made at Junfan. He's the one who fucked you over with his pettiness ("how dear you claim you only had a great time! She made me levitate around the room!).

I also think it is bullshit that you apologize for disclosing the reviewer's personal information and then a couple paragraphs later you disclose even more personal information.

This is another example of a self alert.

I just dont understand... maybe if someone could explain? Why ever talk badly about a client in public forum unless he was violent or ripped you off.. in which case u do an alert. Everything else negative should stay between the provider and client or simply let go.
And this is way worse then simply talking bad about a client.. but to give out personal information about him? and on top of that to call him names and make fun of penis size?
I dont really know what stirred this up and frankly dont care.. but i couldnt bite my tongue on the bashing of client... i think that most men who have "personal issues" are already embarassed about it.. and they come to us in hopes for assistance.. i think that takes a lot of trust. And for u to go and represent providers by outting that info? What did u hope to accomplish with this thread other than lowering your volume drastically and ur client list.
Why are you warning us not to see him? Shit, id be pissed and hurt too if I was a client and the provider did this.
Most experienced hobbyist know that YMMV is huge in this world. Sounds like whoever told you twisted info didnt understand this and got jealous?
Also... it makes u look like an idiot.. nothing worse than walking into the middle of a conversation, assuming its negative and then speaking without the facts.. which is basically what u did when u only saw a portion of what was in ROS.
Is there really damage control for this? Probably not.. because every man is going to wonder if you will start a thread talking and bashing about is inabilities and size.

Common sense isnt on every girls menu obviously. So allow me to give you some of mine... NEVER bash a client publicly. Unless its something to be put in an alert thread and even then, there is no reason to bash size or inabilities...

I'm not going keep beating this horse. I have explained, apologized and taken responsibility for over reacting to J4H's:

Apparently, you also told her ROS one way or the other and she had the same questions and reprimanded me, quoting you as her source, in a long PM.

Lack of discretion happened on both sides and this was the end result.

Is there really damage control for this? Probably not.. because every man is going to wonder if you will start a thread talking and bashing about is inabilities and size. Originally Posted by LusciousLacy

I've been teaching Tantra since 2010. So, if my regulars are reactive to "wonder", it will be better for them not to come back, as clearly they are unable to "observe" instead of "participate".

For most of the ladies/providers this forum is the main source of their clientele. It's not for me. So, I think I can feel confident that I have built strong rapport with my regulars over these years and they are mature enough to separate themselves from this drama.

I'm done with this subject.

You cant put the horse back into the barn. You insulted him, revealed personal info which had to be edited showing no discretion, and you broke many board guidelines doing so. tiny dick.... shakin my head...

If you don't want reviews, don't advertise here. I just read the review and frankly it was not a negative review, even in the ROS.

Reiki and tantra is some bullshit. Any practitioner of these modalities should be prepared for some expectations on the clients side not being met. Often , we cannot get on the spiritual energy plane and direct it into earth shattering satisfying experiences.


Thank you for the self posted alert. I have all the info I need.

I have never criticized, judged or attacked any escort providers. Not here or anywhere. So, unless you have real knowledge on the Body Energy work, rituals, and teaching that I do, you are in no position to post such personal attack.

I started getting reviews even before I decided to set up a profile here. But to your point, I think it is better for me to remove it. Again, no disrespect to the services you and others provide, but a profile here is creating wrong assumptions about my services.

In past reviews I've been hardly attacked and criticized for my looks. I've read very demeaning posts. Yet nobody cared.

So, yeah... I'm aware that dealing with all sort of idiots indeed comes with the territory.

Do you go to school to be a tantra goddess? Did they offer a client relations segment

I think you should just let this go, what's done is done (time's your best damage control now).


"Whether it’s sadness, hurt feelings or anger, acting on emotions will cloud your judgment and will result in your business being in a position you don’t really want, or need it to be."

I love this place Originally Posted by monkmonk

I almost fell off the couch laughing!!!

Sorry...carry on

I just dont understand... maybe if someone could explain? Why ever talk badly about a client in public forum unless he was violent or ripped you off.. in which case u do an alert. Everything else negative should stay between the provider and client or simply let go.
And this is way worse then simply talking bad about a client.. but to give out personal information about him? and on top of that to call him names and make fun of penis size?
I dont really know what stirred this up and frankly dont care.. but i couldnt bite my tongue on the bashing of client... i think that most men who have "personal issues" are already embarassed about it.. and they come to us in hopes for assistance.. i think that takes a lot of trust. And for u to go and represent providers by outting that info? What did u hope to accomplish with this thread other than lowering your volume drastically and ur client list.
Why are you warning us not to see him? Shit, id be pissed and hurt too if I was a client and the provider did this.
Most experienced hobbyist know that YMMV is huge in this world. Sounds like whoever told you twisted info didnt understand this and got jealous?
Also... it makes u look like an idiot.. nothing worse than walking into the middle of a conversation, assuming its negative and then speaking without the facts.. which is basically what u did when u only saw a portion of what was in ROS.
Is there really damage control for this? Probably not.. because every man is going to wonder if you will start a thread talking and bashing about is inabilities and size.

Common sense isnt on every girls menu obviously. So allow me to give you some of mine... NEVER bash a client publicly. Unless its something to be put in an alert thread and even then, there is no reason to bash size or inabilities... Originally Posted by LusciousLacy

COULDN'T AGREE MORE.