Pay or NOT to pay upfront? Your opinions please.

I've never had anyone ask for the donation. I always put the gift on the closest desk when she arrives/I arrive.

I've only had one lady count it in front me. Originally Posted by Jasser

I think that's really tacky. Most of the ladies I know (self included) count the donation to make sure they aren't getting stiffed, but never in front of the client! Since its only happened once to you, that tells me that most ladies know better.

I leave the "donation" in an unsealed envelope and put it on the counter or table before BCD activities begin that way we both know it is there, she does not touch it until after I leave and if you short the lady their requested "donation", good luck getting other providers to see you, you have been blacklisted. You have to wait to newbies come in that are ignorant of reference checking. Originally Posted by bigdog0311

I co sign with this, but sometimes I forget the envelope, LOL

I think that's really tacky. Most of the ladies I know (self included) count the donation to make sure they aren't getting stiffed, but never in front of the client! Since its only happened once to you, that tells me that most ladies know better. Originally Posted by Nina Rae

I agree, but honestly, with douchebags out there, like the unkown douche that stiffed Domino, I can't really blame a lady for making sure that there is actually anything in the envelope and it's the correct amount.

It was only once though and she was the one to pop my hobby cherry. I can still remember it like it were yesterday.

lady - "hi, are you sure you're xxxxxxx"?
me - Yep, it's me that called
Lady - "are you a cop"
me - "uh, no"
lady - "touch me"
me - "right on"
lady - "you have my money"
me - yep, it's right there on the bar"
lady - counting the money..."yep, you're good. Ok, you dont look like most clients..how old are you"
me - "I'm 25 and if you're uncomfortable, we don't have to go through with it"
lady - "no, you're cool. Ok, because of a bad experience, we can only do this standing up. I won't get on a bed because someone pinned me down before.
me - (thinking in my head) fuck, it will take me forever standing up.

lol..sorry for the derail...good times.

The fear of touching the cash is as ludicrous as the fairy tale that you can ask a cop 3 times if they are a cop.

IF a cop has made it through your screening and is in your room, it won't matter if you touch or count the cash, you will be cited and busted.

There are so many stories of girls getting ripped off because a client has stuffed an envelope filled with singles or even slips of paper that the girl didn't check before services were rendered.

I saw a new girl recently that was working with another escort I had already seen and knew pretty well. Without her asking, I took the donation and spread it out where she could see the cash and see the amount without touching it or even having to mention a thing about it. Nary a word was said about that but she knew the cash was all there.

IF a client is going to do you wrong, whether short you ar steal it back, screening is the only way to keep track of the guy.

Poor screening leads to getting shorted and ripped off and robbed.

Not whether the cash is paid before or after.

And that goes for the guys screening the providers before they get to the door of the incall or letting her get to your place.

I think that's really tacky. Most of the ladies I know (self included) count the donation to make sure they aren't getting stiffed, but never in front of the client! Since its only happened once to you, that tells me that most ladies know better. Originally Posted by Nina Rae

Yes, it's becoming increasingly important to count the fee before the fun begins because of estblished, "reputable" gents leaving the incorrect amount in the envelope. I personally think it's best to leave the fee on the bathroom countertop when the guest arrives. That way, after it's established the amount is correct and the bills aren't counterfeit, the provider can return and strip..and the fun begin.

I went and saw Yoko one winter afternoon. Had the envelope in my jacket pocket. Got to her place (had seen her several times before) she gave me a nice kiss and took my jacket off and placed it on the back of her couch. Had a WONDERFUL time, we came down stairs laughing and talking about all sorts of things and she puts my jacket back on......I leave and a half hour later I notice the envelope is still in the side pocket...DAMN IT. Dialed her real quick and lucky for me she answered right away. I drove back over to her place and gave her the envelope, plus a 50% tip (sort of a fine to myself for being stupid) anyway, she was super gracious and understanding. We sometimes say "Forgot it was a service." Well this time I really did.
Never had a problem with well reviewed ladies on here or ASPD. I also just wanted to be under Sweet Heather for the view.

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With most BP girls you can tell if they're hustlers when you get there. Leave if you detect that.

If a girl demands you pay up front, simply watch where she puts it (most of the time it is in a drawer, or pants pocket, or purse. Only a few times have they put it in another room on me.

Then if the session rules or services all of a sudden change before any BCD takes place, take it back before she can get to it.

I usually leave the fee in plain sight where she knows where it is, and so do I. If we agreed to FS and she's on her period all of a sudden I'll take it and leave (before any activities occur).

I leave the "donation" in an unsealed envelope and put it on the counter or table before BCD activities begin that way we both know it is there, she does not touch it until after I leave and if you short the lady their requested "donation", good luck getting other providers to see you, you have been blacklisted. You have to wait to newbies come in that are ignorant of reference checking. Originally Posted by bigdog0311

Pretty much same as what I do, except I never use an envelope. I visited with three new providers at the beginning of the year but I pretty much visit the same girls all of the time. So, no surprises there.
OP did start out with a huge post and I'm still waiting to see what kind shitstorm it gathers.
Happy hobbying.

Show the money up front if they insist, but never pay up front unless you're ready to leave without services. Plenty of lasses will take the money and run or take the money up front and torture you for more (upsell their asses off) and kill the entire experience for you or worse.

It's business. Pay up front. I usually visit the wash room to clean up a bit and place the envelope on the counter or vanity. She can then come in and verify it's there, count it, whatever.

If its my first time with a lady, I leave it on the table and tell her if she's not comfortable for any reason shes earned it and I'll just leave. if you can't trust each other there won't be any more visits. she's either building a business with people she can trust or not.

It's business. Pay up front. I usually visit the wash room to clean up a bit and place the envelope on the counter or vanity. She can then come in and verify it's there, count it, whatever. Originally Posted by Gonzo DFW

Exactly! If you're seeing a reputable lady, she's less likely to just all of a sudden decide to grab and dash. I mean...who does that? But if you do it this way, you have a second to freshen up, and she can simply go in after you, do her accounting, and come out ready to get the ball(s) rolling!