cbj vs bbbj

CBJ, BBBJ, GFE...just make it clear. Communication is always the key.
Met a visiting provider. Reviews were suggestive but did not really answer questions. Her ad said she would not answer questions on the phone. She looked hot. I bit. Get there...she looked as good as her pics. Slapped down the donation and got as comfortable as she. Asked about the menu. She told me she does not talk about that. We are naked. We are ready. But you do not want to tell me the does and don'ts?
I tried, but could not get into it. Left in 15 minutes.

There's no such thing as GFE without bbbj. Cbj is a dealbreaker unless the lady is hot, has an excellent attitude, and charges no more than CLX for a full hour of L3 fun.

CBJ, BBBJ, GFE...just make it clear. Communication is always the key.
Met a visiting provider. Reviews were suggestive but did not really answer questions. Her ad said she would not answer questions on the phone. She looked hot. I bit. Get there...she looked as good as her pics. Slapped down the donation and got as comfortable as she. Asked about the menu. She told me she does not talk about that. We are naked. We are ready. But you do not want to tell me the does and don'ts?
I tried, but could not get into it. Left in 15 minutes. Originally Posted by tbonetas

This is a good example of HOBBY RULE#1....BUYER BEWARE!

lmao

We shouldn't forget that CBJ has its own unique risks:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14870871

Ouch.

CBJ vs BBBJ. is like real sking on fresh powder vs Wii game on TV
JMHO. Romab

Sure Bbbj feels better but it's a lot easier to explain a random cold sore on the mouth (LFK) to the SO ie. Drank out of the wrong coffee cup at work etc. then it would be the random cold sore on the junk.

So it's cbj for me, strictly for safely reasons.

It's a personal choice, everyone is free to make their own.

No GFE is not fake GF I go by p 411 definition and it is bbbj and dfk. I don't do dfk but it still to me should be an option along with bbbj to get GFE status. It is sometimes a premium service you pay extra for to get GFE. Originally Posted by trey

I think snowballing should be added to that definition

snowballing yuck the only way I'm going to have anything to do with snowballing is if i get a doubles session, and thats up to them I aint asking. I think snowballing is in its own category

All I can say is that I have never had a real life GF who did CBJ on me. I'll bet no one on this board has, either. So how can CBJ be GFE?

All I can say is that I have never had a real life GF who did CBJ on me. I'll bet no one on this board has, either. So how can CBJ be GFE? Originally Posted by tikkler33

I'm sure you dont use condoms at all with your gf or wives so does that mean everyone who claims to be GFE should offer bbfs??

**I enjoy a healthy debate, nothing more, nothing less. So, dont bite my head off** lol

There is just a "bit" of a difference between BBFS and BBBJ. The dangers of dying from BBFS are obvious, while not nearly as great from BBBJ.

But there are still dangers hun... as you said they arent "nearly as great" yet they are still there

At the end of the day, everyone likes what they like. No one can clearly define GFE bc it's different for everyone. If it was the same then we clearly wouldn't have this topic discussed OVER & OVER again. lol

Another thing to note is that cbj's weaken the condom making them more likely to break during penetration.

And "GFE" is a very ill defined term...means different things to different folks. I think you could claim to be GFE and do only cbj if both parties are agreeable. It's kinda awkward at times but i try to ask if "everything is covered" before i agree to a session.
Originally Posted by caseytx

In my experience, 99.9% of gents expect that if a provider advertises as GFE the hobbyist is for sure getting two things: DFK and BBBJ.

So if a provider refuses to talk about services on the phone, and she doesn't list her activities anywhere, as is the case with the vast majority of providers, and you arrive to the session and don't recieve these services as part of your session even though you are expecting them...then what?

Note that any legit provider will NOT discuss anything concerning sexual services in person before the session starts either.

If provider A advertises as GFE and does include BBBJ and DFK and charges $200 per hour, and provider B advertises as GFE and does not include BBBJ or DFK and also charges $200 per hour...and you don't know this going in but are expecting services commonly and widely accepted as part of a GFE session...is this OK? Fair?

If a provider advertises herself as L1 (HJ) but includes full service in her session...does this make sense?

Maybe we should add a few new hobby terms:

GFE Plus-for the GFE providers that include some PSE services in addition to a standard GFE menu. Maybe these girls should charge a bit more.

GFE Lite-for the GFE providers that do most of the standard GFE items but maybe only LFK and CBJ. Maybe these providers should charge a bit less.

Then again, I might be overthinking it! LOL

no new terms please, I mean the PSE term to me is bull shit from the start what the fuck is a pornstar experience. I mean if i stick my dick in you and you are a porn star thats the pornstar exprence. If you dont pay for the PSE does the chick just lay there like a log and do nothing.


If you are not going to be gfe just say "everything covered"