Back to the Basics?

If anyone needs me, I'll be on the corner of Mopac and Go Fuck Yourself.

Stroll, baby, stroll.

Almost all of you dudes say Whispers degrades women but look in the mirror. Many of you people are full of hypocrisy.

Don't you think paying hookers for sex isn't degrading to your wife, GF and daughters?

Other than violence cheating on your wife or GF is about as degrading as it gets. Especially if you are paying a hooker.

But like any the rock throwers would say "cheating is a harmless form of degradation."

The fact that you and some others take offense to the term "whore" or other terminology simply reflects to me that you are insecure in your participation in what this place is all about. It is a descriptive word and the issues do not arise in my use of the word but in other's attempts to glamorize what it is they choose to do.


All the back and forth and week long exchanges seldom involve the whores themselves or the vast majority of Johns that research fuck, review and go back to their day to day lives. It is usually older johns that rely heavily on their interactions with whores on the board or at socials for the only social live they think they have that blow it all up.

The wusses come and go....... Whores as well...... Over the years I've stayed true to myself and a promise I made Amber many years ago in Houston and still managed to build countless relationships with people here, in Houston, South Florida and the LA area and know my hobby wherever I am located. Guys like you and Sydmo are never really interested in the wealth of information that is available. Just in grandstanding for some attention from some old whore.... Originally Posted by Whispers

WE all know you love the sound of your own voice, droning on and on and on.. It's a sign of how your were raised, Manners count!! We all know that's a concept you can't get a grasp on...

The fact that you and some others take offense to the term "whore" or other terminology simply reflects to me that you are insecure in your participation in what this place is all about. It is a descriptive word and the issues do not arise in my use of the word but in other's attempts to glamorize what it is they choose to do.


All the back and forth and week long exchanges seldom involve the whores themselves or the vast majority of Johns that research fuck, review and go back to their day to day lives. It is usually older johns that rely heavily on their interactions with whores on the board or at socials for the only social live they think they have that blow it all up.

The wusses come and go....... Whores as well...... Over the years I've stayed true to myself and a promise I made Amber many years ago in Houston and still managed to build countless relationships with people here, in Houston, South Florida and the LA area and know my hobby wherever I am located. Guys like you and Sydmo are never really interested in the wealth of information that is available. Just in grandstanding for some attention from some old whore.... Originally Posted by Whispers

Your post shows just how clueless you are. Not about yourself--I would hope and assume you are reasonably knowledgeable about yourself--but about me and the "some others" you reference.

No, contrary to your narrow focus, my comments were not directed to your use of the word "whore". That is just a small symptom of your attitude, not the crux of it. Your attitude--and you are far from the only one--is a demeaning attitude towards most women in general. In that respect you are very close to the "barefoot and pregnant" perspective. I happen not to agree with it, and if you have the right to express your side of things, I feel I have the right to express mine. Do you think I don't?

And it is so kind of you to speak for all in "what this place is all about". There you are completely wrong. This is a multi-purpose info exchange/communication place. You know what YOU use it for, you say you know what Amber intended when she started ASPD (I won't argue either of those), but a web site like this--ESPECIALLY because it is not the one Amber set out to form--is a living entity that becomes what the members make it into, and that evolves. If you care to dictate what the perspective of all must be then host your own private blog.

I am quite aware that I use it differently than you do, and quite honestly I suspect the majority don't frequent the discussion boards at all. I don't think I have ever said you should not use it for what you feel suits you--but don't tell me that I should have to use it as you do. Or that people cannot tell you that you are crude and misogynist when you post something that clearly is.

As to what my social life is, you have no clue at all. It certainly contains many more aspects that this board, or escorts in total--though I do consider a number of people I have met here as friends. And again, contrary to your claims, I do nothing on here with the intent of "grandstanding for some attention from some old whore" as you colorfully express. When I desire a lady's attention I write to her--it seems a far more efficient method don't you think? When I post something here, it is to express my opinion--if some lady (who I will likely never meet) writes to me about it, that is an unexpected consequence--albeit often but not always a pleasant one.

I am sorry if you seem to feel uncomfortable when someone expresses a perspective contrary to yours. Maybe you have a more sensitive side that you care to express after all.

