GFE OR PSE WHICH DO YOU PREFER?

It's a hard question because we all have a different opinion on the terms, I like my sessions leading from sensual to erotic ending with more sensual

I don't look at the 2 terms GFE, PSE. I look to see if the gal is into kissing and IOP. Anyone can fake GFE & PSE, it's part of the business of selling the guy what he wants.

It's obvious when a gal is into it by the way she interacts with you., The way she touches, kisses, talks, the close contact, you know even though it is play for pay if she digs you and you dig her. There are gals on here who are known for their robotic sessions. We've all been with providers who were dead fucks and feel like necrophiliacs when done. However, there are times these gals want the real thing and become a woman and not a provider during a session. I love when this happens. Sometimes they forget how to be a woman BCD.

But then again, I've met many guys from here. I don't see how you girls do it. Many of us are icky trolls.

Well said Von

Got to agree if they're not a good kisser with an IOP I would just soon be at a rub and tug

I don't look at the 2 terms GFE, PSE. I look to see if the gal is into kissing and IOP. Anyone can fake GFE & PSE, it's part of the business of selling the guy what he wants.

It's obvious when a gal is into it by the way she interacts with you., The way she touches, kisses, talks, the close contact, you know even though it is play for pay if she digs you and you dig her. There are gals on here who are known for their robotic sessions. We've all been with providers who were dead fucks and feel like necrophiliacs when done. However, there are times these gals want the real thing and become a woman and not a provider during a session. I love when this happens. Sometimes they forget how to be a woman BCD.

But then again, I've met many guys from here. I don't see how you girls do it. Many of us are icky trolls. Originally Posted by Von Spieler

Great post, especially about the robotic sessions and dead fucks, as I have seen many of those BCD. Most of the guys may not be good to look at, that is why K-9 is most provider's favorite sex position, but the guys are the ones paying. As long as the guy is respectful and has excellent hygiene, in this like of work, that is what matters. It is all about how good her skills are, both BCD and being a mattress actress (IOP) which determines how much money she makes and how often her phone rings. And, since the guys is the one paying, his definition of GFE/PSE trumps the provider's each and every time, if they are different, if she accepts the appointment and takes his money. All the more better is if there is a connection that is genuine and true passion is involved.

GFE or PSE? It all depends upon what one's definition of the two terms are. In my sessions, I am looking for full blown experience with passion and intensity making me feel glad I am a man, so call that what you will. Those robotic sessions and the ladies who make it like you are fucking a corpse makes me feel like I am nothing but a wallet or business transaction and hence will not get a second call from me.

The ladies that do the magic of being a professional, yet personal in nature, treating their clients like they are the only one for the time they are there, from my experiences and consistent reviews I have read about them, I salute you for you skills and reward many with my money!

I don't look at the 2 terms GFE, PSE. I look to see if the gal is into kissing and IOP. Anyone can fake GFE & PSE, it's part of the business of selling the guy what he wants.

It's obvious when a gal is into it by the way she interacts with you., The way she touches, kisses, talks, the close contact, you know even though it is play for pay if she digs you and you dig her. There are gals on here who are known for their robotic sessions. We've all been with providers who were dead fucks and feel like necrophiliacs when done. However, there are times these gals want the real thing and become a woman and not a provider during a session. I love when this happens. Sometimes they forget how to be a woman BCD.

But then again, I've met many guys from here. I don't see how you girls do it. Many of us are icky trolls. Originally Posted by Von Spieler

sorry to be noobish but what is IOP?

Short for Illusion of passion

IOP & DFK is the way to go (I don't know what that falls under GFE,PSE)

Short for Illusion of passion Originally Posted by mdub

but why create illusion, why not just create the passion?

Never had PSE, so GFE by default. I have a feeling what I'd want to do as if I was with a 'porn star' most ladies would not be up for.

but why create illusion, why not just create the passion? Originally Posted by !VI!

Since you have to create passion, essentially, that is IOP.

The difference between a regular provider and an ATF type of provider is largely in part due to how well she creates that IOP to make it appear as if it is real. The bad thing is when you get the weirdos who think that the provider truly does like him and becomes her stalker, which is why many of the ladies do not even attempt to offer or ofttimes fail at providing IOP due to those type of possible ramifications.

but why create illusion, why not just create the passion? Originally Posted by !VI!

Most girls are just acting. Guys get upset when they find out the cute 20-something doesn't really want him for more than his money. The term IOP helps all concerned to remember this is, first and foremost, a business transaction.

Most girls are just acting. Guys get upset when they find out the cute 20-something doesn't really want him for more than his money. The term IOP helps all concerned to remember this is, first and foremost, a business transaction. Originally Posted by TinMan

.... i guess you are right

sometimes i just wonder you know, because it's sex, it's always going to be more then just buisness

.... i guess you are right

sometimes i just wonder you know, because it's sex, it's always going to be more then just buisness Originally Posted by !VI!

It is more than just a business transaction because sex is very personal. But at the end of the day, most normal guys in the hobby know that the provider would probably not give him the time of day UNLESS he had the donation, much less any BCD activities.

Von nailed it.