yes, but at taxpayers expense. Originally Posted by dilbert firestormExactly.
Exactly. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXXAnd "exactly" how much of the "seed money" was paid out before the Europeans rolled over? I suspect in a week's time the paper work wasn't even prepared for a requesting application.
yes, but at taxpayers expense. Originally Posted by dilbert firestormAmerican farmers selling soybeans to the EU is not funded, in any exceptional way, by the taxpayers any more than American farmers selling soybeans to the Chinese. The EU just agreed to pick up China's slack.
Exactly. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXXThe EU just agreed to pick up China's slack, speedy, or are you too stupid to understand that?
Yes it will. And they wouldn't need the help if Trump hadn't imposed tariffs on other countries and they retaliated. That's $12 billion of taxpayers money. Socialism. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXXYou're a moron, speedy. It's the soybean market in China that was impacted by the new tariffs, and China is damn well stealing American intellectual property, speedy. So, something damn well needs to happen to stop that, and holding China accountable is a first step.
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And "exactly" how much of the "seed money" was paid out before the Europeans rolled over? I suspect in a week's time the paper work wasn't even prepared for a requesting application.Well that certainly frames the debate!
So how much "taxpayer" money was pissed off?
We've had "farm subsidies" for decades .... longer than you've been around that's for sure.
You anti/never Trumpers have a "porn star" ... who got busted for sticking her tits in some customer's face ....
.... that's about it ... not to mention ...
Hillary having a post-election "defeat dinner" with two predators. Originally Posted by LexusLover
American farmers selling soybeans to the EU is not funded, in any exceptional way, by the taxpayers any more than American farmers selling soybeans to the Chinese.I'm with Dilbert on the farm subsidies. Our tax dollars pay for them. They do fund selling soybeans by American farmers, to the EU, China and wherever else they sell.
The EU just agreed to pick up China's slack. Originally Posted by I B Hankering
I'm with Dilbert on the farm subsidies. Our tax dollars pay for them. They do fund selling soybeans by American farmers, to the EU, China and wherever else they sell.That doesn't change anything: "American farmers selling soybeans to the EU is not funded, in any exceptional way, by the taxpayers any more than American farmers selling soybeans to the Chinese."
Hopefully the US and EU will follow through and get rid of tariffs instead of intensifying the trade war. That would be a great outcome. The situation with Canada, Mexico and China is still scary. Hopefully this development with the EU is a glimmer of light and Trump will start listening more to people like Larry Kudlow and Steven Moore, and ignore flakes like Navarro and Bannon. Originally Posted by Tiny
The agreement was to talk about putting things back like the were. Originally Posted by MT PocketsGood point, we don't know what the outcome of the talks will be. Trump is an enigma. It's possible he'll negotiate a world with lower tariffs, where the Chinese don't take advantage of us. Or it's possible he'll really muck things up. I'm afraid it's the later. He does posture to try to get an advantage, like he did with North Korea. He does change his mind, either because it's to his political advantage or because he believes he was wrong. On trade though, he appears to really believe what he says. Last week he tweeted "Tariffs are the greatest!" That's not a good sign.
Is someone posting on a hooker board that they have some knowledge of what is going on in Trump's mind while at the same time calling him an "enigma"?Its amazing when you here how some of the better educated people, act like their ready to sell the farm, Hey we lived though 8 years with Obama leading from behind, its nice to see someone who wants to lead
I suppose for some U.S. citizens aka taxpayers it's a challenging decision on whether to subsidies U.S. farmers in order to beat down the Europeans or pay Afghan farmers not to grow poppies. What a tough choice! Originally Posted by LexusLover
Same place the last 18 trillion came from - we created it.
Trump was successful with these negotiations and hopefully this will make trade a little more fair and stimulate economic growth. Originally Posted by friendly fred