Lastly, to end on a positive tone--since I am generally a positive person--I have often acknowledged that you ARE a wealth of information. Some I have found quite helpful, some is about things I don't care about, and some I disagree with. Isn't that what a discussion board is supposed to be about?

Almost all of you dudes say Whispers degrades women but look in the mirror. Many of you people are full of hypocrisy.

Don't you think paying hookers for sex isn't degrading to your wife, GF and daughters?

Other than violence cheating on your wife or GF is about as degrading as it gets. Especially if you are paying a hooker.

But like any the rock throwers would say "cheating is a harmless form of degradation." Originally Posted by Treetop78759

For a short post you have several nuggets worth comment.

You say most people are attacking W; but he says most agree with him. Which is it? I think you better check you most current "Whispers Speaks" notes and get on the same page.

So you are saying the correctness of W's posts depends upon the married state of the reader?

OK, if that is what you believe then maybe you are beyond help.

And to answer your question, I for one would consider your campaign to provide "management and protection services" to women, i.e. your campaign to be a pimp, far more degrading. just my opinion of course.

As I've said many times whispers, you have great Knowledge and experience in this business. You contribute almost as much as you contaminate with your High Horse (better than thou) bullshit.

I can assure you, over the years, I've seen (and been pleased by) as many of the Working Ladies as you have, I just don't feel the need to admonish them, like you do. Hell, I love-em

If anyone needs me, I'll be on the corner of Mopac and Go Fuck Yourself. Originally Posted by Claire She Blows

fuckin Love it

Men need not panic. Pussy is always around and the loss of internet advertising will drive prices down and pussy will find us or make itself known.

I can see some of the whores that got used to it being made easy for them panicking some but there will be an uptick in the volume of pimps wouldn't you guess?

Mixed in with the legitimate SBs available is an abundance of whores already to be found. Originally Posted by Whispers

Whispers has a good point. He's been around a long time, seen some shit, and determined the path that worked best for him and I respect that.

However, consider another possible alternative.

The vast majority of escort sites go down. This takes out the providers who were not able to save for an emergency, who perhaps have poor reputation while providing, those who need to immediately provide what they can to feed children and re-enter the legit workforce, those who are not natural hustlers, those lacking in drive and ambition to now really struggle to do this, and those who lack technology skills, some just enter the workforce at whatever job they can. Boom - 2/3 of the professional sluts are evaporated.

Just how do you think that will effect rates for those providers who manage to survive and find a way to be visible?

Demand is still as high as ever. Demand will not diminish, it never has and it never will. Only now, you mongers don't have references (the hoes you have visited have vanished) your reviews are gone, and the sites you relied on before for anonymous fucking have disappeared into the ether. Now just finding a suitable provider becomes difficult, you're not going to drive Rundberg, screening becomes invasive.

Sure the Sugar Baby is a reasonable alternative route. From what I understand, never having met Whispers before, he can be charming, effusive and witty in person. That probably pulls him pussy others would find difficult to get. Unfortunately most people are not like that. A lot of people have a great deal of anxiety and devastating social awkwardness, not to mention the personalities of a piss-soaked cum sock getting kicked back and forth from the ARC downtown to Red River.

Lack of visible escorts which have pretty much been a sure thing for the awkward and/or less appealing means "Sugar Babies" now have an overflowing pool from which to derive their income. I'm gonna take a stab and say they're not going to be interested in holding hands with Bumbling Johnny Dickwank across a table at Lambert's for a steak and $50 bucks, much less overlook the taco meat in the chest hair for a couple Bens. Meaning these lil babies are going to realize they can maximize their pay to effort ratio pretty quickly. So now you're left with just another cuter name for a less experienced and more expensive form of harlotry.

I dunno, I'm not making predictions, I'm just posing a different outcome for le shits and le giggles.

I agree Miss V. This has been around since the beginning of time itself. There will always be demand. But if supply shrinks - prices go up. That's true for anything. Hell, you can compare it to real estate prices here in Austin. Back when there were tons of apartments for rent - rent was cheap. Now that everyone and their dog has moved to Austin the demand is thru the roof and supply is limited - hence the astronomical prices for a little itty bitty apartment. Oh well, we'll see what happens.

Whispers has a good point. He's been around a long time, seen some shit, and determined the path that worked best for him and I respect that.

However, consider another possible alternative.

