No references...what info do you provide?

I totally agree with mz nikki...Do you really think
that just because you had seen a girl that didn't screen you,
and you give me her name as a ref, I'm gonna be like ..okay great come on over..no sweetheart..I'm not gonna see you..I will not put my life in the hands of a girl
that doesn't screen. I will have you go through my screening process..
I have these policies in place to keep me safe. If you don't trust that provider with info..why in the world are you calling her in the first place??
Just go right to cl and call one of those girls..they will see you no problems without any info given on your part...
Remember "House Rules" trump any "Boys Club" rules...

Be Safe be Smart!
nita..

Sorvid,

I can attest to the need for these ladies to use screening and in fact if they aren't already, tighening their processes up. I am for certain they don't wish to see their faces posted on the 5, 6, and 11 pm local news reports, and have themselves, their families and friends humiliated.

We were all once new on here and the previous site many of us used, and had to go through the process of getting known and cleared. The mods, us other members, and most of all, the ladies will help you all we can to help you get going. The well reviewed ladies on here will not do anything to cause you or they any harm quite the contrary they will do their upmost to keep us all as safe as can be.

It is strange that some can start with no problem. And others have a hard time getting started. I wish sometimes that there was a easy plan in, that could be posted. But that can not happen. For that would be the door to the end.

I have not seen someone new to me for sometime now. Holding out for my own reasons. But I bet if I do so for too long I will have to kinda have to start over with some of the pain of a newbie. But it is a fact that we have to live with to keep all safe.

This topic always intrigues me... Maybe its just me and although I am trying to limit my play, but have been around for a while, I have never had an issue seeing a lady, and have never given any personal information. If your single no big deal, but I believe most on here are looking for very discreet variety. Why would you chance it? Basically both parties are taking a chance at this game, and much can be judged on a casual phone call. Ultimately it comes down to how dangerous and free do you want to be with your personal info. My opinion dont give out anything that you dont want coming back to you.

I'm new to this hobby and have no references. My first contact asked me for name (fine), cell (ok) and work info (what!?). I walked away from the deal. It seemed too risky. What is your experience? Originally Posted by sorvad

This is a tough issue for a newbie.

I totally phucked up my relationship with a local provider early on when confronted with some of the process.

Fortunately I had enough momentum at that point that I was able to continue to meet a greater number of the local providers.

If the right provider asks you for that information, you're okay.

SO...the questions for a newb are, "Which are the right providers? How would I know? Am I comfortable in ANY circumstance sharing information that personal?"

If you want to PM me, I'll tell you which providers I would trust.

Even if you have a good idea of who you'll want to see, you need to know if you personally feel comfortable revealing so much.

To that, I'd just say there are providers who know who I am, where I live, who my wife is....

If this is the right hobby for you, you'll end up in any case revealing enough stuff about yourself that the bread crumbs can be tracked IF that was the goal to begin with.

I happen to agree with Nikki that the providers MUST be careful.

Having seen Nikki a few times, I'm encouraged that she has that attitude.

For one, I care enough about her to want her to be safe.

More selfishly, if she's safe, I'm safer.


---penned from deep in the Man Cave...

I feel for you Sorvad, also being new to the hobby I also have my reservations on giving out personal info over the web . But I also understand why most providers require it. Thanks for responding to me Naughty, working on building my courage to make the call to P411

anita, I like your response,
Guys and Galls.
I cannot stress how important Safety is for ALL of us.
Verify, verify, verify.
Ladies I support you all the way. Do your best to make sure that we are all safe in this community.

Why thank you ...thank you very much...(cnym thats my elvis inpers...):-D

sorvad - you were quickly approaching my post total and I suddenly had a competitive urge...so I'm posting!!! lol

If you view the boards with any frequency, it becomes somewhat clear the providers that many gents are clearly extremely comfortable with.

That being the case, and being I am a newb (um, in addition to "newd"), if it is okay with you, NormalBob, ... I will PM you to confirm my sense of who I can trust to de-flower me.

please do newd.

good feedback from all. You are making this way easier for me to do the right thing. And I have a new appreciation for he precaution the ladies need to take for their safety.

The safer the ladies are, the safer WE are.

I get the "bail out" every day with clients that fear to give out info. . . .it's okay I get that they have justifiable fear and that they don't get this process.

Everyone must know, don't talk details and give out your information. The best idea? Get through one of us ladies that have extensive screening . . . most of the other ladies know that and then the names you throw are your ticket. . . but KNOW your referenses WILL be checked and if come back as a lie or a bad referense alerts will be put out and your hobby career will not go well or be put t an end.

We all make mistakes, I have made MANY!!! lol I am so that girl that tries to put something together without the instructions lol.But we live and learn and do differently the next time Just respect everyone in the process, never take offense just try to understand and things will flow well.

I get the "bail out" every day with clients that fear to give out info. . . .it's okay I get that they have justifiable fear and that they don't get this process.

Everyone must know, don't talk details and give out your information. The best idea? Get through one of us ladies that have extensive screening . . . most of the other ladies know that and then the names you throw are your ticket. . . but KNOW your referenses WILL be checked and if come back as a lie or a bad referense alerts will be put out and your hobby career will not go well or be put t an end.

We all make mistakes, I have made MANY!!! lol I am so that girl that tries to put something together without the instructions lol.But we live and learn and do differently the next time Just respect everyone in the process, never take offense just try to understand and things will flow well. Originally Posted by Chloe

AMEN,
Listen to Chloe and Learn my Friend
Go through extensive screening with one of the reputable and trusted providers. Then, she will be your first reference.

Chloe, I assure you we all have made our mistakes and learned from them.

I had a guy give me all his personal info, his business info and a photo in an email. I took my chances after putting all money into an Bank of America ATM and saw him in the hotel bar. He came upstairs, turned his phone off and threw an envelope onto the bed and stayed in the bathroom until I checked on him. Turns out he is so nervous, he stutters and shakes and made two previous providers nervous of him so I told him to talk about that stuff in an email and saw him. He gave me double my donation but 100 extra if I agreed to give him an email on message boards and how to become a verified hobbyist.

No references...what info do you provide? Originally Posted by sorvad

Your last five tax returns should suffice. . .