The vast majority of escort sites go down. This takes out the providers who were not able to save for an emergency, who perhaps have poor reputation while providing, those who need to immediately provide what they can to feed children and re-enter the legit workforce, those who are not natural hustlers, those lacking in drive and ambition to now really struggle to do this, and those who lack technology skills, some just enter the workforce at whatever job they can. Boom - 2/3 of the professional sluts are evaporated.

Just how do you think that will effect rates for those providers who manage to survive and find a way to be visible?

Demand is still as high as ever. Demand will not diminish, it never has and it never will. Only now, you mongers don't have references (the hoes you have visited have vanished) your reviews are gone, and the sites you relied on before for anonymous fucking have disappeared into the ether. Now just finding a suitable provider becomes difficult, you're not going to drive Rundberg, screening becomes invasive.

Sure the Sugar Baby is a reasonable alternative route. From what I understand, never having met Whispers before, he can be charming, effusive and witty in person. That probably pulls him pussy others would find difficult to get. Unfortunately most people are not like that. A lot of people have a great deal of anxiety and devastating social awkwardness, not to mention the personalities of a piss-soaked cum sock getting kicked back and forth from the ARC downtown to Red River.

Lack of visible escorts which have pretty much been a sure thing for the awkward and/or less appealing means "Sugar Babies" now have an overflowing pool from which to derive their income. I'm gonna take a stab and say they're not going to be interested in holding hands with Bumbling Johnny Dickwank across a table at Lambert's for a steak and $50 bucks, much less overlook the taco meat in the chest hair for a couple Bens. Meaning these lil babies are going to realize they can maximize their pay to effort ratio pretty quickly. So now you're left with just another cuter name for a less experienced and more expensive form of harlotry.

I dunno, I'm not making predictions, I'm just posing a different outcome for le shits and le giggles. Originally Posted by Miss Valentina

This is not a simple market transaction though. This is an illicit, illegal, black market act. when the risk of procuring a pay for play date goes up, surely the demand drops drastically.

A better analogy to make might be questioning what happens when a farmer can’t get their good to market before they spoil. If the product is no good, it doesn’t matter how many buyers there are. Now, the good farmers who bring quality fruit to market can really set the price high, but no one is buying mealy grapefruits at avocado prices.

So then, the question remains: how do we establish the price of over-ripe fruit? Unlike the current market trend of chasing the highest dollar per pound the market will bear, we’re going to end up doing the opposite: working the price structure from the bottom – – How many ears of corn can you get for a dollar?

Supply is not going to Shrink Ellen. Whore's have monkeys on their back that demand to be fed. desperation finds it's way here at the beginning of every month as whores discount their wares trying to make rent payments.

Those problems will immediately become harder for whores to resolve and desperation grows and there will be no shortage of $300 an hour whores used to doing 10 tricks a week finding themselves at 3-4 tricks a week needing immediate cash flow.

very few are heading to Circle K or Valero to apply. offered $150 to $200 they are face down ass up and Thank-ful for the opportunity to earn.

Demand will decrease long before supply. Bottom line is ordering up some pussy simply became too damn easy for many guys that will probably turn their back on it all.

How many stories do you see from guys that find their way here and stay because it's easier than dating or going top a pickup bar?

That all goes away.

And it's amazing the ignorance so many have for my comments regarding the SD sites.

This is not a simple market transaction though. This is an illicit, illegal, black market act. when the risk of procuring a pay for play date goes up, surely the demand drops drastically.

A better analogy to make might be questioning what happens when a farmer can’t get their good to market before they spoil. If the product is no good, it doesn’t matter how many buyers there are. Now, the good farmers who bring quality fruit to market can really set the price high, but no one is buying mealy grapefruits at avocado prices.

So then, the question remains: how do we establish the price of over-ripe fruit? Unlike the current market trend of chasing the highest dollar per pound the market will bear, we’re going to end up doing the opposite: working the price structure from the bottom – – How many ears of corn can you get for a dollar? Originally Posted by 3daygetaway

So what does the farmer do when someone comes along a few days before his crops become untenable and offers him 1/3 of what they are worth? Does he take the money?

A bird in hand is better than two in the bush

but a hand in the bush is better than anything whispers can hope for.^^^^^^^^^^^^^